Bloomberg Confirms September iPhone 5 Launch, Hi-Res iPad 3?

[Geckotek]

Bloomberg has a reputation all right, when it comes to aapl rumors. However, it certainly isn't a good one.

Really? What rumors did they call wrong vs the ones they got right? Do you have a Tally?

Edit: I should point out that I believe most of their bad reputation came from stating way back in June 2010 that Verizon would get the iPhone in 2011. Everyone called BS. Everyone was wrong. Bloomberg called it.

 

[pavers]

iPad 3 hight Res.

don't think the iPad 3 launch that quick, iPone5 with better spec, yes I do believe!

 

[KnightWRX]

Reason not to is noise. More pixels means pixels closer together and/or smaller which means worse noise and worse low light performance.

Except again for the much improved Sony optics. The Xperia Arc's 8 MP camera takes better low light images and has less overall noise than the iPhone 4's camera.

Look up the reviews, Sony really did a fantastic job and the iPhone 4's camera is really pathetic compared to the Xperia Arc's. Hence why Apple is rumored to go with Sony's camera in the next iPhone. It is that much better.

 

[ardent73]

Other Matters really do matter...

Sorry if it was already mentioned, a big reason that iPhone 5 and iPad 3 were delayed being made public is because of the Apple lawsuit with Samsung.

 

[dampfnudel]

Again... What part of "Year of the iPad 2" don't you understand? I can see an iPhone update, but not an iPad. Also, I can see it not being called iPhone "5."

Does it make sense to call the 5th generation iPhone with iOS 5 anything other than iPhone 5? Besides, I'm sure Asian markets will appreciate the change from the unlucky number 4 to the number 5. In particular, many of China Mobile's 600 million customers will probably appreciate it.

As for "Year of the iPad 2", if Apple releases a new iPad in September, it could be called iPad 2 HD (with an improved display) so "Year of the iPad 2" would still stand as the truth, mostly. You have to realize when it comes to business, nothing is written in stone and anything is possible, including a new iPad only six months after the release of the last one. Of course, I won't believe it until I see it, just like with the Verizon iPhone. I've heard many rumors that never came true or took too damn long to come true (in the case of the Verizon iPhone for example).

 

[Geckotek]

Sorry if it was already mentioned, a big reason that iPhone 5 and iPad 3 were delayed being made public is because of the Apple lawsuit with Samsung.

You mean other than the fact that Apple never makes them public before they announce them at one of their events?

 

[KnightWRX]

Does it make sense to call the 5th generation iPhone with iOS 5 anything other than iPhone 5?

Actually, yes. It would be a good time to simply call it "iPhone" and be done with all the stupid suffixes.

 

[mccldwll]

Really? What rumors did they call wrong vs the ones they got right? Do you have a Tally?

Edit: I should point out that I believe most of their bad reputation came from stating way back in June 2010 that Verizon would get the iPhone in 2011. Everyone called BS. Everyone was wrong. Bloomberg called it.

No Tally. But Bloom's financial reporting when it comes to aapl has been questionable for years (Gugliemo often citing Abramsky with his RIMM conflict and Toni the Tool for aapl info). As far as recent reporting (which obviously could eventually be true in spite of NYT statement):

http://www.edibleapple.com/new-report-says-apple-is-not-working-on-a-smaller-iphone-form-factor/

Bottom line: You're more than welcome to trust Bloomberg. I don't.

 

[cmaier]

Actually, yes. It would be a good time to simply call it "iPhone" and be done with all the stupid suffixes.

They would be selling iPhone 4's for cheap instead of iphone 3g's, and it would get pretty confusing.

 

[mccldwll]

fanboy much?

Actually, he's probably a troll, or worse. Here's another of his posts:

"Dude i can sell u an ipad for 250 a 2nd gen...

Dude i can sell u an ipad for 250
a 2nd gen w/facetime & smart cover all for 250 sealed brandnew never been opened@!!"

Anyone who believes that, PM me and I've got a good deal on a bridge for you. The general known scam is that when you contact these "honest purveyors" they say that the one they had has just been sold, but that they buy them all the time on a certain penny auction site for even less than that. And then, out of the kindness of their hearts, they offer to tell you a secret on how to bid so that you'll win. Except you'll lose. Big.
It's either that, or he's just plain lying.

