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The only thing I dislike is charging the blue tooth headsets I don't want another device to charge.
However in the same breath I do welcome the death of the headphone jack, I don't think we will get good innovation in this area until that headphone jack dies.
 
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Knowing Apple, they are probably gonna save this for iPhone 8, iPad Pro 3 and next years MacBooks and iMacs.
 
I don't know if anyone else here games but Nintendo's Wii U has a pretty cool wirelesss system with the gamepad / connecting to the TV. I actually had less problems with that than I ever had with Blu-tooth. Using stuff via gamepad / wii u is seamless and works dramatically better than iphone 6S+ & Apple TV 4 when they are connected for mirroring. I think the wireless protocols are Nintendo designed but if Blu-tooth can copy some of that Wii U tech that will be nice.
 
Can the higher bitrates can support a need? Bluetooth by nature is low-power and short distance and I believe in the beginning, even bandwidth wasn't much of a concern because the peripherals that use/used it didn't need high bitrates to transfer large amounts of data.

IMO, the need for higher bitrates is support for higher resolution audio. Before I and a lot of people opt for Bluetooth headsets, we'll want a transferring a minimum of 16/44.1 either uncompressed or lossless compresses to that headset. Of course as a lot of people have pointed out, there's still the issue of connectivity and power supply and of course the quality of the receiver, DAC, and amplifier in the headset but I imagine if the connectivity issues work out, over the ear headphones should have plenty of room to store power and various companies will make various fidelities of headsets.
 
Crap. This makes me kinda want to wait on upgrading to HomeKit stuff. Although the first two things I want to buy either use WiFi in addition to BT because they're plugged in, or use the Apple TV as a BT to WiFi bridge. But this would be fantastic news as double the range would about cover most decent sized homes, and probably make BT mesh networking much more reliable.

I think the biggest benefit of BT5 will be for the Apple Watch. I just loaded the Weather Underground third party app, and it took about 16 seconds to pull the data up from my 6s. So this could theoretically reduce the load time to four seconds. Still kinda long, but holy crap not as long as it is now. Simpler apps like Calcbot should open in one second instead of four. Mid-range apps like Fantastical just took about eight seconds, so it would go down to two. This would make me more likely to use third party apps for sure, and definitely speed up smaller requests in things like glances. If BT5 has similar energy usage vs. time spent transmitting as BT 4.2, then we could see good power savings as the radio would be actively sending and receiving data for less time.
 
Recent relevant example- the last few LTE chips which have had increased bandwidth & lower power consumption.
Thats purely from reducing inefficiency in the controller chip - not in the actual transfer itself. The power costs of transmitting a signal are well established; see the Shannon-Hartley theorem.
 
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Timing seems curious with all the headphone jack rumors.

Maybe the reason apple is ditching it is 5 will offer lots of benefits over physical jack, maybe better quality is what I'm hoping for. More range will be nice too
 
According to my 'about' for the Bluetooth File Exchange, on my 2008 Mac Pro the version is 4.4.5, created 2/27/2016 and modified 5/29/2016 when I updated to the most recent version of El Capitan.

If it requires only a software update, then why are people complaining about having this included with iPhone 7 and not waiting till iPhone 8?
 
Crap. This makes me kinda want to wait on upgrading to HomeKit stuff. Although the first two things I want to buy either use WiFi in addition to BT because they're plugged in, or use the Apple TV as a BT to WiFi bridge. But this would be fantastic news as double the range would about cover most decent sized homes, and probably make BT mesh networking much more reliable.

I think the biggest benefit of BT5 will be for the Apple Watch. I just loaded the Weather Underground third party app, and it took about 16 seconds to pull the data up from my 6s. So this could theoretically reduce the load time to four seconds. Still kinda long, but holy crap not as long as it is now. Simpler apps like Calcbot should open in one second instead of four. Mid-range apps like Fantastical just took about eight seconds, so it would go down to two. This would make me more likely to use third party apps for sure, and definitely speed up smaller requests in things like glances. If BT5 has similar energy usage vs. time spent transmitting as BT 4.2, then we could see good power savings as the radio would be actively sending and receiving data for less time.

I would never depend on Bluetooth as my smart home form of communication. With the hotel based routers coming out for consumers (luma for example), wifi is still gonna be the best choice for all our devices, AirPlay ecspecially.
 
If it helps with lag then great. Power, transmission speeds too - would that speed up AirDrop?
Seems Bluetooth over a fair few things - Mac lineup, iPhones and iPads, Apple Watch and ATV.
 
So we'll get Bluetooth 5 on Apple Watch 2 to speed things up, maybe?

...But also a FaceTime camera video stream to s l o w t h i n g s d o w n a g a i n :(

That's some serious dedication to formatting right there :)
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It'll never be as reliable as a cable, no matter what the speed. I have no interest in Bluetooth.

You probably want an ethernet port on your iPhone too, don't you?

There is a time and a place for it.
 
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Thats purely from reducing inefficiency in the controller chip - not in the actual transfer itself. The power costs of transmitting a signal are well established; see the Shannon-Hartley theorem.

Of course; however, though I have not read any of the IEEE briefs on the new BT 5 protocol, one must assume that, it being specifically a "low-power" protocol, that in the latest iteration - the controller would be optimized for similar or better power consumption, yeah?
 
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