Black Macbook or Lenovo Thinkpad X300?

[Matek]

As someone already mentioned, the X300 and the MacBook are two totally different laptops and shouldn't be compared. Saying the MacBook has a faster processor then the ThinkPad is like saying a truck has a stronger engine than a car.

If you need a laptop you will always bring with you, that has to be light, small, have a long battery life - get the X300. But the dimensions and battery life obviousely come at the price of hardware performance. The MacBook can have a better CPU that needs more energy and gives away more heat, because it is big enough to handle it, etc.

So yeah, first you need to decide what kind of a laptop you need. If you need an ultraportable, you're choosing between MacBook Air and the Lenovo X200/X300. If you wan't a slightly bigger machine that can provide you with more power, you have to choose between the MacBook and a Thinkpad T400/T500.

I would suggest Lenovo, but again - this depends on your needs. The Thinkpads have better build quality than MacBooks and will also give you slightly more for your money. ATM one of the more important factors is also the fact ThinkPads include newer hardware (Lenovo already adopted the Montevina platform, Apple hasn't yet) MacBooks on the other hand, like people already told you, look better and are of course capable of running OS X, which is really the most important factor here.

If you want to use OS X, there is really no choice but to get a Mac, if you want to use Windows/Linux, get Lenovo instead.

Oh and by the way I find it funny how people are dissing Lenovo, saying it's "some chinese company". They bought their laptop department from IBM, ThinkPads are one of the most praised laptops out there. Some say their quality has gone down a bit since IBM sold the department, but they are still in the top without a doubt.

 

[Drumjim85]

I would suggest Lenovo, but again - this depends on your needs. The Thinkpads have better build quality than MacBooks and will also give you slightly more for your money.

but you also get an iPod and a printer if you buy a macbook... thats a good $400

-but good post!

 

[alphaod]

but you also get an iPod and a printer if you buy a macbook... thats a good $400

-but good post!

But a X300 also gets you a printer; if you use Visa, you can get another discount, EPP another, etc. These discounts add up fast.

 

[crazyyankeefan]

Last time I checked mate....the Macbooks are coming from China too

There's a difference between "assembled in china" and "company owned by china".

FYI, MacBooks are made by a Taiwanese company, which they just happen to have factories in china.

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

Does the black MacBook have a CD/DVD burner?

yea... it's a standard, not even something you can have/or not have. the white macbooks, the $1099 one doesnt have a dvd burner.

 

[crazyyankeefan]

I think the point you are making is valid. Lenovo is based in China where Apple is based in the USA. What trips some people out is that many Apple products are made in China. My iBook was manufactured in Taiwan but my mini mac was manufactured in China. One old mac I have was manufactured in the USA. I have even heard some macs have been manufactured in Ireland.

Another interesting note is that for every product of an American company made in China, a dollar goes into China's economy while three dollars, due to copyrights, trademarks, wholesale, middlemen, etc. usually goes to the country where the company is headquartered, such as the USA in this case.

Apple contract many of their product lines with a Taiwanese tech company. Years ago, this Taiwanese company still had factories in Taiwan. That's why Apple used to have Macs "made in Taiwan" (I have one of those iMac). Then the company moved their factories to china like everybody else (SONY, etc), which results the Apple products "assembled in china". However, there's a difference between "made in china" and "assembled in china". If "assembled in china", it means the products use "foreign parts".

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

Lenovo stinks in terms of pricing. The X300 has a tiny itty bitty SSD (you cant change to HD) which IMHO won't hold up in college with lots of papers and reports and software. The MacBook is more flexible, you sacrifice about 0.3 inch worth of space, but you get Boot Camp, superior OS, Apple's support, useful software, no viruses (imagine dealing with a virus when tmr there is a big project due), ease of use, and more ports. Oh yea, free ipod and printer.

And MacBooks have a better design, and is slim enough. The X300 is just 0.3 inch thinner, something that isnt worth over $1000. And you get bigger HD space, plus a MagSafe power adapter, which will automatically unplug itself if too much strain on the cord i.e. if your roommate trips over the power adapter.

 

[Matek]

Lenovo stinks in terms of pricing. The X300 has a tiny itty bitty SSD (you cant change to HD) which IMHO won't hold up in college with lots of papers and reports and software.

