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Blue Tint vs Yellow Tint Iphone 4 Screen - Short Review/Comparison (Shocker Alert)
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Duuuuude, you can't capture the color temperature with a screenshot. It's not software.
Did you take any pics of your yellow screen? I can't imagine Apple really doing this. Why on Earth would they open 30 boxes to replace a phone with a screen that is perfectly fine? It's not like the blue one is better than the yellow one or something.
That is what the guy told me and the displays are not yellow tinted. He said it shouldn't be like that.
Duuuuude, you can't capture the color temperature with a screenshot. It's not software.
Did you take any pics of your yellow screen? I can't imagine Apple really doing this. Why on Earth would they open 30 boxes to replace a phone with a screen that is perfectly fine? It's not like the blue one is better than the yellow one or something.
Sorry, I don't have another camera available to take a shot of my iPhone screen. Maybe I'll just swing by a local Apple store and compare my device to their displayed ones. Sorry again...
Now that I have the blue screen again, like the displays. I do notice pictures like better on the yellow tinted screen. I dont use pictures that much but they look a lot better. Not the whites though. If you like taking pictures, id keep the yellow tinted one for sure.
Doesn't matter really what anyone prefers. Fact of the matter is the OP is correct in the fact that a warmer hue (yellowish) is the correct standard for video and photo reproduction. Professional Photo Retoucher myself and on my correctly calibrated $4000 monitor the correct hue will be warmer. Correctly calibrated Televison set- warm again.
Not to say that the iPhone screen is meant to be yellow but, if it is meant to be more of a cooler hue it is simply to pacify the masses who believe that a cooler hue makes "images" pop. Same reason you go into Best Buy and all the displays are cranked to the highest brightness and contrast ratios and the color is set to "sports" settings. it may pop to you but, it's not realistic in the sense of professional standards. You may view a warmer, less bright and contrasty screen as odd at first, but once your eyes adjust, you can noticeably tell the improvement. And after that you can spot a poorly calibrated monitor or display a mile away.
All that said my iPhone is neither really blue nor yellow it just kind of sits in the middle somewhere. At the same time if anyone is expecting a smart phone to have the display capabilites of a high end display, it ain't happening. Sure it looks nice for a portable device but, not much more- awesome marketing though. Same goes for people who wonder why their iPhone's photos don't look as brilliant as a high end SLR.
Not to say that the iPhone screen is meant to be yellow but, if it is meant to be more of a cooler hue it is simply to pacify the masses who believe that a cooler hue makes "images" pop. Same reason you go into Best Buy and all the displays are cranked to the highest brightness and contrast ratios and the color is set to "sports" settings. it may pop to you but, it's not realistic in the sense of professional standards. You may view a warmer, less bright and contrasty screen as odd at first, but once your eyes adjust, you can noticeably tell the improvement. And after that you can spot a poorly calibrated monitor or display a mile away.
All that said my iPhone is neither really blue nor yellow it just kind of sits in the middle somewhere. At the same time if anyone is expecting a smart phone to have the display capabilites of a high end display, it ain't happening. Sure it looks nice for a portable device but, not much more- awesome marketing though. Same goes for people who wonder why their iPhone's photos don't look as brilliant as a high end SLR.
I agree, Ive had both and I personally like the blue tint better but the yellow tint made images look so much better. I don't use the camera that much though so oh well.
Off topic but the iPod Touch 4th Gen is extremely blue tinted. more blue tinted than any iPhone 4 on display at Apple.
Yes, correctly CALIBRATED screens will have a WARMER color temperature. Not YELLOW.
Now, the iPhone was NOT intentionally designed with a "WARMER" screen to appease the masses. It's a quality control issue clearly. If it was suppose to be that way, there would NOT be so much variation or cooler colored screens. Yellow screens on the iPhone don't POP. They are yellow, washed out and lack clarity. I can attest to this. Trust me. I have seen it with my own two eyes.
Believe what you want. If you think a yellow, washed out screen is for you - go for it. I will NOT accept it, ever.
Unfortunately the line between "warm" and "yellow" is largely subjective. While Im sure that some percentage of screens do exhibit a real problem, I fear that threads like this create an impression that merely warm screens are defective.
Since the very first iPhone in 2007, early batches that I have seen have been predominantly cool with increasing numbers of warm screens appearing over time. Of the 5 launch iPhones that I have owned, all have had cool screens, as do the majority of floor models. This leads to side by side comparisons that may exaggerate the difference by creating a baseline white that is actually blueish.
