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Bloomberg Confirms September iPhone 5 Launch, Hi-Res iPad 3?

mtcowdog said:
Why can't both reports be right?

Updated iPhone 4 plus a newly designed iPhone 5? Given that we are talking about rumors, I can see the logic in a family of iPhones versus a single iPhone. At least that's what I hope happens! :D
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I've heard other "reports" about Apple doing two iPhones a year... instead of one new and keeping the old.

If that's true... I wonder how they get that started. Two this September? Or one in September and one next Spring?

They already screwed up their usual Summer release schedule...
 
Michael Scrip said:
Wait a minute... Apple has been offering the cheaper "last year" model for the past 3 years. Obviously it works... since the old-ass 3GS is still a top seller today.

I think the 3GS would be a perfect candidate for your non-contract or prepaid plan. It's older... slower... and doesn't have that great Retina display.

Surely that's enough to differentiate it from the new iPhone.

Plus... if the $49 3GS hasn't tarnished Apple's premium brand by now... I don't think it ever will.

But let's be real... would you really buy a 2 year old 3GS for $300? I understand the "no contract" thing... but if you did plan on using the same carrier for at least 2 years... why not spend only $200 and get the newest iPhone?
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There's no $49 3GS, there's a 3GS you pay $49 for and then you're going to have to pay as much for your plan as if you had bought a 4.

The cheapest AT&T plan would cost you $1556 for the 4 and $1406 for the 3GS.
A $300 3GS with a $30 plan would cost you $1020.

But I don't see it as feasible, since a lot of customer can't understand initial cost vs total cost.
 
Preorders

aurichie said:
Apple no longer has a need to do pre-orders for the iPhone or iPad. They know whatever product they announce demand will easily outweigh supply on the day it goes on sale.
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Apple likes the first day sales to be larger than the previous versions 1st day sales. Because preorders are included in first day sales it would be hard to see Apple saying that even though all of the retail outlets sold twice as many iPhones/iPads as the previous version first day sales were down 60% from thee previous release. That really makes good ad copy.
 
MacRumors said:
Bloomberg's sources also report that Apple is testing a version of the iPad that has a "higher resolution screen, similar to the one now used in the iPhone 4". From here, Bloomberg references older rumors that Apple might be working on a cheaper iPhone aimed at attracting customers in developing countries. They seem to believe that work is continuing on this low-end iPhone.

Finally, they report that the resolution of the new iPad would be "about one-third higher" than the iPad 2. Such a small increase would be a surprise as Apple's method for increasing resolution on the iPhone was to double each dimension to offer simple scaling for apps. It's been expected that Apple might adopt the same technique in the iPad 3, though technical hurdles may exist for such high resolution displays.
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These rumors seem true.
What caught my attention was the 1/3 height increase. This could indicate that Apple finally realized that using glue on the iPad 2 was a terrible idea, and may be now going back to using clips to hold the display.
Also the increased resolution to compete with the "other" tablets seems like a reasonable and expected move.
 
danielowenuk said:
Apple sells most of its phones in month 1-2 of release.

As such most people's (with an iphone) renewal is around the same time of the year
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That's not entirely true... not recently anyway.

Apple sold 18.65 million iPhones in Q2 of this year... and that's a full 6-8 months after the iPhone 4 originally came out.

That's more than either Q3 (8.4 million) and Q4 (14.1 million) of last year when the iPhone 4 was much newer.

I don't know what the breakdown was between iPhone 4 and 3GS... but the fact that the 3GS is still a strong seller only proves this point:

iPhones sell phenomenally well ALL year.
 
Finally looking forward to upgrading from my original 3G, an upgrade that is definitely in order. But, still seems to be conflicting information about what the phone's design will end up being. Some have said it will resemble the 4, others say the screen will cover more of the phone and they will try to eliminate the edges. Who knows at this point. But this will certainly be in time for my upgrade.
 
AaronEdwards said:
There's no $49 3GS, there's a 3GS you pay $49 for and then you're going to have to pay as much for your plan as if you had bought a 4.

The cheapest AT&T plan would cost you $1556 for the 4 and $1406 for the 3GS.
A $300 3GS with a $30 plan would cost you $1020.

But I don't see it as feasible, since a lot of customer can't understand initial cost vs total cost.
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Like I said... that's what Apple and the carriers are selling the 3GS for.

I know the difference for sure... and I certainly wouldn't go for an old 3GS when I could have an iPhone 4.

But if you wanna get technical... there are no "free" phones on contract either. You will end up paying for it eventually.

Why would someone get the crappy free Motorola Citrus instead of the $249 Thunderbolt?

I guess there's a sucker born every minute!
 
AaronEdwards said:
There's no $49 3GS, there's a 3GS you pay $49 for and then you're going to have to pay as much for your plan as if you had bought a 4.

The cheapest AT&T plan would cost you $1556 for the 4 and $1406 for the 3GS.
A $300 3GS with a $30 plan would cost you $1020.