What part of their pricing is the stinky one exactly? The fact you can't change the hard drive for a regular one? I guess that's due to the fact it's a business solution laptop that comes with high-end hardware by default (just like you can't get a MacBook pro with integrated graphics). They also have a cheaper model with a regular drive available (X200) for people with different needs.

SSD drives are only starting to become popular and are not available in capacities that can match regular hard drives. The oh-so-terribly tiny itty bitty SSD drive is just as big as the SSD drive you get in MacBook Air.

The MacBook is more flexible, you sacrifice about 0.3 inch worth of space, but you get Boot Camp, superior OS, Apple's support, useful software, no viruses (imagine dealing with a virus when tmr there is a big project due), ease of use, and more ports. Oh yea, free ipod and printer.

I can perhaps agree with better OS and no viruses, but that's it.

• Boot camp? The ThinkPad can run Windows too.
• Apple's support? It is one of the better ones, yes, but Lenovo is close second.
• Useful software? That's a VERY bold statement - I suggest you give us some facts to support it. Windows, regardless of it's downsides, is a very popular OS and as a consequence there is a lot of good software available for it.
• More ports? You're comparing two very different laptops. X300 fits in the ultraportable category with the MacBook Air. And it has more ports than MBA. If you compare the MacBook to Lenovo's bigger, comparable series, you will see the number of ports is also quite comparable.
• Free iPod and printer? Like someone already mentioned - you can get similar discounts for the ThinkPad, also this is a temporary thing that won't be here in the long run.

You know what else you get with the MacBook? Hardware that's over a year old (Santa Rosa chipset) instead of Montevina that came out couple of weeks ago.

And MacBooks have a better design, and is slim enough. The X300 is just 0.3 inch thinner, something that isnt worth over $1000. And you get bigger HD space, plus a MagSafe power adapter, which will automatically unplug itself if too much strain on the cord i.e. if your roommate trips over the power adapter.

It's not up to you to decide whether it's slim enough - if that was a fact, we could simply eliminate a whole class of ultra portable laptops, not to mention the even smaller netbooks that are becoming terribly popular lately. And it's not just the thickness - you forgot to mention the MacBook is nearly twice the weight of X300.

I hope I didn't sound too hostile, but I felt you didn't have any convincing arguments in your post.

 

[crazyyankeefan]

What part of their pricing is the stinky one exactly? The fact you can't change the hard drive for a regular one? I guess that's due to the fact it's a business solution laptop that comes with high-end hardware by default (just like you can't get a MacBook pro with integrated graphics). They also have a cheaper model with a regular drive available (X200) for people with different needs.

SSD drives are only starting to become popular and are not available in capacities that can match regular hard drives. The oh-so-terribly tiny itty bitty SSD drive is just as big as the SSD drive you get in MacBook Air.

I can perhaps agree with better OS and no viruses, but that's it.

• Boot camp? The ThinkPad can run Windows too.
• Apple's support? It is one of the better ones, yes, but Lenovo is close second.
• Useful software? That's a VERY bold statement - I suggest you give us some facts to support it. Windows, regardless of it's downsides, is a very popular OS and as a consequence there is a lot of good software available for it.
• More ports? You're comparing two very different laptops. X300 fits in the ultraportable category with the MacBook Air. And it has more ports than MBA. If you compare the MacBook to Lenovo's bigger, comparable series, you will see the number of ports is also quite comparable.
• Free iPod and printer? Like someone already mentioned - you can get similar discounts for the ThinkPad, also this is a temporary thing that won't be here in the long run.

You know what else you get with the MacBook? Hardware that's over a year old (Santa Rosa chipset) instead of Montevina that came out couple of weeks ago.

It's not up to you to decide whether it's slim enough - if that was a fact, we could simply eliminate a whole class of ultra portable laptops, not to mention the even smaller netbooks that are becoming terribly popular lately. And it's not just the thickness - you forgot to mention the MacBook is nearly twice the weight of X300.

I hope I didn't sound too hostile, but I felt you didn't have any convincing arguments in your post.

Let me give you a convincing argument. A computer made by an US company is just better than one made by a China company. It is that simple.