If you are sensitive to screen color or have a preference to cool vs warm, do yourself a favor and avoid purchasing online if possible. Tell the sales person that you would like to see the device before purchase and explain your concerns. This will allow them to re-sell as new if you reject it. Everyone will leave more satisfied.
Since the very first iPhone in 2007, early batches that I have seen have been predominantly cool with increasing numbers of warm screens appearing over time. Of the 5 launch iPhones that I have owned, all have had cool screens, as do the majority of floor models. This leads to side by side comparisons that may exaggerate the difference by creating a baseline white that is actually blueish.
If you are sensitive to screen color or have a preference to cool vs warm, do yourself a favor and avoid purchasing online if possible. Tell the sales person that you would like to see the device before purchase and explain your concerns. This will allow them to re-sell as new if you reject it. Everyone will leave more satisfied.
Someone's preference of colour is completely irrelevant - this is clearly a major manufacturing/quality control issue that Apple should be ashamed of. [EDIT: Unless they made this change deliberately of course]
I'm amazed how many people here are dismissing this issue on the grounds of "you're being too OCD"; does Apple-loving know no boundaries?
I'm amazed how many people here are dismissing this issue on the grounds of "you're being too OCD"; does Apple-loving know no boundaries?
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Haha +1, LOL at these people who are lying to themselves. Yellow looks better then clear, wow, thats hilarious. Enjoy your pee stained screens, Dbags.
There is yellow -- neutral -- blue. Yellow is obviously inaccurate and possibly a defect, just as blue is inaccurate. Most LCDs have a blue hue and we're used to it, so neutral might look yellow in comparison side-by-side. It's really quite simple, but you need to know a little bit about color accuracy. Anybody who has used desktop LCDs for any kind of serious photography will know the difference since they would have used a hardware calibrator.
I think the real problem here is that Apple most likely has multiple suppliers of LCDs, but doesn't calibrate differently. And, of course, given that it's a phone, there is no way for the user to calibrate the display once it's left the factory. Perhaps that could be done one day, which would enable people to have their screens anyway they like. But then again, how important is accuracy on a phone display?!
I'm not saying that there are not defective screens out there, but I bet you the majority are not. I'm a real screen snob and have sent back many displays and computers for defective LCDs, but I think my iphone's screen (of the warm variety) is spot on. My girlfriend's is slightly warmer to the point of being a little too warm (or call it yellow if you want) for my liking, so I can see that people would like the blue hue that gives the perception of crisper whites.
I think the real problem here is that Apple most likely has multiple suppliers of LCDs, but doesn't calibrate differently. And, of course, given that it's a phone, there is no way for the user to calibrate the display once it's left the factory. Perhaps that could be done one day, which would enable people to have their screens anyway they like. But then again, how important is accuracy on a phone display?!
I'm not saying that there are not defective screens out there, but I bet you the majority are not. I'm a real screen snob and have sent back many displays and computers for defective LCDs, but I think my iphone's screen (of the warm variety) is spot on. My girlfriend's is slightly warmer to the point of being a little too warm (or call it yellow if you want) for my liking, so I can see that people would like the blue hue that gives the perception of crisper whites.
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It's all about the spectrum of the LED
I have recently noticed that the screen on my i4 look more yellowish than the display of my mbp(2010). Naturally, I decided to see if someone else noticed this, and that's how I came across this thread. I would like to say thanks to the people who posted pictures of various screens for comparison. Now I am sure that I wasn't mistaken.
I noticed that some people believe that this yellow tint is due to incorrect calibration. This is not necessarily true. Colour calibration simply balances red, green and blue so they are present in proportions that our brain perceives as white. However, no colour calibration will make an LCD display (as a general category of displays) produce a perfect white coulour. This is because the screen itself only filters out red, green and blue from the backlight, which is nowadays produced by LEDs. The issue is that white LEDs originally emit only blue light, which is absorbed by the phosphor coating and re-emitted in a broader spectrum including red, green and blue. Unfortunately, this spectrum isn't perfect (i.e., it produces light with an uneven mix of colours), and white colour may have blue or yellow in it, depending on the type of phosphor used - which varies from one manufacturer to another. Calibrating the colour profile helps only a little, because it controls how much and which colour is filtered out, but not how much light and colour is produced originally. I bet calibration has been performed by apple for each type of screen (be it bluish or yellowish), and what we see is the best we can get out of both screens - if you want a better result, you need to go with a different backlight source (or even with different liquid crystals, because they also absorb light unevenly).
If you are interested in more details on the subject, check out these articles in wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led#White_light
I have recently noticed that the screen on my i4 look more yellowish than the display of my mbp(2010). Naturally, I decided to see if someone else noticed this, and that's how I came across this thread. I would like to say thanks to the people who posted pictures of various screens for comparison. Now I am sure that I wasn't mistaken.
