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Apparently YouTube thinks "death" is a naughty word. I just tried to post a comment that included the phrase, "unless you want someone's grave injury or death on your hands" and the comment posts and is visible . . . until I switch accounts, then it's invisible. I had to change "death" to "d|eath" to get it to post and be publicly visible.

I swear some of these companies have lost their minds.
 
Apparently YouTube thinks "death" is a naughty word. I just tried to post a comment that included the phrase, "unless you want someone's grave injury or death on your hands" and the comment posts and is visible . . . until I switch accounts, then it's invisible. I had to change "death" to "d|eath" to get it to post and be publicly visible.

I swear some of these companies have lost their minds.
If I had to guess, it might have to do with this setting.

Also, there's this.
 
If I had to guess, it might have to do with this setting.

Also, there's this.

Possibly, though if that's what's going on here, the implementation is very bizarre. If the comment is "flagged", then it should let the poster know that it will be reviewed before being posted instead of letting them think that it immediately posted. Even better, it should give them an opportunity to edit and resubmit the comment.

Oh, and on the same video I was commenting on when this happened, other comments appeared with completely uncensored profanity (and I'm not talking about the milder "swear" words), so that makes it all the more bizarre.
 
Youtube and FB sure seem to have gotten rather stupid with their TOS 'no-no' words and statements.
 
Had the same problems in the past, this isn't the channel's fault, blame on Google's idiocy which puts an automated system that is incapable of telling if your comment warrants removal or not, with no context or any sense, but does the removal anyway.

Youtube has been dead for many years, and this is only the tip of the iceberg among the myriad of reasons for not using them.

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Had the same problems in the past, this isn't the channel's fault, blame on Google's idiocy which puts an automated system that is incapable of telling if your comment warrants removal or not, with no context or any sense, but does the removal anyway.

Youtube has been dead for many years, and this is only the tip of the iceberg among the myriad of reasons for not using them.

As I said before, even if they want to keep the current broken filter in place, it would be 10x better if it simply informed the user the comment was "inappropriate" once you hit post/reply so you can edit and resubmit it until it's "appropriate". That way you don't have to double check every comment you post with another browser that's signed out of your account to see if it really posted. That's really fun when you reply to threads that are hundreds of posts long and you have to click "Show more replies" 20 times to get down to where your comment should be 🙄
 
I don't expect any transparency from a company that mines everyone's data and shadowbans at random...

If I ban someone from my channel that person still thinks her comments are being read by anyone. When in fact only her is seeing the content, so is fooled into thinking it's seen by anyone. She would need to log out or use another account to check if it's still there!

If you are not familiar with the term, this is what it means:

"Banning a user from a web forum in such a way that the banned user is unaware of the ban. Usually takes the form of showing that user's posts/profile/etc. only to that user; other users never see them."

Google, META (Instagram...) everyone uses it.

The irony is that technology seems to have evolved but we always forget if it was created by us, it can be INFERIOR. Not the other way around.

Computers cannot differentiate the context from what has been said, we need human intervention for that, even if the judgement is flawed. But hey, let's poison the entire community by banning some words as if they were a threat by themselves, and worse, let's not warn anyone this is being done... 🤣

Word banning for me is based on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

A similar approach is done with countless videos which are demonetized or banned/the uploader punished even if they don't willingly or blatantly infringe anything. Most of the time all these actions are done by a computer, not a button pushed by some employee, targeting A or B.
 
I don't expect any transparency from a company that mines everyone's data and shadowbans at random...

If I ban someone from my channel that person still thinks her comments are being read by anyone. When in fact only her is seeing the content, so is fooled into thinking it's seen by anyone. She would need to log out or use another account to check if it's still there!

If you are not familiar with the term, this is what it means:

"Banning a user from a web forum in such a way that the banned user is unaware of the ban. Usually takes the form of showing that user's posts/profile/etc. only to that user; other users never see them."

Google, META (Instagram...) everyone uses it.

The irony is that technology seems to have evolved but we always forget if it was created by us, it can be INFERIOR. Not the other way around.

Computers cannot differentiate the context from what has been said, we need human intervention for that, even if the judgement is flawed. But hey, let's poison the entire community by banning some words as if they were a threat by themselves, and worse, let's not warn anyone this is being done... 🤣

Word banning for me is based on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

A similar approach is done with countless videos which are demonetized or banned/the uploader punished even if they don't willingly or blatantly infringe anything. Most of the time all these actions are done by a computer, not a button pushed by some employee, targeting A or B.

