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Billboard to Reveal Apple Music Plans?
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Album cover art....video film camera...
I agree. But don't worry:
A: Artistic recording artists will always want some sort of visual art to go with their music because they're...artistic.
B: Prefab bands will have pictures of their beautifullness because...well, because they have no talent.
Maybe with online sales you can have age-specific uncensored album art! Assuming you want 5,000 pictures of Christina Aguilara's naked *** and crotch with every song she releases...given current trends.....and god forbid Tommy Lee come out with a new album.... ***shudder***
ewwwwww....
"GET! GET! GET NAKED!"
I agree. But don't worry:
A: Artistic recording artists will always want some sort of visual art to go with their music because they're...artistic.
B: Prefab bands will have pictures of their beautifullness because...well, because they have no talent.
Maybe with online sales you can have age-specific uncensored album art! Assuming you want 5,000 pictures of Christina Aguilara's naked *** and crotch with every song she releases...given current trends.....and god forbid Tommy Lee come out with a new album.... ***shudder***
ewwwwww....
"GET! GET! GET NAKED!"
Official Boots
I just realised how well this system could work for live material.
I think often the cost to the labels to put out a live album is too high, but how cool would it be if they would release a live track or two for certain artists.
It could even be used to support the artist's tour.
Also, B-sides. Ever since the death of the "single" release there has been less and less B-side material out there (with some notable exceptions of course) This type of service would be a great place to showcase an artist's B-sides, live tracks, alt-takes, and other flotsom and jetsom that the consumer can't easily get anymore.
But somehow I doubt the service will support this kind of thing, at least at first.
I wonder what the service is going to be called, so I can stop calling it "the service"
I just realised how well this system could work for live material.
I think often the cost to the labels to put out a live album is too high, but how cool would it be if they would release a live track or two for certain artists.
It could even be used to support the artist's tour.
Also, B-sides. Ever since the death of the "single" release there has been less and less B-side material out there (with some notable exceptions of course) This type of service would be a great place to showcase an artist's B-sides, live tracks, alt-takes, and other flotsom and jetsom that the consumer can't easily get anymore.
But somehow I doubt the service will support this kind of thing, at least at first.
I wonder what the service is going to be called, so I can stop calling it "the service"
Totally agree... Apple (I'm sure) will find some way to add a bonus for .mac members. (disclaimer I am a .mac member). Heck they could do quite a few things for .mac members.
- Free tracks every now and again
- .mac 1st tracks (for new stuff)
- Free streaming (too costly I'd think - but who knows)
..it's 2am here so forgive me for not thinking up more ideas..
But sure Apple will no doubt throw a bone to .mac users.Dave
Paying
Ok this is my first post so don't flame me if i did something wrong or whatever
Seriously, my question is about the paying aspect of this music service. It might be alright for all you peeps with credit cards but what about the poor students who arn't old enough or arn't allowed to use mummy and daddies plastic?
I think this service is targeting the kids who get on their computer and just download songs. Its mainly this demographic who do it because one they don't have money and its so dam easy!
Ok, answer me this: I'm not that familiar with how this service thingy could work but do all u peeps just assume that credit is the way to pay? Please clarify for me
Ok this is my first post so don't flame me if i did something wrong or whatever
Seriously, my question is about the paying aspect of this music service. It might be alright for all you peeps with credit cards but what about the poor students who arn't old enough or arn't allowed to use mummy and daddies plastic?
I think this service is targeting the kids who get on their computer and just download songs. Its mainly this demographic who do it because one they don't have money and its so dam easy!
Ok, answer me this: I'm not that familiar with how this service thingy could work but do all u peeps just assume that credit is the way to pay? Please clarify for me
Paying
Ok this is my first post so don't flame me if i did something wrong or whatever
Seriously, my question is about the paying aspect of this music service. It might be alright for all you peeps with credit cards but what about the poor students who arn't old enough or arn't allowed to use mummy and daddies plastic?
I think this service is targeting the kids who get on their computer and just download songs. Its mainly this demographic who do it because one they don't have money and its so dam easy!
Ok, answer me this: I'm not that familiar with how this service thingy could work but do all u peeps just assume that credit is the way to pay? Please clarify for me
Ok this is my first post so don't flame me if i did something wrong or whatever
Seriously, my question is about the paying aspect of this music service. It might be alright for all you peeps with credit cards but what about the poor students who arn't old enough or arn't allowed to use mummy and daddies plastic?
I think this service is targeting the kids who get on their computer and just download songs. Its mainly this demographic who do it because one they don't have money and its so dam easy!
Ok, answer me this: I'm not that familiar with how this service thingy could work but do all u peeps just assume that credit is the way to pay? Please clarify for me
Re: Paying
Flame flame! Wait till monday and see for yourself.
