Was there an ASD disc for this iBook which could do component testing to confirm the fault?
I think you will need Mac Test Pro G3 (2000) for the 1999 Clamshells. Apart from memory testing, I have never found MTPs/ASDs/AHTs particularly helpful.
Was there an ASD disc for this iBook which could do component testing to confirm the fault?
The 32GB mSATA SSD and IDE adapter arrived, so I set out to dissect the Blueberry iBook.
To answer my questions about the power supply issues (i.e not charging the battery and the iBook seeing a 45W adapter as 26W).. Here is the reason why:
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A blown 3-legged component (resistor? SCR/SSR?) directly behind the power source on the DC-in board. Included here is the burn mark on the underside of the main EMI shield.
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Here's an up close macro shot. I can see the remaining markings are "... H 7".
If somebody with a dismantled clamshell iBook could confirm the markings on this component, I may be able to source a suitable replacement and challenge myself to solder it in.
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Here's a shot of the PPC750L CPU for @LightBulbFun (I know you love looking at these mate). Also, Dez did you mention you had logic board schematics for this model? You might be able to tell me what the blown component is.
I think I'll put it back together now with the SSD. The teardown wasn't as bad as you guys were making it out to be
I'll keep an eye out for a replacement DC-in board, but they appear to be scarce.
The 32GB mSATA SSD and IDE adapter arrived, so I set out to dissect the Blueberry iBook.
To answer my questions about the power supply issues (i.e not charging the battery and the iBook seeing a 45W adapter as 26W).. Here is the reason why:
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A blown 3-legged component (resistor? SCR/SSR?) directly behind the power source on the DC-in board. Included here is the burn mark on the underside of the main EMI shield.
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Here's an up close macro shot. I can see the remaining markings are "... H 7".
If somebody with a dismantled clamshell iBook could confirm the markings on this component, I may be able to source a suitable replacement and challenge myself to solder it in.
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Here's a shot of the PPC750L CPU for @LightBulbFun (I know you love looking at these mate). Also, Dez did you mention you had logic board schematics for this model? You might be able to tell me what the blown component is.
I think I'll put it back together now with the SSD. The teardown wasn't as bad as you guys were making it out to be
I'll keep an eye out for a replacement DC-in board, but they appear to be scarce.
Just tore down one of my clamshells (complete with french keyboard) to check out this component after some probing testing and sleuthing on the internet it looks like its this part MMBZ5233B http://www.s-manuals.com/pdf/datasheet/m/m/mmbz5221b-mmbz5257b_fairchild.pdf a 6V Zener diode
sadly I accidentally slipped with the DMM probe while probing it out and blew it up, but before I blew it up I did manage to take a few readings/measurements I got a FVD (Forward voltage drop) of about 0.7V, and with the machine running I measured about 2.6v across pin 1 and 3 it defo seems to fit the description of that Zener diode
one of the upsides of blowing up D1 tho is my DC board also now sees my charger as 26W LOL so we know that D1 is the root of (all evil) this 26W charger issue
Looks like you just gotta replace D1 with a 6v Zener diode and in theory at least should fix the issue![]()
Talk about going above and beyond for tech support! Breaking your own gear just to find out how to fix it is next level
I've found a local Aussie online supplier of the part here:
https://www.x-on.com.au/DetailsPage/Fairchild/MMBZ5233B/?ID=43/AgxvcdIrs+byytC8Dzg==
Does that look like the one? I'll order a few of them just in case.
I've found a local Aussie online supplier of the part here:
https://www.x-on.com.au/DetailsPage/Fairchild/MMBZ5233B/?ID=43/AgxvcdIrs+byytC8Dzg==
Does that look like the one? I'll order a few of them just in case.
Were you able to get that required diode? If so how's the repair going?
The parts arrived, so I had a crack at the repairs.
A) Replaced blown FAIRCHILD MMBZ5233B SOT-23 diode on DC-in board. The prior blow out caused two out of three of the solder pads to lift off as I removed the old part. Not having any epoxy to properly repair this, I scratched back the PCB to reveal the traces for the pads and soldered straight onto the exposed copper. Everything tested for continuity OK (soldering directly on traces appeared to keep the circuit intact). It didn't look pretty, but it should work.
B) While the logic board was exposed, I spent a LONG time fiddling with the tiny resistors for the PLL to overclock the 300Mhz G3 (4.5x multiplier). After reading many reports of the 300Mhz bumping up to 400Mhz OK, I attempted this enhancement by move the resistor at R8 to R7 and R11 to R12. Full table of multipliers/resistors are here.
C) Replaced PRAM capacitor on logic board for new. 5.5V 0.33F H Type Terminal Coin Super Capacitor
Re-assembled and powered on.
Results so far
1. First boot went into Mac OS 8.6 - locked up while loading extensions
2. Reboot with option key, selected Tiger partition
3. Arrived at Tiger desktop. About this Mac shows 400Mhz G3!
4. Went into System Profiler to check Power status - hard lock up.
5. Rebooted into Mac OS 8.6, arrived at desktop, ran Gauge Pro - Temps are sitting at 48 - 52°C. Ran Memory Test on repeat, got to 58°C but remained stable.
6. Rebooted into Tiger again. Got through to Power section in System Profiler: AC Adapter cannot charge battery: YES - AC Power: 26W!
7. Put to sleep. Amber Charge light is still only coming on when sleeping/powered off. Goes to green and refuses to charge battery when running.
8. Awoke from sleep - garbled UI, miscolored icons, etc. Hard lock up again.
9. disconnected power for 20 seconds - reattached and powered on. Startup disk was remembered. Kernel panic on boot.