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

What part of their pricing is the stinky one exactly? The fact you can't change the hard drive for a regular one? I guess that's due to the fact it's a business solution laptop that comes with high-end hardware by default (just like you can't get a MacBook pro with integrated graphics). They also have a cheaper model with a regular drive available (X200) for people with different needs.

but we're talking and comparing the x300 and the black macbook... plz READ the OP before you start going on about laptops. and the $3000, which to you is superior, has a 1.2ghz processor that hasnt seen a processor bump as of yet, and integrated graphics, the same gpu used in macbooks.

SSD drives are only starting to become popular and are not available in capacities that can match regular hard drives. The oh-so-terribly tiny itty bitty SSD drive is just as big as the SSD drive you get in MacBook Air.

now we're talking about the mba too? why not compare all the laptops under the heavens? for christ sakes, the OP posted a discussion about the Lenovo X300 and the Black MacBook. that's it. no mba, no x200. so macbook vs. x300, macbook has bigger drive. i didnt mention other laptops...

I can perhaps agree with better OS and no viruses, but that's it.

• Boot camp? The ThinkPad can run Windows too.
• Apple's support? It is one of the better ones, yes, but Lenovo is close second.
• Useful software? That's a VERY bold statement - I suggest you give us some facts to support it. Windows, regardless of it's downsides, is a very popular OS and as a consequence there is a lot of good software available for it.
• More ports? You're comparing two very different laptops. X300 fits in the ultraportable category with the MacBook Air. And it has more ports than MBA. If you compare the MacBook to Lenovo's bigger, comparable series, you will see the number of ports is also quite comparable.
• Free iPod and printer? Like someone already mentioned - you can get similar discounts for the ThinkPad, also this is a temporary thing that won't be here in the long run.

You know what else you get with the MacBook? Hardware that's over a year old (Santa Rosa chipset) instead of Montevina that came out couple of weeks ago.

WRONG... the Penryn platform. I currently own the MacBook Santa Rosa, and my dad owns the Penryn version for his work. Hardware over a year old? X300 uses a 1.2GHZ processor, slower than my 4 year old iBook G4, for christ's sake! And its NOT a Montevina processor. And of course we're comparing two different laptops, stop pushing your lenovo zelotry to the OP. Lenovo is business, Apple is high-end. And Boot Camp isnt windows, Boot Camp is Mac running Windows, not PC running Windows. Please get the facts straight. And sure neither is the Lenovo discounts all year round too, but and ipod plus printer is worth more than just a printer. I didnt criticize the windows software, just saying that mac has useful software, NOT trialware or junkware, but iLife. Windows has great software, but at sky-high prices, some of them.

It's not up to you to decide whether it's slim enough - if that was a fact, we could simply eliminate a whole class of ultra portable laptops, not to mention the even smaller netbooks that are becoming terribly popular lately. And it's not just the thickness - you forgot to mention the MacBook is nearly twice the weight of X300.

and neither is it your place, all im saying is based on the industry, 1.08 inch is thin, but some companies pushed it further, ie Apple and Lenovo. The Lenovo is lighter, but by 3 lbs. If you're that weak, I suggest using a desktop since you dont need to carry it around. For the last time, the OP wanted us to compare the Black MacBook vs. the Lenovo X300, nothing more, nothing less.

I hope I didn't sound too hostile, but I felt you didn't have any convincing arguments in your post.

well you stink at making complete arguments, you're just accusing me of giving the pros to apple and cons to lenovo. not true, im saying that the mac has this and lenovo doesnt, at least not included in the laptop by DEFAULT. keep posting and then i'll get real hostile. i hate dumb ppl who think one brand is superior not matter what. that being said, I'm not an applefan.

BTW, Lenovo X300 is over 3000, while the macbook starts at 1.1k, and the black one is 1.5k i think. Stop pushing your lenovo fanboyness and stay on the topic. The X300 is a 1.2ghz processor with a tiny but fast ssd drive (flash based), while the MacBook is 5400rpm HDD, with a processor that is double the X300's processor, just comparing the laptops mentioned by the OP.

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

Let me give you a convincing argument. A computer made by an US company is just better than one made by a China company. It is that simple.

umm.. not necessarily true... but in this case "made" is the right term, since apple has their laptops "assembled" in china and not "made" there. the lenovo ones are actually "made" in singapore, at least my dad's old thinkpad t41 is.

 

[*Sandy*]

What ever fits you more ,

 

[Anthony T]

I'm not too familiar with the X200....sounds cool though, since it's not as expensive as the X300.

