Of course they are, sadly. Brendan Eich with Brave has put out a better chromium fork and with better privacy in a few years than apple with 30 years of browser development.
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Bloomberg: Apple May Let iOS Users Set Third-Party Web Browser and Mail Apps as Defaults Over Stock Apps
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Of course they are, sadly. Brendan Eich with Brave has put out a better chromium fork and with better privacy in a few years than apple with 30 years of browser development.
I think it will be fine. You still got the handful of people who “value their privacy”, so they will still continue to use Safari.
How does this tired trope persist? I'm guessing either ignorance or cognitive dissonance. A lie (selling your data) mixed with partial truths (advertising is Google's primary revenue stream, just as hardware is Apple's) is just a lie. Facts would help your point.
These are same users who praise Safari, look at those arguments, no wonder Apple puts out any garbage and they still bite. If it were for them they would be shipping 16 inch MBPs with butterfly keyboards. The evolution of mankind.
I wouldn't use Chrome if my life depended upon it, as Chrome leaks privacy faster than Trump's White House.
Firefox is the way to go, for browsers; and Apple should also let us have extensions such as Ublock Origin.
Firefox is the way to go, for browsers; and Apple should also let us have extensions such as Ublock Origin.
My big issue with mobile safari is:
- open some webpage
- go to some link on that page
- navigate back
- the whole webpage is frozen for a few sec because of some kind reloading...
I can see it every single day on many different pages. This is why I'm starting to hate mobile safari.
- open some webpage
- go to some link on that page
- navigate back
- the whole webpage is frozen for a few sec because of some kind reloading...
I can see it every single day on many different pages. This is why I'm starting to hate mobile safari.
Of course. If they were doing it to be nice guys, it would have happened long ago.
The thing most folks forget about other web browsers on iOS is that they are ALL just Safari. iOS does not allow you to bring in a totally new web browser. They are just all Safari re-skinned. They use the same engine and everything, regardless if it's Firefox, DDG, etc.
Not to mention, those two apps - or in more abstract terms, an email client and a web browser - are probably like 95% of the most user's "cross application" targets.
If I can open Chrome from [Apple] Mail, Messages, Twitter, YT, Music, Maps, etc., I'm good! For me, at this point, I use Gmail just to accommodate using Chrome, I'd honestly prefer just to use Mail (I'm using it on a recently purchased iPadPro, vs. Gmail on my iPhone, ready to switch back, but also not digging on: [tap and hold] >> Share >> Open in Chrome ...)
Unfortunately, there is a high risk that is what would happen. And if Apple expand it to Maps, the same thing would occur.
Sounds like you are saying that Apple can't make a browser that would compete with Google.
I am all for giving the consumer choice. For instance, I should be able to make Waze the default map app and when I give a siri command to navigate somewhere it should use the app that I prefer to use. Not the App that Apple dictates that I use.
do not want
The last thing I need to have to try and figure out, over the phone, is what browser my mother has screwed up while trying to troubleshoot why she can't see her posts on facebook.
The last thing I need to have to try and figure out, over the phone, is what browser my mother has screwed up while trying to troubleshoot why she can't see her posts on facebook.
I bet dollar that if they do this the web browsers will still need to use WKWebViews rather than providing another renderer.
Apart from that, I can’t really see why they wouldn’t do this this year. It’ll help strengthen against monopoly/anti-competitive behaviour claims & a decade in, the general users habits are far too ingrained to switch out their services now, except for maybe that one app that we all personally have that’d be more handy as another service by default. It’ll be the same proportion of people that use third party keyboards. The sky will not fall.
I also struggle to think what other tentpole features there could be in iOS14, this really is one of the last low hanging fruit omissions in iOS.
Apart from that, I can’t really see why they wouldn’t do this this year. It’ll help strengthen against monopoly/anti-competitive behaviour claims & a decade in, the general users habits are far too ingrained to switch out their services now, except for maybe that one app that we all personally have that’d be more handy as another service by default. It’ll be the same proportion of people that use third party keyboards. The sky will not fall.
I also struggle to think what other tentpole features there could be in iOS14, this really is one of the last low hanging fruit omissions in iOS.
Yeah, I'm Outlook (work), Gmail (personal), and Chrome primarily because it travels well across PC, Mac, Android, and iOS. If I could get Gmail and Chrome as defaults on my iPads I'd be happier. They're 100% consumption devices so it's really no big deal, but the ability to set up my devices exactly how I want them is appealing.
You are correct to an extent. The reason is down to security, the requirement they would have to run interpreted code. Apple provides a JS engine for Safari and 3rd-party apps which they fully control (so the device / user is "protected" from bad code). To allow other engineers to create other engines on iOS, it means that this protection mechanism would need to be removed - Apple would be unlikely to do that.
It’s not the only browser, you can download chrome and firefox and ms edge, and others. Just currently can’t set them as default. A browser is pretty much a browser though, as long as at a minimum it has security and privacy equal to Safari. I heard a few are even better
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And you are so insulting to others, you must be right
I agree, this should be on a list of sh*t Apple users say.
Google doesnt sell anything, they have no need to. They ARE the customer of that data. So "technically" Google isnt selling your data, they are using it. And even then it is FAR more nuanced like its anonymized and used for trends, etc.
On topic, I feel like we've heard this rumor before so I will believe it when I see it. It would be welcomed though.
Technically, Apple loses nothing from this. They arent making money on Safari or the Mail app, getting no benefit from people using it, so its not a technical loss to them.
Im seeing clearly uneducated pro-Apple comments on this story around the web like "buh wuh bout mah privacy!!" Like huh? How exactly is setting it as a default app any less privacy than using the app on your phone? Again the sh*t Apple users say is baffling sometimes. This is why user feedback sometimes isnt all that great when people dont understand basic concepts before giving their opinions.
100% agree. This is one of the most frustrating user experiences of the iPhone imo. It's one thing to require Apple Maps for OS specific links if you require the app to stay downloaded, but another if you allow users to delete the app and have no viable workaround. Every time I click a map link in contacts/messages, I get a message to restore maps and then just drop whatever I was trying to do and chalk it up to a loss.
Doesn’t happen for me at all. Quick and smooth, totally happy with it. Of course that’s on an iPhone X. Might be slower on older phones. Sometimes the problem is the site and or WiFi, or cellular
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So you are not an Apple user, but hang out in forums to say sh*t about Apple users? Nice hobby
I really only want this for the music app. I'd choose Spotify as the default app. Safari is the best browser for iOS since all browsers on iOS use the same WebKit, so added functionalities are limited. It'd make no difference for me to have a default mail app because I already just use what I want to use - there's no difference in functionality by having one or the other as default. I also prefer to use Apple Maps, so a default alternative app wouldn't affect me there.