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Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Debby Wu today previewed details about Apple's widely rumored trio of 2018 iPhones. Towards the end of the report, there are also a few details about the Apple Watch and iPad that we've highlighted below.

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The first noteworthy tidbit is that Apple Watch Series 4 models will be compatible with existing bands, as they are said to have a similar physical size as Series 3 models and earlier. Gurman already said as much earlier this year, but there were some lingering concerns from MacRumors readers in our discussion forums.

Apple Watch Series 4 models are still expected to have up to 15 percent larger displays, as a result of slimmer bezels around the screen. They're also expected to have slightly longer battery life, along with new health and fitness features.

The second tidbit worth singling out is that the iPad mini won't be updated this year, according to Gurman. That information corroborates DigiTimes, which recently reported that "Apple so far has no further plan for the iPad mini series," which hasn't been refreshed since the iPad mini 4 launched in September 2015.

Apple's focus on the lower-cost 9.7-inch iPad may result in the iPad mini line being discontinued eventually, although Gurman hasn't specified.

We're likely just a few weeks away from Apple's usual September event at Steve Jobs Theater, with invites to the media likely to be issued this week. In addition to the new iPhones and Apple Watch Series 4 models, Apple is expected to unveil two new iPad Pros with Face ID, new AirPods, and AirPower pricing and availability.

Article Link: Bloomberg: Apple Watch Series 4 Models Compatible With Existing Bands, No New iPad Mini This Year
 
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TimUSCA

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I kind of figured the bands would be compatible. As long as the watch continues to be rectangular (which is likely) and the watch itself isn't thinner than the current band itself (which is unlikely), there's no reason to change the band lug design. And that's good news considering I have like 10 bands I'd really rather not begin replacing.

No new iPad mini is disappointing though. I was hoping to get one for my daughter. The 9.7" is a great deal, but $300 is still a lot for a kid's birthday gift, and her small hands would do better with a mini too. At the current iPad mini price, I'd be a fool to buy one.
 
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chrisdazzo

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Having the iPhone X for a year now, I could care less about a newer version since this is a ridiculously good phone, but I'm all for a more bezel-free Apple Watch series 4. Really do hope my 5 bands are compatible... 6? 7? I can't even recall now.
 

jhudgins

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iPad mini: makes sense. With the new larger plus iPhone, can’t see much of a need.
 

jhudgins

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Don't underestimate the number of children who use an iPad. And when it comes to parents footing the bill, the cheaper the better. There's a huge market for children that use iOS but certainly don't need an iPhone.
Point taken, though I see children being given iOS devices as a problem. But that’s for another thread.
 

CWallace

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The iPad Mini either does not sell well (and Apple believes would not sell any better with a spec bump) or it sells well enough as-is that spec-bumping it would likely not boost sales significantly and would erode margins (if kept at the same price). So it will continue to limp along as-is.
 

adamjackson

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I'm stoked to hear this and hope it comes true because the $550 I paid for my Space Black Stainless Steel band 4 generations ago can keep in service. I love the band, it's my only one and I continue to buy a new model and sell it with the black band that comes with it. I only hope the series 4 will have an SS Space Black model to match the band.
 

Return Zero

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The question is, how big would the riot be if the bands weren't compatible? :p

That's really too bad about the mini... it's a perfect form factor for so many things.
 
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The iPad Mini either does not sell well (and Apple believes would not sell any better with a spec bump) or it sells well enough as-is that spec-bumping it would likely not boost sales significantly and would erode margins (if kept at the same price). So it will continue to limp along as-is.
They need to apply a spec bump on the mini so they can compete
 

dabocx

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The A8 in the mini is starting to get a little old, either the mini needs to jump up in specs or needs a decent price drop because the current price point is criminal
 
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bLackjackj

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So what we have learned from Gurman, is that he reads digitimes & stating what everyone already new, that the bands are compatible
 

bLackjackj

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I'm stoked to hear this and hope it comes true because the $550 I paid for my Space Black Stainless Steel band 4 generations ago can keep in service. I love the band, it's my only one and I continue to buy a new model and sell it with the black band that comes with it. I only hope the series 4 will have an SS Space Black model to match the band.

Its pretty obvious isn't it?
 

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The iPad Mini either does not sell well (and Apple believes would not sell any better with a spec bump) or it sells well enough as-is that spec-bumping it would likely not boost sales significantly and would erode margins (if kept at the same price). So it will continue to limp along as-is.

The mini was the best selling ipad while Apple kept up with updates. Their response to those sales numbers was to not update it further, and year after year, let sales diminish. Eventually they'll be able to point to low sales as reason to discontinue it, but it's entirely a choice they've made regardless of sales. Instead of updating it, or adding Pencil support, they've created several new larger, cheaper ipads and pushed those instead, entirely missing the appeal and utility of the Mini, like everyone else in this thread who thinks a plus sized iPhone is an equivalent device. It is not.

It's somewhat obvious they never looked into how people use minis, and mistakenly regarded the model as the budget ipad, then sought to make more profitable replacements for it that were all-around cheaper to build than a full featured iPad squeezed into the more convenient 7.9" frame. Add it to the Macbook Air, the Macbook Pro 17", the Air Ex/TC, Cinema Display line, etc. The most useful & popular devices Apple built, all on the fire.
 
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Dave245

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Really looking forward to getting the Series 4, I have an original Apple Watch and I think the Series 4 will be a big upgrade from the one I have.

I’m looking forward to going for a run without having to carry my iPhone. Also better battery life than my current original Apple Watch would be nice :)

I wonder what the “new health and fitness features” are going to be, I can already track my run, heart rate and so on.
 

jonnyb098

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They should just discontinue it, looks less bad than selling a device with a 4-year old chip.
Its like the iPod Touch and iPad 2 before it ( which was around almost 4 years). Probably have to keep it due to some silly legal contracts with businesses or schools like the iPad 2.
 

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Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Debby Wu today previewed details about Apple's widely rumored trio of 2018 iPhones. Towards the end of the report, there are also a few details about the Apple Watch and iPad that we've highlighted below.

apple-watch-ipad-mini.jpg

The first noteworthy tidbit is that Apple Watch Series 4 models will be compatible with existing bands, as they are said to have a similar physical size as Series 3 models and earlier. Gurman already said as much earlier this year, but there were some lingering concerns from MacRumors readers in our discussion forums.

Apple Watch Series 4 models are still expected to have up to 15 percent larger displays, as a result of slimmer bezels around the screen. They're also expected to have slightly longer battery life, along with new health and fitness features.

The second tidbit worth singling out is that the iPad mini won't be updated this year, according to Gurman. That information corroborates DigiTimes, which recently reported that "Apple so far has no further plan for the iPad mini series," which hasn't been refreshed since the iPad mini 4 launched in September 2015.

Apple's focus on the lower-cost 9.7-inch iPad may result in the iPad mini line being discontinued eventually, although Gurman hasn't specified.

We're likely just a few weeks away from Apple's usual September event at Steve Jobs Theater, with invites to the media likely to be issued this week. In addition to the new iPhones and Apple Watch Series 4 models, Apple is expected to unveil two new iPad Pros with Face ID, new AirPods, and AirPower pricing and availability.

Article Link: Bloomberg: Apple Watch Series 4 Models Compatible With Existing Bands, No New iPad Mini This Year
With the bigger iPhone size, iPad m
iPad mini: makes sense. With the new larger plus iPhone, can’t see much of a need.
Expected news. Current size iPhone is an iPad mini with the same exact iOS
 
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