But I decided to go with the Macbook. However, we told the guy we wanted the black one and when I got my e-mail it said white! When I called, some other moron told me I'd have to wait a half hour for my order to process, because they wouldn't be able to access it yet and then call customer service. When I did that, they told me order had already been boxed for shipping! So now they're going to send me a return label via e-mail and I have to reject the package when UPS/Fedex delivers it, and then re-order with the right laptop.

Ughhhhhh....

 

[crazyyankeefan]

umm.. not necessarily true... but in this case "made" is the right term, since apple has their laptops "assembled" in china and not "made" there. the lenovo ones are actually "made" in singapore, at least my dad's old thinkpad t41 is.

If you read through this thread, you'll find that I explained the difference of "made" and "assembled". So, don't talk like I don't know that Macs are "assembled in china". Also, do i sound like i care where Lenovo make their computer. A "Chinese campany" itself says it all. why would i care if it's "made in singapore" using "chinese imported parts"?

 

[haner]

Let me give you a convincing argument. A computer made by an US company is just better than one made by a China company. It is that simple.

I hope you drive only American cars (often made in Canada and Mexico), wear a Timex too, and play only the Xbox with no foreign games.

The China-bashing in this thread reminds me of why I hated Mac users before I got a Mac for myself. Apple has been the company caught using Chinese sweatshop labor, not Lenovo, IBM or Dell. There are thousands of factories in China, not all are shady. Apple chose the shady one through its Taiwanese contractors.

As in the automotive industry, may the best car win. I could care less if GM goes under due to years of its own mismanagement and SUV-pumping. Similarly, if some day Apple tanks (God forbid, right) and Chinese companies like Lenovo make a much more compelling product, I would buy the Lenovo. IMO, Lenovo isn't there yet with the X300, but they are on the right direction. It's called competition in a free market, something that I thought we Americans cherish and promote worldwide.

IMO, the "Designed in California, Assembled in China" is part of the cocky, superiority-complexed arrogance that Apple and a lot of its user base possess. Your Macbook is ***** Made in China. Get over it.

 

[haner]

However, there's a difference between "made in china" and "assembled in china". If "assembled in china", it means the products use "foreign parts".

No there isn't. It's a marketing euphemism that clearly works on xenophobic people like you. Your "Assembled in China" Macbook has just as many Chinese parts as a "Made in China" HP, Dell or Lenovo.

 

[crazyyankeefan]

No there isn't. It's a marketing euphemism that clearly works on xenophobic people like you. Your "Assembled in China" Macbook has just as many Chinese parts as a "Made in China" HP, Dell or Lenovo.

Do your study and research before you post. Most of Macs parts ain't from china.

 

[synth3tik]

Please do your research before criticizing Chinese companies as it is usually the American companies that are at fault for this.

You must known that for the vast majority of cases that American companies hire third party companies (chinese companies) to do their manufacturing.

Thats what my company does. We hire a "foundry" company and give them the spec of what we need. Then to still be viable in the US we must keep our cost lower then the cost of the foundry. These are companies (whether in China or elsewhere) have companies such as Apple as clients.

Back to the topic at hand.

As others have said these are two totally different computers. For college I would have to say the Macbook may be a better fit, how every if your planning on doing anything intensive, video games, graphics, animation, you may want to look in to the Lenovo. My only complaint with Lenovo is that their name sounds really really stupid.

 

[NateDMB]

I'm starting college September 2nd and I really need a new laptop.

Now I understand these answers may be a bit biased, since these are Mac forums lol. But I want you all to give me your honest opinion on which laptop I should get...I'm debating between the black Macbook and the Lenovo Thinkpad X300.

Biased info in these boards.....noooooooooo!
Trying to be as unbiased as possible. My mom has had a lenovo for years and loves it. However you are now dealing with Windows Pissta and I would highly advise against it. (From my own experience it sucks... really badly) If the prices line up I would suggest the MacBook without question.

