this 9.5mm one, though a tray is also nice
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BLU-RAY On the Next Generation Mac Laptops: 2 "Pro" by 1 "Con"
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this 9.5mm one, though a tray is also nice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...fc9f494&itemid=320472390388&ff4=263602_263622
9.5 mm slot blue-rays is a question of near future, but i suspect apple will rluctant to ship BR anyways - just to lock people with their online content facilities.
the proof link:
http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html
there is no BR on iMac or even Macpro - so, the size care is not an argument
I guess apple will never get Blu-ray, cause if they would they already would have it.
I'm do want to have Blu-ray. Cause now when I edit my movie and want to see it on my big screen I have to attach my macbook to see it in HD, while I have a Playstation 3 that can do it and is always there.
I'm do want to have Blu-ray. Cause now when I edit my movie and want to see it on my big screen I have to attach my macbook to see it in HD, while I have a Playstation 3 that can do it and is always there.
I voted yes since there was no "ditching the optical alternative".
If they are going to include an optical drive let people have the option to get blu ray. Apparently a lot of people would want that.
I wouldn't pay extra money for a blu ray drive.
If they are going to include an optical drive let people have the option to get blu ray. Apparently a lot of people would want that.
I wouldn't pay extra money for a blu ray drive.
anybody else annoyed when people call it "blue" ray? i find it hard to believe you actually need it if you don't even know how to spell it.
I didn't vote because there was no "I don't care" choice. Otherwise, I suppose the choice would be for Apple to provide the choice, and I'd support that as long as it didn't affect the cost of MY next MBP purchase.
Thank you for the poll. It's Blu Ray not Blue Ray btw.
ps: YES! I want to see it alongside...
Intel i5/i7 Processor
A Significantly Higher Resolution Screen (1920×1080 Resolution in a High End 15" MBP)
The ATI 5850 GPU (Or any current gen (DirectX 11) mobile GPU with either GDDR5 Memory or a 256-bit Memory Bus)
Updated Display Port With Audio Output Support and/or HDMI port
An improved HD resolution iSight Video Camera
USB 3.0
And here is the upgrade that would be a dream come true and be a knock out killing blow to all other competing laptops...
Apple putting in an 8 GB NAND memory IC. Bought in a reel of 1000, each such card only costs a grand total of $10. Integrated into the spot where the old north bridge used to be, apple could not only have switchable graphics but also hybrid drives on each of its systems. By shutting down the harddrive and using the flash module for most activities could result in vastly faster performance and longer battery life. Put the OS on there and you could be enjoying what, 10 hours of battery life and (instantanous) boot times. I could wait another month for that.
Blu Ray is mainstream now. They offer fantastic backup options for video editors and scientists who have to store huge amounts of data. No one aside from Steve Jobs has the Gigabit Internet speeds needed to be able to stream or download in under four hours a 1080p resolution video from iTunes. There's 80 Million Players in the market already and every single year Blu Ray sales are increasing by 100% and now already stand at 10% of all video sales.
High end consumers are the lifeblood of Apple's profits. The average person buys the $1100 MBP if they want a laptop. It's the high end consumers that buy the $3000 MBP with everything maxed out. So it's those high end consumers that account for Apple's highest profit margins. And it's precisely those same consumers that are likely to have blu ray movies and want to be able to watch them on their laptops.
I'm such a consumer. I have a number of blu rays that I want to watch on the go. I'll be buying a $2000+ high end laptop this year and I won't even be considering a MBP if they don't feature the blu ray drive in the next update. I'm just waiting to see what the next update has in store but I'll likely be picking up the Sony Vaio Z if Apple fails to deliver. The fact is, if Apple wants to sell high profit margins. If apple to attract the kinds of people that don't mind dropping $3000 on a laptop to get the specs maxed out. Then Apple needs to play ball and give those same high end consumers the features they desire. And yes, I guarentee that almost everyone of these high end consumers has a HDTV or two, atleast one blu ray player, and several blu ray movies that they want to be able watch on their laptop in 1080p when away from home.