 

[captain kaos]

I believe this article from Bloomberg much more than BGR's sensationalist viewer grabbing headlines from yesterday. I don't think the iPhone 5 will look any different than the 4, which is such a beautiful design.

As for the iPad 3 ... 1/3 res bump seems a bit strange, but I'm not paying attention to any iPad 3 rumours until after January.

Im hoping its the same design. I missed out the iphone 4 (due to going to the dark side, BB) and when i see a 4 i like it, its what i'd like to go back to after finding that the grass isn't always greener!

 

[captain kaos]

Apple? Bigger screen or I'm going to Android. How archaic will you be with your tiny little screen. It's so small compared to almost every phone out there. I hope you have woken up Steve and put a bigger screen on the new phone.

I don't know, it gets to a point when these things are to big to put in your pocket. I quite the size of the current screen.

 

[captain kaos]

Wait a minute... Apple has been offering the cheaper "last year" model for the past 3 years. Obviously it works... since the old-ass 3GS is still a top seller today.

I think the 3GS would be a perfect candidate for your non-contract or prepaid plan. It's older... slower... and doesn't have that great Retina display.

Surely that's enough to differentiate it from the new iPhone.

Plus... if the $49 3GS hasn't tarnished Apple's premium brand by now... I don't think it ever will.

But let's be real... would you really buy a 2 year old 3GS for $300? I understand the "no contract" thing... but if you did plan on using the same carrier for at least 2 years... why not spend only $200 and get the newest iPhone?

Can you still believe that Apple Australia is selling the 3gs (8gb) for $719, only $140 less than the 16gb iphone 4!

 

[captain kaos]

Good luck with the fragmentation and half baked apps.

Me on the other hand, well I own an iPad so if I feel the need for a larger screen such as right now, this comes in quite handy!

Exactly, i like the size of the iphone 4 screen, i don't want to be feeling that im carrying a large, glass screened ipad in my pocket!

 

[captain kaos]

First, your source says "the details aren't public." So why do YOU think it's a good idea to make them public? Have you no sense of right and wrong at all?

Second, Bloomberg, you've said almost nothing. Gee, the new iPhone will be faster and have a better camera? Anyone could have guessed that months ago. That's hardly a scoop.

MacRumors: the fact that Bloomberg says the same thing that someone else says about an Apple release is not the same as "confirming" it. Only Apple can "confirm" it.

Angry much??!

 

[Jagardn]

Wow! 3TB TC (50 % capacity increase), 8MP camera in iPhone, new Final Cut Pro (for amateurs), 30% increase in iPad screen (reaching the resolution of XOOM and Galaxy Tab 10.1). This year Apple is setting World on fire!

I need a XOOM and a Galaxy Tab so all 3 apps available for them will be in HD!

 

[Paulshaqz]

Dont care about edge to edge screen, I would like a bigger screen though. Maybe a different form factor.

agreed i would love to see a 4 inch screen.

 

[ardent73]

Do I need to draw a diagram?

You mean other than the fact that Apple never makes them public before they announce them at one of their events?

Confused? Apple had a WWDC event where they announced iOS 5 but not an iPhone 5... I heard about it, have you?

Calm down, I'm not claiming to have inside information, etc, just saying that when you look for a rational explanation for events, you usually can find one.

If being rational and thoughtful is forbidden, please tell me, oh wait, I guess you just did.

(I miss the old days of the internet/web when you could post something and NOT be attacked for saying the sky is blue...)

 

[Geckotek]

Sorry if it was already mentioned, a big reason that iPhone 5 and iPad 3 were delayed being made public is because of the Apple lawsuit with Samsung.

Confused? Apple had a WWDC event where they announced iOS 5 but not an iPhone 5... I heard about it, have you?

Calm down, I'm not claiming to have inside information, etc, just saying that when you look for a rational explanation for events, you usually can find one.

If being rational and thoughtful is forbidden, please tell me, oh wait, I guess you just did.

(I miss the old days of the internet/web when you could post something and NOT be attacked for saying the sky is blue...)

Rational thought? Where? You said in your first quote that the iPhone 5 was being delayed being made public at WWDC because of the lawsuit. If it were to have been made public during WWDC, it would have been launched shortly after as Apple always does. Do you see an iPhone launch being launched? I don't.

