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some americans are simply too uptight. i just don't get it. it is halloween for gods sake. if that is the americans only problem, then i would reconsider my statement.

another poster also stated, what if a black guy (or gal) goes to a halloween party and tries to look white? would they be bashed, too? i honestly hope not.
 
redAPPLE said:
some americans are simply too uptight. i just don't get it. it is halloween for gods sake. if that is the americans only problem, then i would reconsider my statement.

another poster also stated, what if a black guy (or gal) goes to a halloween party and tries to look white? would they be bashed, too? i honestly hope not.

The problem with it is that there is a historical (and you don't have to go back too far, either) context for this kind of racism against black people in the US. Black face was used as a way to insult black people, whereas there is no history of people using "white face" to insult whites.
 
oh well .. what's next ? not being able to dress up as islamic terrorist either ?

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aren't there special makeups available like during carnival ? ... i remember using such stuff when i went as a green monster as a kid
 
Last halloween I was a "New Orleans Looter" and I used black face paint from walmart... worked very well
 
Calvinatir said:
Last halloween I was a "New Orleans Looter" and I used black face paint from walmart... worked very well

Yikes!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

I would never do such a thing. I lived through the LA riots and if I dressed as a black rioter or looter it would have been considered in bad taste, but that's just my opinion.
 
eh, it was when I lived in Calabasas (or CalaBlackless as some say) so I was in no real danger...
 
I was welcomed by a couple black people who were at the party, they thought it was hilarious... I had an Albertson's carry basket with some nike boxes and some food and stuff in it. And I carried around a fake glock and a rifle. It was amazing.
 
Stinkythe1 said:
Before you gasp :eek:

My brother and I always attend a halloween party as a pair. In the past we've been Gordon Freeman and the G-Man, Gabe and Tycho, Good Ash and bad Ash. You get the idea. So this year we are thinking about going as Jules and Vincent from Pulp Fiction. I will be playing the role of Jules. I am white and I need to turn into Samuel L Jackson. Does anyone know about face makeup and where I could procure an African American hue? I want it to be pretty permenant where it doesn't rub off on clothes yet easily washed off in the shower.

However, I don't want to look like this:

Minstrel_PosterBillyVanWare.jpg


Advice?



Noooooooooo!!!! I was going to do that NEXT year w/ a good friend of mine! This year we are going to a holloween party as "two wild and craaaazy guys" (the Saturday Night Live skit w/ Steve Martin and Beluschi), which is easy enough since I actually own clothes that look exactly like they wore in that skit.


The Pulp Fiction idea is great though (I really am doing it next year!). Wear a nice suit or the like as an entry costume, and get rid of them later on (wear some nasty, ugly ass golf lookin clothes underneath).
 
Was it in MS that a frat got disbanded because two guys dressed up as Venus and Serena Williams?

I thought they woulda made great costumes, but apparently the university disagreed.
 
iKwick7 said:
The Pulp Fiction idea is great though (I really am doing it next year!). Wear a nice suit or the like as an entry costume, and get rid of them later on (wear some nasty, ugly ass golf lookin clothes underneath).

Maybe I can sell you our wigs for next year.... :p

Maybe I should have clarified the nature of this party. This is probably only about 8-10 of some close friends, where we all go to a cabin out somewhere and watch scary movies. No black people will be there to be offended. :D

So now that we know that I won't be offending anyone at this party, can you please answer my question?

Thanks.
 
MrSmith said:
For some reason Political Correctness is infectious. If someone came to my house looking like the guy in the top picture I'd laugh my arse off...because I think it's funny.
Your country does not have the extremely negative historical connotations associated with black face that ours does. It has an entirely different meaning in the U.S.
Calvinatir said:
Last halloween I was a "New Orleans Looter" and I used black face paint from walmart... worked very well
That's sick. Most of the "looters" were people trying to feed their families. Also, regardless of what you might think white residents also "looted".
 
ChrisWB said:
That's sick. Most of the "looters" were people trying to feed their families. Also, regardless of what you might think white residents also "looted".


