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BR2049 Spoilers
One of the things that hit me in retrospect several days after seeing the movie...

...is that K's life is nothing like that of the impression that I'd have for a replicant/slave. My impression would be that slaves would have no pay or benefits, and would work in the most dangerous jobs with the most terrible conditions. This is certainly established in Blade Runner.

Yet we see K having an apartment with a window view in a city where most rooms aren't going to have a window. His apartment even has has interior walls and distinct areas. He has money for personal luxuries like Joi, her mobile emitter/lightbee, drinking alcohol, and eating out. In fact, his lifestyle seems significantly better than the humans camping in the building's hallway and stairwell.

I would think, at best, LAPD replicants would be living in a police dorm with group sleeping quarters, group cafeteria with basic needs food, no time off, and no luxuries whatsoever. Yet K seems to be solidly in upper middle class territory (relative to the standards of the human residents of LA in 2049).

I ask myself why I didn't notice this during the film and I think it is because K's lifestyle mirrored Deckard's closely enough that I just sort of accepted it as how an LAPD employee lived. But in retrospect, Deckard's lifestyle was necessary cover so that he would think he was human. (Or, if you insist that he is human, then that too is justification for him having property.) On the other hand, K knows he is a replicant and so does the audience, so there's no need for the facade. He's supposed to be a slave.

Just rewatched BR2049. The first time I saw this, I had an expectations problem and had to think about, if I liked it. I recognize it as a moving, worthy, intriguing sequel.

I believe that engineered humans or A.I, equivalent or exceeding human intelligence when given self awareness and basically free will is inherently problematic if the intent is to treat them as slaves and expect smooth sailing.

However it seems in the case of Niander Wallace, Head of Wallace Corporation the new Nexus 9 series is supposed to be compliant, understand their purpose, and the LAPD deems that giving a Bladerunner perks makes for a happy slave, while testing them extensively to make sure they are still onboard with the program and their status.

One thing reinforced watching K and Luv is that Replicants are stronger and more resilient than humans, otherwise how could K take the beating that he takes and keep going?

The most important plot point in this story is that while the LAPD seeks a replicant child to erase it as if it never existed, Wallace wants to find the child to enable his vision:
Niander Wallace: Every leap of civilization was built off the back of a disposable workforce. We lost our stomach for slaves unless engineered. But I can only make so many. That barren pasture empty and salted, right here. The dead space between the stars. And this, the seat that we must change for heaven. I cannot breed them. So help me, I have tried. We need more Replicants than can ever be assembled. Millions, so we can be trillions more. We could storm Eden and retake her. Tyrell’s final trick: Procreation. Perfected, then lost. But there is a child. Bring it to me.

Intriguing, fantastic article about Luv, Wallace’s Right Hand Replcant enforcer. I’ve always said we have very little if any free choice :):
TEARS OF A MACHINE: THE HUMANITY OF LUV IN "BLADE RUNNER 2049"
https://www.rogerebert.com/balder-a...hine-the-humanity-of-luv-in-blade-runner-2049

Hoeks (actress who plays Luv) is devastating in the role, and the tension between who Luv wants to be and who she is makes her a powerful parallel to humanity. Psychology tells us that we all want to be different—more moral, more honest, more loyal. And biology tells us that problems with agency, freedom and identity start early, not late. Who you are is an intricate chess game between nature and nurture; like Luv, we are programmed first, conditioned later. These are the central ideas of “Blade Runner” and “Blade Runner 2049,” and in fact, the way famed behavioral biologist Robert Sapolsky of Stanford University characterizes humanity almost sounds like the plot of “Blade Runner” itself. He believes killers and thieves are nothing more than the equivalent of a BMW with bad brakes on the highway. An unambiguous danger that must be stopped, but to zero fault of its own––not unlike Deckard hunting down Roy, Leon, and Priss. Sapolsky goes one step further. He believes all behavior works exactly the same, saying the single most important question to answer is to accept that there is no free will, only the proverbial 1s and 0s of programming and conditioning.

Side note, the exterior shots were filmed in Budapest and Nevada, including an abandoned power plant near Budapest.
http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/b/Blade-Runner-2049.php

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K’s apartment, Szalay Street, Budapest
 
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Such a great film. Denis Villeneuve is one of the best in the business. The problem is the film is just too long.
I’d much prefer this, instead of 2 movies. Further, if I had to watch 2 movies to get to the ending of the movie as is, I would have been ticked.
 