Originally posted by unage85
Ok this is my first post so don't flame me if i did something wrong or whatever
Seriously, my question is about the paying aspect of this music service. It might be alright for all you peeps with credit cards but what about the poor students who arn't old enough or arn't allowed to use mummy and daddies plastic?
I think this service is targeting the kids who get on their computer and just download songs. Its mainly this demographic who do it because one they don't have money and its so dam easy!
Ok, answer me this: I'm not that familiar with how this service thingy could work but do all u peeps just assume that credit is the way to pay? Please clarify for me
Flame flame! Wait till monday and see for yourself.
I'm with sXe. Where is everyone getting the idea that a new music service will be announced? I think they'll be announcing a mouse/headphones combo.
Yes! The rotary wheel is actually volume control. Now why didn't I think of that first?
Next thing you know people are gonna start talking about Apple partnering up with IBM for their processors. HA! Apple and IBM, talk about your odd couples...
Next thing you know people are gonna start talking about Apple partnering up with IBM for their processors. HA! Apple and IBM, talk about your odd couples...
IF Apple has a music service (my bet is yes) I'm thinking 128/160 kbps AAC audio with DRM which wouldn't yet be enabled outside of iTunes 4 (prevents ripping AAC CDs onto another mac, but not playing, that kind of thing).
I'm a strong believer that Apple will be using at least 2 kinds of services in AppleTracks. I'm not sure how yet, but it seems to me that it's likely that there would be a few kinds of music you could get. I was brain storming this, so here goes:
1) For pay music. $1/song, $10/CD. Tracks how many songs per CD you have, offers you that much off upgrading to the whole CD (for example you buy 3 tracks on a 15 track CD, then you can get the other 13 tracks for only $7)
2) Low-pay songs. Songs that are on CDs in stores, but for whatever reason are less money, like smaller publishing labels, artists that have cool contracts and like apple, songs that suck, etc.
3) Free music. Perhaps either streaming on demand of music (Apple-branded internet radio with lots of main stream stuff, per-song on demand. Cool idea i think). Free songs thanks to artists (promo track to buy a whole AppleTracks CD online).
The other idea for this would be a garage band, underground band, unsigned band etc signs a deal with Apple. For hosting fees (say $100/month maybe) Apple will host your music on this service. The artist could set a price and try to pedal their music via iTunes for pay music. Then Apple would track the popular unheard of music and make it easier for everyone to find it (since we all know that there's a lot of crappy music out there).
Another idea I had, would you be opposed to Apple putting in ad banners on part of the music system? I mean think about it for a while. Sherlock had ads as I recall. Apple was cool though, they put in their own ads too, and they never allowed flashy "click the money and win $100" crap. To me if I could have $0.75/song instead of $1/song i might do it.
To answer the previous question, AAC Audio is amazing. At 128 kbps (less than the iTunes default) you get music which sounds better than a CD on iTunes (how can this be? well iTunes isn't a $3000 Denon CD player with dual super linear processors and 24/192khz Burr Brown... sorry audiophile rant) I also like that at 128kbps Apple can change the iPod from 1000/2000/4000 songs in your pocket to 1250/3000/6000 (or whatever, im not doing the math for you people). Now if they go to 30/40gb they might be able to make some fun claims like 10,000 songs in your pocket, which to be honest with you, is a lot more than i have. well 1pm EST tomorrow we'll all know.
I'm a strong believer that Apple will be using at least 2 kinds of services in AppleTracks. I'm not sure how yet, but it seems to me that it's likely that there would be a few kinds of music you could get. I was brain storming this, so here goes:
1) For pay music. $1/song, $10/CD. Tracks how many songs per CD you have, offers you that much off upgrading to the whole CD (for example you buy 3 tracks on a 15 track CD, then you can get the other 13 tracks for only $7)
2) Low-pay songs. Songs that are on CDs in stores, but for whatever reason are less money, like smaller publishing labels, artists that have cool contracts and like apple, songs that suck, etc.
3) Free music. Perhaps either streaming on demand of music (Apple-branded internet radio with lots of main stream stuff, per-song on demand. Cool idea i think). Free songs thanks to artists (promo track to buy a whole AppleTracks CD online).
The other idea for this would be a garage band, underground band, unsigned band etc signs a deal with Apple. For hosting fees (say $100/month maybe) Apple will host your music on this service. The artist could set a price and try to pedal their music via iTunes for pay music. Then Apple would track the popular unheard of music and make it easier for everyone to find it (since we all know that there's a lot of crappy music out there).