Best Buy had been selling a Gateway with an i5 Processor, a high resolution screen, a dedicated ATI 5850 graphics card and a Blu Ray Drive with a DVD Burner for $680 as the retail price this whole weekend! Many people have Blu Ray movies and want to be able to watch them in beautiful 1080p resolution on their laptops.
I think the longer Apple goes without catching up to the technology offered in sub $500 laptops, the more bad press they're going to get from tech saavy consumers. Just think about it, I don't care if it is an Apple product, a $2500 product being outperformed by a sub $500 product is outragous.
Blu Ray Drives are dead cheap, they're now in the sub $50 price range for manufacturers buying in bulk. Blu Ray Movies are also dead cheap. Sony introducted a new pricing structure to lower the price of blu ray discs. Gohastings.com has been regularly selling brand new blu ray releases in mint condition for sub $12-15 prices. Netflix offers a blu ray version of all new releases these days. HDTVs are everywhere. And more and more consumers will be picking up Blu Rays as these lower prices propagate.
To anyone who thinks that hd resolution doesn't matter bc their laptop screen is only 13" or 15." People only sit a foot from a laptop (even closer if you're on a flight). If you think at that distance you can't see the huge difference between 480p and 720p, get ready to have your mind blown.
Take one look at these comparison screen shots between dvd and blu ray on just a six inch picture/screen and try and tell me you can't see a difference on a 6 inch laptop, much less a 13 inch laptop.
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=804
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=761
To further prove my point, take a laptop and change the screen resolution on it right now down to 720x480 resolution (480p, the max resolution DVDs play at). Odds are, it won't even go that low so change the resolution down to 800x600 (600p) atleast. Then come back here and tell me with a straight face that the resolution downgrade isn't significant.
ps: YES! I want to see it alongside...
Intel i5/i7 Processor
A Significantly Higher Resolution Screen (1920×1080 Resolution in a High End 15" MBP)
The ATI 5850 GPU (Or any current gen (DirectX 11) mobile GPU with either GDDR5 Memory or a 256-bit Memory Bus)
Updated Display Port With Audio Output Support and/or HDMI port
An improved HD resolution iSight Video Camera
USB 3.0
And here is the upgrade that would be a dream come true and be a knock out killing blow to all other competing laptops...
Apple putting in an 8 GB NAND memory IC. Bought in a reel of 1000, each such card only costs a grand total of $10. Integrated into the spot where the old north bridge used to be, apple could not only have switchable graphics but also hybrid drives on each of its systems. By shutting down the harddrive and using the flash module for most activities could result in vastly faster performance and longer battery life. Put the OS on there and you could be enjoying what, 10 hours of battery life and (instantanous) boot times. I could wait another month for that.
Blu Ray is mainstream now. They offer fantastic backup options for video editors and scientists who have to store huge amounts of data. No one aside from Steve Jobs has the Gigabit Internet speeds needed to be able to stream or download in under four hours a 1080p resolution video from iTunes. There's 80 Million Players in the market already and every single year Blu Ray sales are increasing by 100% and now already stand at 10% of all video sales.
High end consumers are the lifeblood of Apple's profits. The average person buys the $1100 MBP if they want a laptop. It's the high end consumers that buy the $3000 MBP with everything maxed out. So it's those high end consumers that account for Apple's highest profit margins. And it's precisely those same consumers that are likely to have blu ray movies and want to be able to watch them on their laptops.
I'm such a consumer. I have a number of blu rays that I want to watch on the go. I'll be buying a $2000+ high end laptop this year and I won't even be considering a MBP if they don't feature the blu ray drive in the next update. I'm just waiting to see what the next update has in store but I'll likely be picking up the Sony Vaio Z if Apple fails to deliver. The fact is, if Apple wants to sell high profit margins. If apple to attract the kinds of people that don't mind dropping $3000 on a laptop to get the specs maxed out. Then Apple needs to play ball and give those same high end consumers the features they desire. And yes, I guarentee that almost everyone of these high end consumers has a HDTV or two, atleast one blu ray player, and several blu ray movies that they want to be able watch on their laptop in 1080p when away from home.