The reason it wasn't announced at WWDC had nothing to do with Samsung. It had everything to do with Apple not wanting to launch in June, July, or August. Therefore, we will see an announcement at their next event and a launch shortly after....as we always do.

Saying the sky is blue is fine. You just implied it was bright green.

Dont care about edge to edge screen, I would like a bigger screen though. Maybe a different form factor.

If it gets any bigger you might as well carry around a tablet. I don't want some giant phone in my pocket. No bigger than the current form factor please or I will no longer be buying Apple.

Edge to edge screen would be very nice though.

 

[X5-452]

No Tally. But Bloom's financial reporting when it comes to aapl has been questionable for years (Gugliemo often citing Abramsky with his RIMM conflict and Toni the Tool for aapl info). As far as recent reporting (which obviously could eventually be true in spite of NYT statement):

http://www.edibleapple.com/new-report-says-apple-is-not-working-on-a-smaller-iphone-form-factor/

Bottom line: You're more than welcome to trust Bloomberg. I don't.

I've actually been thinking that.

They did it with the iPod line. They stopped referring to them as 1st gen / 2nd gen, and just started saying "iPod nano" or "iPod touch" and "iPod classic"

They all have generation numbers attached to them for support file purposes, but none of them are advertised as "iPod touch 3rd generation can FaceTime like no other iPod..."

I think "The all new iPhone" is how it'll be on their website and in print.

 

[KnightWRX]

They would be selling iPhone 4's for cheap instead of iphone 3g's, and it would get pretty confusing.

Uh ? No, just rename the whole line-up, iPhone. Sell the cheap one with A4 processor, the expensive one with A5 processor.

Same as any other product line-up they have bar the iPad.

 

[mccldwll]

Apparently my friend who works at BestBuy tried the new iPhone 5 and apparently it has a keyboard.... well, atleast that's what he said.

 

[LinksAwakener]

Uh ? No, just rename the whole line-up, iPhone. Sell the cheap one with A4 processor, the expensive one with A5 processor.

Same as any other product line-up they have bar the iPad.

I see what you're trying to say, but completely disagree. Unfortunately the iPhone isn't like any other product they offer. No other product line has two completely different models without accompanying that with a different name (MacBook vs. MacBook Pro). All their other products are simply defined with their capacity. Apple actually sells two different generations at the same time when it comes to the iPhone. It makes more sense to label the different generations.

Now, if they scrap the old generation entirely, but sell three versions of the newest iPhone I can see where you're coming from. iPhone 8GB, 16GB and 32GB where the 8GB has an A4 proc, the 16 and 32 have an A5 proc, and they all have the same form. This would make sense. But when the products themselves differ, marketing shows you need to label them differently (and more than just by capacity).

Apparently my friend who works at BestBuy tried the new iPhone 5 and apparently it has a keyboard.... well, atleast that's what he said.

And obviously Best Buy employees are totally trusting when it comes to completely unreleased, unannounced products.

 

[korndawg]

Rational thought? Where? You said in your first quote that the iPhone 5 was being delayed being made public at WWDC because of the lawsuit. If it were to have been made public during WWDC, it would have been launched shortly after as Apple always does. Do you see an iPhone launch being launched? I don't.

The reason it wasn't announced at WWDC had nothing to do with Samsung. It had everything to do with Apple not wanting to launch in June, July, or August. Therefore, we will see an announcement at their next event and a launch shortly after....as we always do.

Saying the sky is blue is fine. You just implied it was bright green.



If it gets any bigger you might as well carry around a tablet. I don't want some giant phone in my pocket. No bigger than the current form factor please or I will no longer be buying Apple.

Edge to edge screen would be very nice though.

So if they increase it to 4", u may as well carry around a a 9.7" ipad? That's logical.......... I agree that they should not increase the size of the device, but an edge to edge screen that increases the overall screen size would be great.

 

[Geckotek]

So if they increase it to 4", u may as well carry around a a 9.7" ipad? That's logical.......... I agree that they should not increase the size of the device, but an edge to edge screen that increases the overall screen size would be great.

You contradict yourself in disagreeing with me.

To get a 4" screen you must increase the size of the device.