I noticed that some people believe that this yellow tint is due to incorrect calibration. This is not necessarily true. Colour calibration simply balances red, green and blue so they are present in proportions that our brain perceives as white. However, no colour calibration will make an LCD display (as a general category of displays) produce a perfect white coulour. This is because the screen itself only filters out red, green and blue from the backlight, which is nowadays produced by LEDs. The issue is that white LEDs originally emit only blue light, which is absorbed by the phosphor coating and re-emitted in a broader spectrum including red, green and blue. Unfortunately, this spectrum isn't perfect (i.e., it produces light with an uneven mix of colours), and white colour may have blue or yellow in it, depending on the type of phosphor used - which varies from one manufacturer to another. Calibrating the colour profile helps only a little, because it controls how much and which colour is filtered out, but not how much light and colour is produced originally. I bet calibration has been performed by apple for each type of screen (be it bluish or yellowish), and what we see is the best we can get out of both screens - if you want a better result, you need to go with a different backlight source (or even with different liquid crystals, because they also absorb light unevenly).
If you are interested in more details on the subject, check out these articles in wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led#White_light
Just opened my new white iP4 to find that it has the yellow tint (as a pose to the black iP4 I've had since launch which was blue tinted).
Not a fan of the yellow tint at all - any chance you think Apple will replace it if I showed them the difference between the two?
Anyone else got the new white iP4 and also have the yellow tint?
Not a fan of the yellow tint at all - any chance you think Apple will replace it if I showed them the difference between the two?
Anyone else got the new white iP4 and also have the yellow tint?
Yes, Apple will replace it if you don't like the color calibration. Showing the two side by side would help your case very much too.
Cheers for that input - I think this sentiment can be added to just about every thread on this forum lol.
Just an update for those that do care - I returned to the store I got the white iPhone from this morning. The apple geniuses were really helpful - far more agreeable than I had anticipated.
I showed them the difference between the two phones and the 2 guys that were looking at it actually seemed more taken back by it than I was. They opened up another brand new white iPhone 4 and that one was even more yellow than the one I brought in!
One of them returned with 6 boxes of new white iPhones, and began to tear them all open lol. I felt kind of guilty given that these were all sealed and sale-ready at a retail price of £612 - but again I should stress the staff were more intrigued by this than I was and did this very much on their own accord.
Anyway, by the 4th one he opened, he said that this one looked better/whiter - and I agreed and took that one.
Overall I am pleased, however, even still the difference between the new replaced, white iPhone 4 I have now and the black iPhone 4 I have had since launch is still visible - as in, the black iPhone blue tint still looks better IMO.
Going by the 2 states of color as set out by the OP in this thread - all of the white ones that I saw that were sealed, I would say, were firmly within the yellow tint variety - the one I picked was simply the least yellow of the bunch, if that makes sense...
I purchased my 32gb iphone 4 on launch day. My wife got her iphone 4 this past wed and hers was the more blue tint. Mine had the warmer yellow tint.
When comparing the phones I realized that the more yellow one has MUCH better contrast than the more blue ones.
I almost had taken mine back, but now I am glad I kept it.
One thing, among others that I looked at in the comparison, was the settings icon. Hers was more washed out and on mine you could see a lot more details in the gear do to the higher contrast.
Today she took hers back to exchange it for the new white one.
We will have to see what it looks like
When comparing the phones I realized that the more yellow one has MUCH better contrast than the more blue ones.
I almost had taken mine back, but now I am glad I kept it.
One thing, among others that I looked at in the comparison, was the settings icon. Hers was more washed out and on mine you could see a lot more details in the gear do to the higher contrast.
Today she took hers back to exchange it for the new white one.
We will have to see what it looks like
I ll depend from the Genius guy...today my white iP4 has a yellowish color compared to my black iP4. I got this at ATT so he wouldn't exchange this....last month I went in with my iPad 2 with a yellow tint and they did replace a new one wich was with the whiter bluer tint which I like it better. I guess I ll try at some other apple store. Yes this is just a personal thing but I don't like this yellow screen
I returned my iPhone yesterday due to a defect and received the yellow tinged version.
The genius mentioned that this was the newest-of-new replacements available.
I'm not sure which version I like. I do prefer whiter whites normally but blacks look so much better on the yellow tinged screen.
Here it is sitting on an iPad -
The genius mentioned that this was the newest-of-new replacements available.
I'm not sure which version I like. I do prefer whiter whites normally but blacks look so much better on the yellow tinged screen.
Here it is sitting on an iPad -