But I don't see it as feasible, since a lot of customer can't understand initial cost vs total cost.
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Technically speaking, the cheapest you can get away with is the $10 add-on family plan, plus data, which comes out to be $600 over two years. Remember the target consumer: the early-adopter iPhone owners are traditionally young and single (as a rule of thumb anyway). Those that pick up the discounted older model are (again, only as a rule of thumb) on family plans. A mom isn't going to drop $200 on a phone for her, let alone her children, but $50 is much more reasonable.

Please take the above with a grain of salt. I worked in sales, and that was in fact the traditional model for selling the iPhone, but does not fit all cases. I hope that's obvious.
 
September Confirmed?

I was speaking to an apparant Lawyer for Apple UK yesterday who was upgrading his personal contract to a Sim only term as he would be taking a new handset in September. This seems to tie in with today's news of an expected iPhone 5 launch in September.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
These rumors seem true.
What caught my attention was the 1/3 height increase. This could indicate that Apple finally realized that using glue on the iPad 2 was a terrible idea, and may be now going back to using clips to hold the display.
Also the increased resolution to compete with the "other" tablets seems like a reasonable and expected move.
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Height increase? What on earth are you talking about? The 1/3 increase is in the resolution not the physical size. This fact alone make the rumor seem very dubious. Developers would probably not be too excited about such a change.
 
beebler said:
Like I've said before, my friend at Apple R&D also said they're gunning for a new iPhone and new iPad release side by side in September.

Hard to believe but that's what was being said at Apple.
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Yeah, we all believe you.
 
suggymoto said:
I was speaking to an apparant Lawyer for Apple UK yesterday who was upgrading his personal contract to a Sim only term as he would be taking a new handset in September. This seems to tie in with today's news of an expected iPhone 5 launch in September.
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What is an Apparant lawyer ?
 
Michael Scrip said:
I've heard other "reports" about Apple doing two iPhones a year... instead of one new and keeping the old.

If that's true... I wonder how they get that started. Two this September? Or one in September and one next Spring?

They already screwed up their usual Summer release schedule...
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Since the Summer release is already hosed I would expect something special in September.
How bout 2 in September and no iPod Touch or it might be a Phat Touch but not as we now know it.
 
Blorzoga said:
Height increase? What on earth are you talking about? The 1/3 increase is in the resolution not the physical size. This fact alone make the rumor seem very dubious. Developers would probably not be too excited about such a change.
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Oops, my bad. I misread. I just wish Apple goes back to the clipping system, and stops using glue.

Developers will not care about the increased resolution, as it maintains it's 4:3 aspect ratio. iOS will take care of seamlessly scaling the application. Also, keep in mind this has already happened with the iPhone 4, and I never ran into a developer complaining about it.
 
I'm disappointed to keep hearing about the 8 MP camera. I would much prefer the current 5 MP camera. But in the end it won't be that big of a deal.
 
Talk about an iPad 3? Not in 2011. Steve Jobs said so himself that this year will be the year of the iPad 2, so can we drop the nonsense about iPad 3 this year?

Also, iPhone 5 to have only an A5 and an 8MP camera after over 1 year of waiting? lol, i find that really hard to believe, and if that is true then i'll be heavily disappointed at Apple.
 
Know what I love?

I love that if I use a question mark at the end of a sentence, I can say anything I want?

Next iPhone to be powered by the magic of rainbows?
 
i skipped ipad 2 cause of the low rez screen and i will not get another ipad until it has retina quality or better.. iphone 4s is suppesed to have bigger screen also if it does not i will keep iphone4 until there is an iphone with a bigger screen..
 
It's so strange how many Apple haters hang out on this website. I don't even know the name of a phone that runs Android. Droid maybe? X? HTC Galaxy? I don't know. I couldn't imagine wasting my time trolling their forums all day long, if they even have forums.
 
Jimmy James said:
I'm disappointed to keep hearing about the 8 MP camera. I would much prefer the current 5 MP camera. But in the end it won't be that big of a deal.
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OK, your going to have to explain the rational behind your disappointment. Are you normally disappointed when things get upgraded? :)

Reach9 said:
Steve Jobs said so himself that this year will be the year of the iPad 2, so can we drop the nonsense about iPad 3 this year?
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Why do people keep quoting this comment by Steve as though it was some definitive statement on the future release dates of the next version. He was obviously just saying that it was going to be wildly successful.
 
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phpmaven said:
OK, your going to have to explain the rational behind your disappointment. Are you normally disappointed when things get upgraded? :)
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I don't consider it an upgrade to cram more pixels in an already teeny-tiny sensor.

Plus... see Megapixel Myth

Also... do we really need 3264x2468 images from a phone?
 
Even though this site is called MacRUMORS, I'm tired of these rumors. Two big news names posting two completely different rumors on iPhones and iPads.

I call ******** on both of them and they're just taking educated guessing on the next generation devices.
 
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