I didn't think it was sick. When I watched TV all I saw were black people running a muck on the streets with guns and NIKE's and all that nonsense. It's really not that big of a deal, I'm trying to think of something even more offensive for next week like Terri Schiavo, LOL kidding
 
Calvinatir said:
I didn't think it was sick. When I watched TV all I saw were black people running a muck on the streets with guns and NIKE's and all that nonsense. It's really not that big of a deal
All I saw was families trying to hold together through a crisis.
 
ChrisWB said:
That's sick. Most of the "looters" were people trying to feed their families. Also, regardless of what you might think white residents also "looted".
No no no, you have it all wrong. White people "foraged", black people "looted". ;)
 
This is the first time I think I've actually been frightened by a thread on these boards.

If you can't get outside your own head or your own culture, don't expect others not to be offended by your ignorance.
 
iKwick7 said:
Noooooooooo!!!! I was going to do that NEXT year w/ a good friend of mine! This year we are going to a holloween party as "two wild and craaaazy guys" (the Saturday Night Live skit w/ Steve Martin and Beluschi), which is easy enough since I actually own clothes that look exactly like they wore in that skit.

It was Steve Martin & Dan Aykroyd - not Belushi.

And as far as the blackface thing goes, I know a guy who tried a similar costume a few years ago. He got his a$$ kicked on the bus ride home.

Good luck.
 
If you're set on Pulp Fiction, I vote for Zed and Maynard. If someone doesn't like your costumes, you can tie them up and sodo...uh, err, have loving relations with them. ;)
 
I wouldn't be offended. I'm Asian, maybe that's why. :rolleyes:

I second the foundation. It's a little tough to find darker shades, and I've forgotten what brands offer it. I'm pretty sure Covergirl or L'Oreal will, you can find it at Target or someplace similar. It should stay on pretty well (just don't sweat a lot) and then wash off with some soap.
 
ChrisWB said:
Your country does not have the extremely negative historical connotations associated with black face that ours does. It has an entirely different meaning in the U.S.

Yes it does. Mr.BNP & co. wouldn't admit to it though. It's a different history, of course, but the negative connotations are there.

Racially motivated violence in the UK is still pretty common.

I'm frankly surprised that the Brits in this thread seem to think saying that wearing black face paint is not ok means that American's are 'uptight.' I'm a dual national and don't think that any mature, straight thinking person would think it's ok on any side of the pond (aside from Mr.BNP& Co. and perhaps some of the Tory backbench). It really doesn't have anything to do with equivalences. The argument, "if a black guy dressed up like a white guy.." is an invalid argument. Whites dressing up as africans, indians, asians etc. was a symbol of repression for.. a long time. There is still a huge power differential in the US AND the UK between white and other races, thus to try to reduce this to a matter of moral equivalences is supremely moronic.

Incidentally, for Americans, waking Aussies and Kiwis who don't know: BNP=British National Party. They are the polite wing of British Nazi's.

yt
 
yojitani said:
Yes it does. Mr.BNP & co. wouldn't admit to it though. It's a different history, of course, but the negative connotations are there.

Racially motivated violence in the UK is still pretty common.

I'm frankly surprised that the Brits in this thread seem to think saying that wearing black face paint is not ok means that American's are 'uptight.' I'm a dual national and don't think that any mature, straight thinking person would think it's ok on any side of the pond (aside from Mr.BNP& Co. and perhaps some of the Tory backbench). It really doesn't have anything to do with equivalences. The argument, "if a black guy dressed up like a white guy.." is an invalid argument. Whites dressing up as africans, indians, asians etc. was a symbol of repression for.. a long time. There is still a huge power differential in the US AND the UK between white and other races, thus to try to reduce this to a matter of moral equivalences is supremely moronic.

Incidentally, for Americans, waking Aussies and Kiwis who don't know: BNP=British National Party. They are the polite wing of British Nazi's.

yt
Your argument is to the effect that because seeing a white person in black get-up (as Samuel L. Jackson - not to ridicule black people) doesn't offend me I'm a Nazi :confused: Look. It's nothing to do with history. I can't relate such a small thing as that with racial suffering. You are obviously only too willing to be offended. How can there ever be peace and equality with people like you making every little thing a tense political drama?
 
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