Another idea I had, would you be opposed to Apple putting in ad banners on part of the music system? I mean think about it for a while. Sherlock had ads as I recall. Apple was cool though, they put in their own ads too, and they never allowed flashy "click the money and win $100" crap. To me if I could have $0.75/song instead of $1/song i might do it.
To answer the previous question, AAC Audio is amazing. At 128 kbps (less than the iTunes default) you get music which sounds better than a CD on iTunes (how can this be? well iTunes isn't a $3000 Denon CD player with dual super linear processors and 24/192khz Burr Brown... sorry audiophile rant) I also like that at 128kbps Apple can change the iPod from 1000/2000/4000 songs in your pocket to 1250/3000/6000 (or whatever, im not doing the math for you people). Now if they go to 30/40gb they might be able to make some fun claims like 10,000 songs in your pocket, which to be honest with you, is a lot more than i have. well 1pm EST tomorrow we'll all know.
I forgot. My ideas on paying. I think it'll use .mac and 1-click as the preferred service. But i also think it's likely that apple lets you set up something for people my age, almost able to get a credit card. Perhaps they'll make a deal with Visa Buxx people (credit card for kids pretty much). That or the parents could set up a system with Apple which limits kids to $20/month in music, that kind of thing. I can't think of any way that under-18 people can get music online, then again, a lot of 15 year olds can use amazon.com so it'll probably work one way or another.
Who thinks the next iPod will include external hardware support, like a bluetooth headphone, iPod to iPod sharing of non-roalty music and or files, CD-RW support, etc? I'd like to burn a CD off my iPod. Ok i dont have an iPod. you know what i mean, go to a friend's house, plug into their external player. That or a mic, i'd like a mic. or a keyboard. ok now im ranting. shut up nick. will do.
Who thinks the next iPod will include external hardware support, like a bluetooth headphone, iPod to iPod sharing of non-roalty music and or files, CD-RW support, etc? I'd like to burn a CD off my iPod. Ok i dont have an iPod. you know what i mean, go to a friend's house, plug into their external player. That or a mic, i'd like a mic. or a keyboard. ok now im ranting. shut up nick. will do.
Scroll Wheel Volume Control
Actually, thinking of it seriously, it would be nice to have more volume control. With some of the preset levels out there, I have the choice between mute and loud.
I miss the analog control I had with my old monitor (not that I miss my old 6360).
Now that this possibility has been broached, a more analog-style control like this would be useful for way more than scrolling. Think monitor controls, speed, transparency...uh...blending options...filters...........OK, help, I'm out of ideas....I bet all you videoheads can help me out here.
I bet alternator keys would all of a sudden become a blessing if they related to a bunch of wheel commands. Hmmm...damn those wily weasels at Apple.
Hey! DJ Scratching!
Edit: This isn't the new mouse forum! WTF -- how did this start anyway?
Actually, thinking of it seriously, it would be nice to have more volume control. With some of the preset levels out there, I have the choice between mute and loud.
I miss the analog control I had with my old monitor (not that I miss my old 6360).
Now that this possibility has been broached, a more analog-style control like this would be useful for way more than scrolling. Think monitor controls, speed, transparency...uh...blending options...filters...........OK, help, I'm out of ideas....I bet all you videoheads can help me out here.
I bet alternator keys would all of a sudden become a blessing if they related to a bunch of wheel commands. Hmmm...damn those wily weasels at Apple.
Hey! DJ Scratching!
Edit: This isn't the new mouse forum! WTF -- how did this start anyway?
My 2¢
About the CD art...
In case Apple doesn't do it; get Konfabulator and use the "Album Cover" Widget... does a great job.
About Credit Card payment...
There's hundreds of millions of credit cards out there. Sounds like a good plan. If a kid wants various songs, what's stopping him from using his allowance to pay his parents and have them download the songs he wants on their plastic? That's how I would do it in that situation.
About the CD art...
In case Apple doesn't do it; get Konfabulator and use the "Album Cover" Widget... does a great job.
About Credit Card payment...
There's hundreds of millions of credit cards out there. Sounds like a good plan. If a kid wants various songs, what's stopping him from using his allowance to pay his parents and have them download the songs he wants on their plastic? That's how I would do it in that situation.
You'd be suprised how few times parents like to take cash for access to their credit. The hassle I suppose?
Originally posted by Flowbee
I'm with sXe. Where is everyone getting the idea that a new music service will be announced? I think they'll be announcing a mouse/headphones combo.
"our source was the new york times"
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/28/technology/28APPL.html
ps. amon tobin rocks away
My theory on this is that kids can be set up with a debit account. Pre-set spending limit, one-time (per balance) charge, small hassle -- especially with "one-click" buying tied into it...like "Click!" there's $20 bucks to your account kiddo. Don't spend it all on the Beatles again.