would be good to force politically (sometimes) the enetrprises to listen the customers.
at least for Microsoft these antimonopoly lessons were successful - it now seems more open than Allpe.
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BLU-RAY On the Next Generation Mac Laptops: 2 "Pro" by 1 "Con"
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would be good to force politically (sometimes) the enetrprises to listen the customers.
at least for Microsoft these antimonopoly lessons were successful - it now seems more open than Allpe.
Wikoogle
BR is not and never will come to the MBP's
First off it's basically going to completely knacker the battery life
Spinning a disc AND decoding it at the same time.....pretty sure you'll be pissed off when you can't even get to the end of one BR and you've taken half your movie collection in your bag.
You don't seem to be able to grasp that downloading a 720p version for your lappy is going to be way better and way more efficient..and because you aren't going to be more than 5 feet away from your laptop when watching it, it won't make a blind bit of difference on a laptop screen.
As I said in your other post, you are pissing in the wind to even think half those things will be present in the year end MBP's let alone next weeks announcement.
/Get off my lawn
PS My no, is for the increased costs on components and therefore higher price plus the reduction in battery life.
BR is not and never will come to the MBP's
First off it's basically going to completely knacker the battery life
Spinning a disc AND decoding it at the same time.....pretty sure you'll be pissed off when you can't even get to the end of one BR and you've taken half your movie collection in your bag.
You don't seem to be able to grasp that downloading a 720p version for your lappy is going to be way better and way more efficient..and because you aren't going to be more than 5 feet away from your laptop when watching it, it won't make a blind bit of difference on a laptop screen.
As I said in your other post, you are pissing in the wind to even think half those things will be present in the year end MBP's let alone next weeks announcement.
/Get off my lawn
PS My no, is for the increased costs on components and therefore higher price plus the reduction in battery life.
Fixed.
All the logical inconsistencies and factual mistakes that you made in your previous post have now been corrected. You're welcome.
First comment is pointless: I and many do not need BR for working offline - so the battery is not an issuse. The regular DVD function of BR cost the same.
Towards uslessness of this poll - correct, Apple will not listen it: either one week before the announcement, or one year. My intention was to clarify what Apple customers - not Aplle want...
PS Which battery life Aplle cares of in the iMac and Mac Pro desktops
??? Steve clearly put there wil no BR on any hardware.
when I am speaking about "choice during the order" it means that extra costs will be payed by those who need BR and will not by those who do not.
at the hardware level it will be no problem as soon as 9.5mm slot-BR arrive.
at the software level the situation is well-solved by the MS camp.
also, roxio does most of the job right now - even for Apple.
Fair enough on the actual drive but how about the hardware decoder in the GPU? Apple aren't going to run out a specific gpu for it which would mean a new mainboard.
Wikoogle...nice link. You got one that shows the difference between 720p (which are manageable download sizes) and 1080p?
Good choice as well on choosing a 30 year old film...thats been given the enhancement treatment.
what do you mean? even chippest integrated graphic card from Intel do support HD playback.
The ongoing lack of support for Blu-Ray is perhaps the one place where the bars of Apple's gilded cage are most readily visible.
It's clearly a decision Apple makes in the interests of the iTunes business model, and to the detriment of Mac users. The "bag of hurt" doesn't hurt us; it hurts Apple's bottom line.
Don't look for Blu-Ray in any Mac.
It's clearly a decision Apple makes in the interests of the iTunes business model, and to the detriment of Mac users. The "bag of hurt" doesn't hurt us; it hurts Apple's bottom line.
Don't look for Blu-Ray in any Mac.
that exactly what amused me so much
. in commenst above, i compared this to bolshevism...well, they might suspect that the option to have BR will lift the price for the non-BR uits, but in fact this is not the case
Both that DVD and blu Ray were given the enhancement treatment, but since you asked here is a more recent comparison. There's dozens of them on that site...
