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Bitcoin Scam App Approved by Apple Robs iPhone User of $600,000+

iAlexandre said:
I’m sorry but no. Apple promotes security on its AppStore all the time yet allows fake apps like this one or apps that charge 69,99 after a free trial for an app that does nothing

This is Apple’s fault. They have created this false sense of security for the consumer.

They have to deliver, and on this they didn’t.

What your saying is if someone created an app that looks like my Bank and I entered my credentials it would be my fault? Nonsense.
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No!
Not Apple's fault at all, not even close!
Apple is not to blame because some guy was dumb enough not to do basic checks when involving huge sums of money.
Just lie a car dealership is not to blame if you hand over $20,000 for a car to some random person because you though they were the car dealer as they were wearing similar clothes!
 
shplock said:
No!
Difference between a company being negligent and a genuine error occurring.
Apple can not be blamed for someone being smart and unfortunately a criminal as well can they?
Just like a car maker can not be blamed if you locked your car up and the thief managed to still steal it, as long as reasonable measures were taken to protect it.
I believe that Apple take more than reasonable measures to secure the App Store and if someone manages to outsmart them, then that is not Apple's fault.
Hopefully Apple will close that loophole to make it harder in future.
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You are right, but I understand an App Review System as that the team will check the code, check the functioning, and authenticity. Checking would have made it clear that this is a malicious app. I could be wrong here about the checking process, so apologies.
 
rjp1 said:
Even today as you start to type Trez into the App Store search it starts to show auto complete for Trezor and "Trezor wallet". I think this is a big part of the problem. I think people assume their search is going to show legitimate apps in auto complete. It isn't crazy to think someone would just pick the top thing after using autocomplete and installing it. Then, boom surprise it is a fake app.
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Only if you do not understand how auto correct works and do not bother to do any actual learning for yourself.
 
Quu said:
Seems like Apple owes this man $600,000 to me. They have given us a false sense of security when it comes to the safety of apps on their store. It's one of the reasons so many of us are willing to accept the walled garden approach and the higher prices that Apples 30% revenue cut often results in.

So if they don't back their customers like this man who lost big because they didn't do their job properly then they should open the platform to competing stores and sideloading. That's my opinion anyway.
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Seems like Apple owes nothing!
A scammer outsmarted the system which is not Apple's fault the they take very reasonable measures.
If they took none or lax then you have a post but they did not and you have none.
 
shplock said:
It is the correct argument.
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It is in its own right and might, no doubt. But in this context where I am talking about failure of App Store team to properly check an app before release, that argument is not relevant but escapist.

It looks like Apple is quicker to catch code that fleeces them of their revenue than catching code and functionality that pretends to be something else. The consumer can be the most stupid person on the planet, but they will claim that Apple let the malicious app through while touting security and safety and vetting of apps, so they are to share the blame.

Again, I could be wrong about this, but I would think Apple needs to take their share of the blame. We as consumers are just too kind to them and too hard on our own selves. Even when Apple has just been proven deficient in their own vetting, we still want to keep the blame with us. Apple is lucky to have always enjoyed such evangelist consumers.
 
robjulo said:
Nonsense. Apple is partly to blame. They took on the duty of providing and charging developers for an App store and forcing customers to use that App store. They have a duty to make sure the Apps aren't fraudulent. The guy is also a dope, but Apple's hands are not clean.
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Nonsense, not Apple's fault at all.
Just as it is not the police's fault they took every step they could to catch that criminal who raided your house because you were dumb enough to leave your house door unlocked.
 
Zito Abroad said:
And this is what happens when gulp the kool-aid. You give 100% trust in the walled garden, totally believe the premium Apple charges really is for things like keeping you safe from scams and other security threats. Blind followers are their own worst enemy.
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This comment happens when you drink the Apple is evil poison and think that they should be perfect and then attack them for not being.
 
Fowl said:
In the US, at least, liability is shifted away from the final consumer. If you go into an empty lot and break your leg, you can sue the property owner. If a kid eats cat litter, it's the manufacturer's liability for not marking it inedible. A lot of people hate this, but if we're going to be consistent, it sure seems like Apple should be liable for something they had every opportunity for checking before approving it.
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No.
Just because the US chooses to sue anything that moves or oe snot move does not mean Apple is to blame.
 
End that crypto crap and people won’t waste so much arguments and computing energy. Life is short, the world could be very beautiful without dirty pollution and international criming cartels and scams.
 
Eso said:
This is actually fantastic news; this individual is going to double or triple their investment! Apple is about to make his argument for him about how they are liable. They are about to argue in one of the most prominent cases in the country why they are justified in being the sole distributor of iOS apps. They claim it is the only way to ensure a supply of safe and trusted software for users.

If that isn't true, then their argument against Epic games is defeated. If it is true, then they are liable when a user is provided an unsafe app from the app store.
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No, not even close.
 
jonnyb098 said:
The last time I checked you can buy food with dollars. Not crypto. So what the hell are you even talking about? The fact there are so many types of crypto prove how meaningless it is unless it’s accepted everywhere on earth. Which it isn’t.

Does your paycheck come in ether or dogecoin?
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I can buy many many things with Bitcoin actually!
I can also buy a Tesla if I wanted.
 
shplock said:
Seems like Apple owes nothing!
A scammer outsmarted the system which is not Apple's fault the they take very reasonable measures.
If they took none or lax then you have a post but they did not and you have none.
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You would be screaming blue murder if someone outsmarted the system with the result being you lost everything. It's very easy to sit in the comfort of you own dwelling smarting at the fault of others isn't it. Wait till the same happens to you and others react in the same way, you won't be feeling very smart then will you.
 
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