Best Buy had been selling a Gateway with an i5 Processor, a high resolution screen, a dedicated ATI 5850 graphics card and a Blu Ray Drive with a DVD Burner for $680 as the retail price this whole weekend! Many people have Blu Ray movies and want to be able to watch them in beautiful 1080p resolution on their laptops.
I think the longer Apple goes without catching up to the technology offered in sub $500 laptops, the more bad press they're going to get from tech saavy consumers. Just think about it, I don't care if it is an Apple product, a $2500 product being outperformed by a sub $500 product is outragous.
Blu Ray Drives are dead cheap, they're now in the sub $50 price range for manufacturers buying in bulk. Blu Ray Movies are also dead cheap. Sony introducted a new pricing structure to lower the price of blu ray discs. Gohastings.com has been regularly selling brand new blu ray releases in mint condition for sub $12-15 prices. Netflix offers a blu ray version of all new releases these days. HDTVs are everywhere. And more and more consumers will be picking up Blu Rays as these lower prices propagate.
To anyone who thinks that hd resolution doesn't matter bc their laptop screen is only 13" or 15." People only sit a foot from a laptop (even closer if you're on a flight). If you think at that distance you can't see the huge difference between 480p and 720p, get ready to have your mind blown.
Take one look at these comparison screen shots between dvd and blu ray on just a six inch picture/screen and try and tell me you can't see a difference on a 6 inch laptop, much less a 13 inch laptop.
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=804
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=761
To further prove my point, take a laptop and change the screen resolution on it right now down to 720x480 resolution (480p, the max resolution DVDs play at). Odds are, it won't even go that low so change the resolution down to 800x600 (600p) atleast. Then come back here and tell me with a straight face that the resolution downgrade isn't significant.
You are welcome. I'd love to see this poll has a legal power
.And thanks for your many relevant arguments.
PS I would like to see BR on 13" models as well - to have a portable computer on one side and
be able to watch HD movs on HD/HiRes screens on the other.
Must be an arsehole to take on the train.
Edit: Voted yes. Nothing wrong with extra options. Seems bizarre that anyone would choose anything different.
Given I have a PS3 and have hardly even watched Blu Ray on my big screen TV, I can't see much use in a BD drive... and they're known to be fragile too ie. failures are not uncommon.
Never understood the need to watch movies on a laptop, even if I wanted to, DVD quality is plenty fine for me.
I would like a more reliable SuperDrive - still had issues burning DL DVDs in mine, vs. using an external DL DVD writer, which worked just fine.
Never understood the need to watch movies on a laptop, even if I wanted to, DVD quality is plenty fine for me.
I would like a more reliable SuperDrive - still had issues burning DL DVDs in mine, vs. using an external DL DVD writer, which worked just fine.
Everytime I hear people say, "I don't want Bluray," the only image that comes to my mind is fanboy hogwash. Bluray is soon going to be the foundation of the physical media realm. I understand Jobs' inclination towards non-physical media. At least support for Blu-Ray software-wise would be ideal, and providing the use of external Blu-Ray drives would make things pointed in the right track. A lack of both, in my opinion, seems arrogant.
Yes, in the Apple town hall meeting.
I'm confident that Apple will implement whatever technology is necessary and in time to be competitive.
my ideology is that customers should in some cases dictate manufacturers the properties to be implemented before they are
I agree a successful corporation will get that way by listening to its customers and implementing what they desire. Too bad Apple will never be a successful corporation, I guess...
My stack of Blu-ray movies says different. I just want some way of watching them on my laptop, I don't care if it's not going to be in 1080p on a 13". I just don't want to have to buy a DVD copy and a Blu-ray copy.
Whats the harm in making it an option?
if you do not need it - stay with DVD during the order - it's simple.
but why do you want to decide for others what them order???
for me it's a sort of bolshevism...
PS compared to flashdrives, BR has a very different functionality. e.g. it cannot be damaged by magnetic fields. and the prices will drop for them according the popularity.