I understand the concept of shadow banning, but that's a separate topic from my complaint here. The strange thing is, I know for a fact that I've gotten pop-ups from YouTube before warning that the comment I'm about to post may violate their TOS and prompting me to edit the comment to ensure it's "polite" (or something like that) to avoid a possible TOS strike. So if they weren't transparent, then why do they do that at all? But that's not for the mysterious trigger words (like "death"), but more if you calls someone an a|hole or something like that. Even the trigger word censorship isn't consistent. I've had conversations with people where all comments are posting publicly, then all of a sudden one won't until I delete a word from it I just used in multiple previous comments. Crazy!
 
Even the trigger word censorship isn't consistent
Just speculating - it could be some "clever" AI-ish text matching algorithm at work rather than simple trigger word censorship: something like Latent Semantic Analysis (not saying it is that specific technique - just giving the general flavour). In that case it would be the combination and frequency of particular words in your entire post giving it a fingerprint close enough to a troll to trigger a rejection. Likewise for some other sort of machine learning trained up on examples of troll posts - it's all about generating some sort of (highly reductive) number describing your text and comparing it to known offenders.

Looking at your original example, a human reading it can easily see that you're making a non-threatening analogy, but if you cut it up into individual words and find a glue stick you'd have the perfect kit for making a rather nasty "poison pen" death threat letter. Some language recognition techniques - used lazily - wouldn't be able to distinguish the two texts.

Changing one word might tip the balance - but it wouldn't be consistent - like many AI/ML techniques there'd be no real algorithm to second guess, just a parameter table generated by training.

A sensible use of such a technique would be for "triage" - set it to be fairly sensitive and use it to flag a manageable number of posts for human review.... but, of course, that would mean not only paying humans, but paying them enough and treating them well enough to give a wet slap about doing their job properly.

Or, you could just be seeing the output from from a tired, bored, underpaid and demoralised human being.
 
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I'd like to know what kind of racket YouTube is running if they are...

I've been working on learning the Unreal Engine, and I watched
part of the Quixel Mixer for Dummies Complete Beginners Guide to Quixel Mixer, I place a comment that the video was out of date (which it is). The stuff the video showed is not the stuff, you see when you try to follow along getting started.

So I went to the Mixer online manual and it cleared everything up that was wrong with the video and which made it very apparent the video is out of date.

So I made a comment saying, "The video is out of date as far as how Quixel Mixer works today for setup. This is not a suggestion to not watch this, but it would help to cross reference with the Mixer online manual to avoid confusion for anyone new to this."

I went back 20 minutes later and apparently (I'll assume) the author of the video removed the comment, without comment, just whoosh. I then gave the video a dislike and put on another comment that the author apparently does not like anyone being advised that his tutorial is out of date. I'm sure he'll remove that too, but if you are not harassing him, it seems to me that YouTube is doing a disservice to people watching videos there if the author of the video can remove any comment he does not like... comments are made to benefit other viewers, at least in my mind, if that is indeed what happened (the author removed it). 🤫
 
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I'd like to know what kind of racket YouTube is running if they are...

I've been working on learning the Unreal Engine, and I watched
part of the Quixel Mixer for Dummies Complete Beginners Guide to Quixel Mixer, I place a comment that the video was out of date (which it is). The stuff the video showed is not the stuff, you see when you try to follow along getting started.

So I went to the Mixer online manual and it cleared everything up that was wrong with the video and which made it very apparent the video is out of date.

So I made a comment saying, "The video is out of date as far as how Quixel Mixer works today for setup. This is not a suggestion to not watch this, but it would help to cross reference with the Mixer online manual to avoid confusion for anyone new to this."

I went back 20 minutes later and apparently (I'll assume) the author of the video removed the comment, without comment, just whoosh. I then gave the video a dislike and put on another comment that the author apparently does not like anyone being advised that his tutorial is out of date. I'm sure he'll remove that too, but if you are not harassing him, it seems to me that YouTube is doing a disservice to people watching videos there if the author of the video can remove any comment he does not like... comments are made to benefit other viewers, at least in my mind, if that is indeed what happened (the author removed it). 🤫
We live in an age where the greatest epidemic are kids stuck in adult bodies trying to act like "grown-ups" but failing miserably as did the author's actions. Sorry this happened but admittedly, not surprised.
 
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There are so many scammers in youtube comments it’s a joke. Auto mods don’t work on them for some reason.
 
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We live in an age where the greatest epidemic are kids stuck in adult bodies trying to act like "grown-ups" but failing miserably as did the author's actions. Sorry this happened but admittedly, not surprised.

I imagine the Google solution is to allow video producers to police the comments in their channel, instead of hire moderators, a full time job. But still for a how-to video to allow the creator to hide such a comment, and not address it, is a disservice to the consumers imo.