 

[onehotchili]

On the subject of what is better, the MacBook or Thinkpad X300, I would say the MacBook wins simply on its better specs and lower price. A more comparable system to the MacBook is the Thinkpad T61 which is around the same price as the MacBook. Both machines are great and it just depends on whether you want Windows or Mac OS X.

as the owner of both a MacBook and a T61.... they are both nice in their own ways, like some other folks have mentioned. the T61 is a brick and a tried/true workhorse for me. for my work stuff, i would never use anything else (i have used Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.) my T61 is rock solid.

having said that, my 1 month MacBook is definitely sexier and much more intuitive for multi media, music, pictures, video stuff. it is my "home" oriented machine.... which i *can* use for work stuff in a pinch....

my dad recently picked up the top of the line X300 and i had a chance to play with it the other week. besides NOT liking the Vista OS, the actually lap was nice. the SSD drive is sweet.... but since i put one in my MacBook, i was already used to the performance gains from that.

either way, both are nice laptops and it really comes down to the OS and the look and feel that you prefer.... especially if you will be spending a lot of time on the computer.

 

[crazyyankeefan]

You must known that for the vast majority of cases that American companies hire third party companies (chinese companies) to do their manufacturing.

Thats what my company does. We hire a "foundry" company and give them the spec of what we need. Then to still be viable in the US we must keep our cost lower then the cost of the foundry. These are companies (whether in China or elsewhere) have companies such as Apple as clients.

Back to the topic at hand.

As others have said these are two totally different computers. For college I would have to say the Macbook may be a better fit, how every if your planning on doing anything intensive, video games, graphics, animation, you may want to look in to the Lenovo. My only complaint with Lenovo is that their name sounds really really stupid.

If really want to do graphics, get a MacBook Pro. Btw, the name, Lenovo is indeed lame.

 

[bunce66]

You mac people really are brainwashed. the x300 and macbook aren't even in the same category of laptop and, without thinking, you automatically praise the mac as superior. A fairer comparison would be the x300 vs. the macbook air, in which case I'd take the lenovo any day. Many people (myself included) happen to prefer the industrial/rugged look of Thinkpads over the toy-like appearance of mac laptops. Sorry, but the shiny Apple logo and glossy shell screms pretentiousness.

I, for one, only buy mac products because the OS is superior, but the hardware of the macbook or macbook air is nothing special. It's only in a shiny package so that people with more money than brains will pay a few hundred bucks extra. The x300 is a fine laptop, the only drawback I can think of is the fact taht you have to run windows. I'd say buying choices come down 95% to which OS you prefer. For me personally, it's the Mac. Hardware is nearly identical from brand to brand. My dream is for the idiots running apple to allow the OS to be used on any hardware. I know it's possible to do so, but it seems risky.

By the way, IBM did sell it's personal computing section to Lenovo, a Chinese brand. However, they are still designed by the same team of engineers as they were when IBM had them, and they are still largely built using the same components and in the same factories. All that changed is the logo (I know the logo is soooo important for you mac people, but it really means nothing.)

 

[Matek]

but we're talking and comparing the x300 and the black macbook... plz READ the OP before you start going on about laptops. and the $3000, which to you is superior, has a 1.2ghz processor that hasnt seen a processor bump as of yet, and integrated graphics, the same gpu used in macbooks.
now we're talking about the mba too? why not compare all the laptops under the heavens? for christ sakes, the OP posted a discussion about the Lenovo X300 and the Black MacBook. that's it. no mba, no x200. so macbook vs. x300, macbook has bigger drive. i didnt mention other laptops...

So with this logic, if someone asked whether he should buy a car or a bicycle, you would immediately tell him the car is much better, because it's more comfortable, has a higher top speed, room for more passangers, etc.? Just because he asked for a comparison?

I know i would tell him these two vehicles aren't directly comparable and that he should first decide whether he wants a car or a bike. This is exactly the same case - you can't compare two computers from different classes. X300 is more expensive and slower, but so is a MacBook Air with the similar configuration. It's because it's a different class of a laptop with more special hardware, not because Lenovo laptops aren't as good as Apple laptops. And I think this isn't "zealotry" from my side because a bunch of other posters also commented said these two shouldn't be directly compared.

WRONG... the Penryn platform. I currently own the MacBook Santa Rosa, and my dad owns the Penryn version for his work. Hardware over a year old? X300 uses a 1.2GHZ processor, slower than my 4 year old iBook G4, for christ's sake! And its NOT a Montevina processor.