So, I overdid the Overclock. I'll take a break from it for now, but will pull it apart again and drop back down to 366Mhz. I believe this should be stable. It only requires one resistor change from it's present state (R9 to R10).
The replacement PRAM capacitor appears to be working. I'll need to continue to test this theory.
While I have it apart, I'll try replacing the DC-in board diode again. Maybe I did something wrong with this. At the very least, it didn't go up in a cloud of smoke.
its a shame replacing the diode did not fix the Power issue, I would verify that it was put in the right way round and that the part you got was indeed working and not DOA.
glad to see the super capacitor replacement went well tho![]()
it might be worth getting some better cooling on that CPU, the heatsinks in an iBook is a piddly little thing. (same for the Lombard LOL)
IBM PPC750Ls are generally cool running Chips but they dont overclock all that well, so indeed 366 might be your max, a good 400Mhz chip Might hit 500Mhz say in a Pismo but thats about as far as your going to get, i dont think I have seen anything faster. (I dont think I have seen anyone try and overclock a stock 500Mhz Pismo CPU)
300Mhz 4.5x R13, R11, R9, R8
400Mhz 6x R13, R9, R7, R12
Move R8 to R7
Move R11 to R12
Maybe all the messing around caused it grief. I bought a 5pk, so I'll replace it again.
It held NVRAM (startup disk selection) overnight, but lost date and time. I tested it with a 10 minute unpowered state after re-setting the clock and it held date and time OK for this short period. I believe this is normal behaviour for the clamshell though, so I'll consider this small fix a success. I can't recall if it lost startup disk selection prior (I think it did). Do the NVRAM settings require PRAM power?
I figured that seeing as though my Blueberry is a very early revision (possibly 1st), it wasn't one of the later models which shipped with an underclocked 300Mhz CPU (which may have been easily capable of reaching 400Mhz OC'ed).
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Now this is just weird. I started it up from cold and About This Mac states 433Mhz. It's sitting stable for now, but will crash. I don't understand how it could magically jump from 6.0 to 6.5x multipliers.. maybe I crossed a circuit somewhere.
I'm sure it was only 400Mhz last night (in 10.4 and 8.6).. but it was 5am by the time I packed everything up. I fell into a real time warp with this one.
This is my note I wrote as I tried to understand the resistor table for the 4.5 to 6.0 jump
Is this correct? What do you make of it Dez?
EDIT: It dropped itself back down to 400Mhz after getting hot and locking up. There's something odd going on here. It looks like the R8 to R7 change may have been dodgy. I did end up re-using the little speck of a resistor for this one and it tested ~420Ω, the same as the others, but I just used a solder blob/bridge on R12 because it's resistor wasn't giving me any readings for continuity (I don't understand how). I'll remove the R8 resistor and solder blob it like I did with R12, then do the same with the R9 > R10 change.
I would defo check your jumper connections, it sounds like one of them is dodgy indeed especially if its changing as it warms up, i doubt the CPU would be very happy about the funny loadings on its PLL_Config pins, it might example some of the crashing.
I would just blob/bridge it yeah,
those Resistors are quite fragile so id not reuse them, same could be said for the diode too. take a DMM and set it to diode test mode ya should get something like 0.7V drop across pins 1 and 3 and only in one direction (also the parts are marked correctly right?, just making sure someone did not send ya the wrong ones)
PS all of this gave me an idea that that im going to look into tomoz![]()
I went for the "third time lucky" optimistic approach and tore it down again (this time without referring to the guide on iFixit). Pulled out the DC in board, removed the diode and the solder stump which was on the lower right leg (pin 2) of the diode, cleaned it up, replaced with another new diode (in case the previous install caused it damage), leaving pin 2 disconnected.
While I had the DC in board in my hands, I tried to determine if there was a trace for the pad on pin 2 using a small LED torch to shine through from behind and reveal the inner copper paths of the board. There appear to be no inner layers, just top and bottom and I could not locate any copper trace for this pad. I am led to believe it is designed to have no underlying trace/connection for pin 2 and the diode is only used for pin 1 (lower left) and 3 (top). I'd love for someone to prove this wrong if they have the board readily available.
With a new diode installed (again), I tested resistance;
1. Positive on pin 1, negative on pin 3; ~800Ω
2. Negative on pin 1, positive on pin 3; 1 / OL (this is correct as I understand)
3. Reconnected and powered, tested voltage; 2.6v on pin 1 and 3 of the diode.
4. Re-Installed the battery and tested voltage; 3.0v on pin 1 and 3 of the diode when charge light goes amber
5. When "charging" (amber light while "powered off"), pin 1 (+) on the battery connection/terminal and pin 6 (-) indicate ~16v is being sent to the battery, which appears to be correct for charging.
6. Powering iBook on (without a display, keyboard, etc) resulted in the same behaviour; charge light goes green and voltage at the battery terminal drops to 1.8v (not charging). Diode on DC in board gives a reading of 2.6v
7. Power off and re-test; same result.
I re-assembled the machine again, booted up. Tiger reports AC Power is still 26w and not able to charge the battery. Removing the battery and booting up again results in the same 26w report.
I am still suspicious of the possibility of a missing trace for the pad at pin 2 which was either fried or damaged on this particular machine.
I don't have a Diode Mode test on my multimeter for determining the forward voltage drop, but I have a feeling that the part is correct and the problem lies elsewhere.
Anyway. I will call it quits on this one for now. I didn't think I'd be dismantling and soldering the board(s) of my iBook 3 times in a 24 hour span.
its a shame its not fixed it
hmm I know Pin 2 is not the issue as nothing connects there (its a dead pin) the diode is only across pins 1 and 3.
did you try and reset the PMU during all of this?
glad to see its running stable at 366Mhz tho, now you can try and overclock the bus to 100Mhz![]()