I looked for a way to communicate with a YouTube Customer service, and it produces a page of links but none of them provide a direct means to lodge a complaint or even communicate with them, and if this is their policy, they probably don’t care. There is a Community forum, but that seems like a waste of time, definietly not worth my time.

There are so many scammers in youtube comments it’s a joke. Auto mods don’t work on them for some reason.

In this case the person does not appear to be a scammer. It’s just that his video in some aspects is out of date. And he can remove any critique he does not like regardless if it is valid or not. In my case it was valid, and not critical, or confrontational, yet it was still gone. Better for his view rate to hide that. 🤔
 
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Ok, this is ridiculous. I was replying to someone on YouTube who was berating me and calling me "paranoid" for suggesting to err on the side of caution in a potentially life or death situation. I replied with the following:

People like you are the ones responsible for disasters that cost people's lives because you don't take potential issues seriously. Just a few weeks ago we had the 37th anniversary of the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster which cost the lives of 7 astronauts because NASA decision-makers discounted repeated warnings from engineers as being overly cautious, or, as you might label them, "paranoid."

YouTube is blocking this comment from public view. I can't even imagine why. I purposely used the phrase "cost people's lives" / "cost the lives" instead of "killed" since I figured that might trigger the stupid filters.

This is just plain insanity! There is nothing even remotely objectionable about that comment even if you try to take it out of context.
 
I see your problem OP. Expecting the internet to be a functional place for nuanced intelligent discussion. That's where you went wrong. Youtube comments section is somewhere between 4chan and Facebook in quality of thought. Save your effort for somewhere it has a chance of being worth your while to write. ...like, burned into a bit of hemp rope and set adrift on the sea. Or just talk to real humans in real life and get the quality human connections you desire, and realize that chatting on the web cannot possibly convey enough contextual cues between an unknowable number of participants from an unknowable number of backgrounds to make for an effective substitute. Internet people aren't real friends, or real people.
 
I see your problem OP. Expecting the internet to be a functional place for nuanced intelligent discussion. That's where you went wrong. Youtube comments section is somewhere between 4chan and Facebook in quality of thought. Save your effort for somewhere it has a chance of being worth your while to write. ...like, burned into a bit of hemp rope and set adrift on the sea. Or just talk to real humans in real life and get the quality human connections you desire, and realize that chatting on the web cannot possibly convey enough contextual cues between an unknowable number of participants from an unknowable number of backgrounds to make for an effective substitute. Internet people aren't real friends, or real people.

So you and I are fake humans? We're communicating on the Internet, are we not? And what you wrote has nothing to do with my comment. I'm not complaining about the quality of the discussion on YouTube, but rather the seemingly random content filters YouTube has in place that seem to be hiding comments like the one I posted, yet I see plenty of public comments with full-out, uncensored profanity get by.
 
So you and I are fake humans? We're communicating on the Internet, are we not?
Yes, the posts and the avatars in this thread including yours and mine are not actual human beings or even acting like human beings. What you and I have and continue to write is as low fidelity as conversations get, grossly incomplete, a mere fraction of what we would convey in this discussion were we actual humans speaking in person. Were this YouTube, it would have even less value as there is no pretense of quality in those discussions. The previous comment, as well as this, are in response to the underlying fundamental problem with your attempt to post and refine a nuanced argument in the terms you wrote. You are trying to formulate some manner of intellectual discussion utilizing allegory, but you are doing it in the YouTube comments section. YouTube, and the internet in general, is incapable of discerning such literary devices, and will simply continue to block and ban you over it, because it is not meant for that kind of discussion. Write like a schoolchild, write like monkey flinging poo at the wall. Asking moderators (automated or human) to grasp more than that will only end in frustration.
 
Yes, the posts and the avatars in this thread including yours and mine are not actual human beings or even acting like human beings. What you and I have and continue to write is as low fidelity as conversations get, grossly incomplete, a mere fraction of what we would convey in this discussion were we actual humans speaking in person. Were this YouTube, it would have even less value as there is no pretense of quality in those discussions. The previous comment, as well as this, are in response to the underlying fundamental problem with your attempt to post and refine a nuanced argument in the terms you wrote. You are trying to formulate some manner of intellectual discussion utilizing allegory, but you are doing it in the YouTube comments section. YouTube, and the internet in general, is incapable of discerning such literary devices, and will simply continue to block and ban you over it, because it is not meant for that kind of discussion. Write like a schoolchild, write like monkey flinging poo at the wall. Asking moderators (automated or human) to grasp more than that will only end in frustration.

Ok, so since you're not human (speak for yourself, btw), I will have no further "communication" with you. I'll continue to converse with the people here who are humans.
 
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