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=761
(use your current MacBook pro and you can see how big a difference the higher resolution makes even on something as small as a six inch screen)
ps: why are you so adamant that we all have to repurchase all our blu Ray movies all over again just to watch them on the MBP, esp when so many of us are tied down with horrible ISPs that impose low speeds and bandwidth caps.
this is not scientific but proof that adoption is high in the US
My local blockbusters in San Diego... Have increased shelf space for Bluray discs by 300% in the past year. At the rate they are expanding their Bluray selection, it will take over DVD's in their store in shelf space by the end of this year.
My local blockbusters in San Diego... Have increased shelf space for Bluray discs by 300% in the past year. At the rate they are expanding their Bluray selection, it will take over DVD's in their store in shelf space by the end of this year.
I would like the option to have a blu-ray drive along with the option to have no disc drive. It should be either an add-on blu-ray drive or nothing. DVD needs to die already.
I'm not even going to comment on the morons who DON'T want an option.
HP Envy does it right.
I'm not even going to comment on the morons who DON'T want an option.
HP Envy does it right.
I agree completely. Both options should be available. When you pick the no disc drive option though, do you think Apple could retool the design a bit to fit two seperate hdd enclosures in the space freed up by removing the disc drive, or alteast, BOTH a hdd enclosure and a bigger battery.
It seems unlikely though. But if they don't, then there is no real advantage to picking that no dis drive option than to order the $20 part (enclosure) off of ebay and do the mod yourself. It seems like the mod only takes about 10 minutes to do.
It's pretty axiomatic that any company that doesn't listen to its customers won't survive.
Apple doesn't have a monopoly. They happen to own the copyright to the OS that you want to use. Not the same thing.
I voted no. I don't think Apple should offer a blu-ray as an option. It should be standard, not an option. Give us a BD-ROM Combo drive with DVD-RW capabilities. If Apple prides itself on producing high-end tech that people want, then at least keep up with the times and stop limiting us for your own benefit (iTunes trash).
It should be an option at the very least. I'd make it standard on Mac Pro, high-end iMacs now (it's long overdue). When slim slot-loading drives are available the drives can be incorporated into laptops too.
Almost all my recent film purchases have been on Blu-ray. I can watch them in my living room, but not on my Mac. I don't want to have to buy the same film on DVD so I can watch it in other rooms or away from home. iTMS has a very small collection of films compared to Blu-ray (at least in the UK) and the file size and download times make it unattractive for HD content.
And how do I get HD from Final Cut to other people to play? Being able to burn to BD would be great.
And let's not forget backup. Time Machine is great, but I still like to keep a read-only copy of my photos etc. at another location and BD capacity makes them ideal for this.
Personally I think it's a no-brainer. Blu-ray is now widely used and it's time Apple supported it.
Almost all my recent film purchases have been on Blu-ray. I can watch them in my living room, but not on my Mac. I don't want to have to buy the same film on DVD so I can watch it in other rooms or away from home. iTMS has a very small collection of films compared to Blu-ray (at least in the UK) and the file size and download times make it unattractive for HD content.
And how do I get HD from Final Cut to other people to play? Being able to burn to BD would be great.
And let's not forget backup. Time Machine is great, but I still like to keep a read-only copy of my photos etc. at another location and BD capacity makes them ideal for this.
Personally I think it's a no-brainer. Blu-ray is now widely used and it's time Apple supported it.
it doesn't make much sense to have a laptop with additional optical media space without the media. or at least it should be convertedable to another HDD or battery area. however, this should be (and already is) realized in smaller form-factors.
Good examples (though not always ideal) of this approach are Dell Adamo, Latitude Z and Vostro V13. Castrated MB Air is a bad example.
Would I like a choice to have a BR option... yes.
Will there be an option during the next refresh... not a chance.
Will there be an option during the next refresh... not a chance.
well it is effectively the monopoly in the sense that they bind there OSX (i like) to their hardware (i mostly dislike) only.
i do not see the problem to pay for OSX even more than for MS - but running on an arbitrary PC.
if they were more open-mided they would easily make more money on OSX than on their (often deficient) hardw.
perhaps there is even some conspiracy affair with Microsoft.
BTW, customer's demand for the OSX on non-apple comnputers would be another nice poll.