I think you're wrong. There is no such thing as a "Penryn platform". Penryn is just the CPU - Your MacBook has a different CPU (Merom instead of Penryn) than your dad's, but the platform (rest of the hardware - whole mainboard with graphics etc.) is the same. Moving on - Montevina isn't a processor, it's a platform. Montevina laptops still use Penryn processors (with slight speed bumps). It seems you are slightly unclear in the hardware area (your comparing of Core 2 Duo with the G4 clock by clock confirms my statement), check out Centrino on wiki.

You're right about X300 not being based on the Montevina platform though, I was speaking generally - Lenovo has updated its laptop lineup, though they're still offering some older models alongside. The X200 i mentioned is already updated.

And of course we're comparing two different laptops, stop pushing your lenovo zelotry to the OP. Lenovo is business, Apple is high-end. And Boot Camp isnt windows, Boot Camp is Mac running Windows, not PC running Windows. Please get the facts straight. And sure neither is the Lenovo discounts all year round too, but and ipod plus printer is worth more than just a printer. I didnt criticize the windows software, just saying that mac has useful software, NOT trialware or junkware, but iLife. Windows has great software, but at sky-high prices, some of them.

Saying one company is strictly business and another is strictly high-end isn't reasonable - they both have products with different capabilities that fit both in the business and hi-end class. MacBook surely isn't a high-end product, otherwise the MacBook Pro wouldn't exist.

About boot camp - Macs are identical to all other PC laptops out there hardware wise ever since the switch to Intel has been made. This also means they are capable of running Windows without problems by default (because they are technically PCs). It's not some special feature just because Apple enabled this and gave it a cool marketing name.

The discounts are a very valid point, I can't deny that, I'm just saying this should generally be considered a bonus since it's not a standard feature of the laptop, but a temporary thing. You are right otherwise.

Saying Windows has junkware and trialware instead of real good software like iLife is more of a PC stereotype. It's true pre-installed machines can come with a lot of clutter, but that doesn't generally make os x software better. Some Windows software being very expensive also isn't something that can be generalised, I don't think average OS X software is any cheaper.

As I said - the huge market share of Windows is running the software business and it's wrong to say Macs are any better in this field.

and neither is it your place, all im saying is based on the industry, 1.08 inch is thin, but some companies pushed it further, ie Apple and Lenovo. The Lenovo is lighter, but by 3 lbs. If you're that weak, I suggest using a desktop since you dont need to carry it around. For the last time, the OP wanted us to compare the Black MacBook vs. the Lenovo X300, nothing more, nothing less.

You're the one who suggested the MacBook is small enough (and you take this further by calling people who don't want to carry heavier laptops around weak). You said it should be based on the industry and luckily it currently is - there are at least two full classes of laptops lighter/smaller/thinner than the MacBook - ultraportables and netbooks. Both are selling pretty well, which obviousely means there are a lot of people out there who need lighter and smaller machines.

well you stink at making complete arguments, you're just accusing me of giving the pros to apple and cons to lenovo. not true, im saying that the mac has this and lenovo doesnt, at least not included in the laptop by DEFAULT. keep posting and then i'll get real hostile. i hate dumb ppl who think one brand is superior not matter what. that being said, I'm not an applefan.

BTW, Lenovo X300 is over 3000, while the macbook starts at 1.1k, and the black one is 1.5k i think. Stop pushing your lenovo fanboyness and stay on the topic. The X300 is a 1.2ghz processor with a tiny but fast ssd drive (flash based), while the MacBook is 5400rpm HDD, with a processor that is double the X300's processor, just comparing the laptops mentioned by the OP.

I think it's ironic you think I'm a dumb person who thinks one brand is superior. I currently own a MacBook and am pretty happy with it. Also - if you look carefully - I never said the Lenovo is absolutely better, I said it has certain advantages (build quality being one of them) that make it worth considering, but that the OP should decide based on his needs (and he obviousely did). I'm just trying to prove a point, I don't think your threats about getting hostile will help the discussion.

EDIT: Congrats to the OP on his new laptop - I hope it serves you well .

 

[crazyyankeefan]

It's funny how only Americans would praise some Chinese products like that.
As far as I know European countries and Japan all look at Chinese products in disgust.

 

[Matek]

Well, not really. I'm from EU, we don't really praise Chinese products, but we're aware that nowadays more or less everything is made in China so we can't do much about it.