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Has anyone read any of these Blade Runner novels? If so, your opinion would be appreciated!

Blade Runner Franchise
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_(franchise)

Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human

In 1994, K. W. Jeter, a personal friend of Philip K. Dick, began developing a series of Blade Runner novels that would serve as a continuation of both the film Blade Runner, and the novel upon which it was based, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?. The first of these novels, Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human, was published on October 1, 1995. The novel was set several months after the events of Blade Runner, following Deckard living in an isolated shack outside of Los Angeles, with Rachael with him in a Tyrell transport container, intended to slow down the replicant aging process. Deckard is called in by the human template of Rachael, Sarah Tyrell, to hunt down a missing replicant in exchange for technology allowing Rachael to live. Meanwhile, Roy Batty, the human template for the replicant of the same name, hires Dave Holden, a blade runner previously attacked by Leon, to help him hunt down the man that he believes to be the sixth replicant – Deckard.

Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night
In 1996, K. W. Jeter published science fiction novel Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night, the sequel to Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human. The novel follows Rick Deckard, now living on Mars, as he is acting as a consultant to a film crew filming the story of his days as a blade runner. He finds himself drawn into a mission on behalf of the replicants he was once assigned to kill. Meanwhile, the mystery surrounding the beginnings of the Tyrell Corporation is being dragged out into the light.

Blade Runner 4: Eye and Talon
Blade Runner 4: Eye and Talon, also known as Blade Runner 4: Beyond Orion, is the third novel written by K. W. Jeter that continues the storyline started in the 1982 Blade Runner film. The novel was published in 2000. The story takes place concurrently with the events of Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night, following Iris, a Blade Runner who has been sent on an assignment to find Eldon Tyrell's "real owl", which appears to have special significance to the Tyrell Corporation and other organizations.
 
Has anyone read any of these Blade Runner novels? If so, your opinion would be appreciated!

Blade Runner Franchise
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_(franchise)

Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human

In 1994, K. W. Jeter, a personal friend of Philip K. Dick, began developing a series of Blade Runner novels that would serve as a continuation of both the film Blade Runner, and the novel upon which it was based, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?. The first of these novels, Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human, was published on October 1, 1995. The novel was set several months after the events of Blade Runner, following Deckard living in an isolated shack outside of Los Angeles, with Rachael with him in a Tyrell transport container, intended to slow down the replicant aging process. Deckard is called in by the human template of Rachael, Sarah Tyrell, to hunt down a missing replicant in exchange for technology allowing Rachael to live. Meanwhile, Roy Batty, the human template for the replicant of the same name, hires Dave Holden, a blade runner previously attacked by Leon, to help him hunt down the man that he believes to be the sixth replicant – Deckard.

Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night
In 1996, K. W. Jeter published science fiction novel Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night, the sequel to Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human. The novel follows Rick Deckard, now living on Mars, as he is acting as a consultant to a film crew filming the story of his days as a blade runner. He finds himself drawn into a mission on behalf of the replicants he was once assigned to kill. Meanwhile, the mystery surrounding the beginnings of the Tyrell Corporation is being dragged out into the light.

Blade Runner 4: Eye and Talon
Blade Runner 4: Eye and Talon, also known as Blade Runner 4: Beyond Orion, is the third novel written by K. W. Jeter that continues the storyline started in the 1982 Blade Runner film. The novel was published in 2000. The story takes place concurrently with the events of Blade Runner 3: Replicant Night, following Iris, a Blade Runner who has been sent on an assignment to find Eldon Tyrell's "real owl", which appears to have special significance to the Tyrell Corporation and other organizations.

I didn't even know there were any books that spawned from the movie. Interesting. I am also following this as I am always looking for a good book and I love the movie franchise.
 
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I didn't even know there were any books that spawned from the movie. Interesting. I am also following this as I am always looking for a good book and I love the movie franchise.
If you get hold of one, let me know what you think. The thing is Bladerunner is not very much like Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep from what I remember. The book BR4 is the sequel to the original movie. That’s the one I’d read first.
 
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Totally blown away by the first Blade Runner. The city, the fog, the light, the signs.

The story was solid, and well told. Toy Man, Eye Man, Snake lady, and each Replicant were believable. This movie had feel. It left you with deep emotions.

Not so number 2. It was just a weak, $$ copy... And it rightfully bombed. a2
 
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