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Networking

Does someone know about the networking potential of bluetooth and os x?

I saw the demonstration of steve where he connects wirelessely to the internet via a cell phone. Is it possible, lets say, to connect to the net from my iBook using my G4 DSL connection and bluetooth? I would be surprised because it could cannibalize airport sales, but i think it is technically possible.
 
Re: yes, the bluetooth memory stick is real...

Originally posted by mithras
...but it's just a wee bit expensive:

PalmInfoCenter says it's just becoming available, for $212. (!)

Yow. I remember seeing earlier statements (from Sony) that it was going to sell in the $99-129 range. Of course, the thing was delayed more than a year after they announced it. I guess it was a little tougher than they thought to make the thing. From what I was reading, the announcement that they were finally going to be available was totally overshadowed by the announcement of the U.S. release of the NR series CLIEs, which happened at the same time.


Besides, you have to remove any memory sticks current plugged in, which kind of nullifies the point of quick, easy Hotsyncing.

No problem. PD4 isn't going to sync your memory stick anyway. I already have a separate stick reader.

WRT cameras, I'm quite sure current memory stick cameras won't support the Bluetooth stick, because an actual memory stick is their only source of storage. You won't be taking pictures and transferring them instantaneously to other devices. Furthermore, the camera would have to have some kind of firmware support for Bluetooth to start with before it would know what to do with the stick if you inserted it.

The only exception I can think of is, since the high-end MicroMV camcorder already has Bluetooth, and they do their recording to cassette instead of memory stick, I think it's at least possible that its low-end sibling (or perhaps a later revision) could make use of the Bluetooth stick. But I wouldn't count on it.
 
Re: Networking

Originally posted by delta.hex
Does someone know about the networking potential of bluetooth and os x?

I saw the demonstration of steve where he connects wirelessely to the internet via a cell phone. Is it possible, lets say, to connect to the net from my iBook using my G4 DSL connection and bluetooth? I would be surprised because it could cannibalize airport sales, but i think it is technically possible.

If you weren't going to roam more than 30 feet (under best conditions) from your G4, why wouldn't you just surf from the G4? Bluetooth is too limited in range to hurt sales of AirPort.
 
Re: Re: Networking

Originally posted by Gelfin


If you weren't going to roam more than 30 feet (under best conditions) from your G4, why wouldn't you just surf from the G4? Bluetooth is too limited in range to hurt sales of AirPort.

If my someone else is using it and I want to check my email, for example.
 
Re: True Wireless Internet...

Originally posted by Screamingbeaver
I don't know too much about Bluetooth, but I am excited about it. Did you see Jobs demo it in his Keynote? He had a Bluetooth enabled cell phone and connected to the internet from it, launched the Bluetooth software on his iBook and Bam! He was surfing the web truely wirelessly. Anywhere you can get a signal with you cell phone.

Where did you see the keynote? I've been anxiously wating for Apple to post it, but no dice...

500!!!:D
 
Re: Re: True Wireless Internet...

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Where did you see the keynote? I've been anxiously wating for Apple to post it, but no dice...

500!!!:D

congrats on 500!!!

I dig your avatar....funny thing....my first Flash attempt I created an awfully similar graphic just like what u have there...he he he :p
 
Thanks, eye!

Yeah, I've done some similar stuff in Flash too. I did this one in PS, using the shape tool for the nucleus and electron paths, and then animated the electrons by hand in ImageReady...

It's a smaller version of the one on my website, since I was too lazy to make something new...maybe in another few hundred posts I'll get around to it...
 
Re: Re: Re: Networking

Originally posted by delta.hex


If my someone else is using it and I want to check my email, for example.

The point remains, however, that this is not providing you with the same level of functionality you get from AirPort networking. If situations like you describe are all you expect from it, then it probably wouldn't be worth the expense of AirPort anyway.

So I still don't see Bluetooth support eating into AirPort sales significantly. I do see Bluetooth giving basic wireless connectivity to people who otherwise wouldn't have it at all, and I see a lot of people having and using both because each is suited to its own range of tasks, even though there is some overlap.

Besides, the same argument could be made about Palm devices cutting into sales of laptops. Sure, they probably do a bit, because if there were no Palm devices, some people who absolutely NEEDED a mobile computer would be forced to buy a laptop. But there is still plenty of room in the market for both kinds of computer.
 
Re: Networking

Originally posted by delta.hex
Is it possible, lets say, to connect to the net from my iBook using my G4 DSL connection and bluetooth? I would be surprised because it could cannibalize airport sales, but i think it is technically possible.

It's technically possible but you would have to hack an IP route by yourself. By default it won't work quite like this. Think of it as another network interface. If you give it an IP, sure you can route.

By default they include a file sharing app but it's not going to be a good subsititute for airport cards.
 
Re: Re: Networking

Originally posted by Pelorus

By default they include a file sharing app but it's not going to be a good subsititute for airport cards.

Not only that, the data rate is much less than the AirPort and 802.11. Blue tooth is more like wireless USB.
 
Big news...

Originally written by a mate


Since Dlinks Bluetooth USB adapter wont be here in Sweden until around 2 months from now (HATE THAT!), I still did d/l Apples bluetooth technical preview, and inserted an TDK Bluetooth USB Adapter.


Voila - it works!

The adapter can be found at:

http://www.tdksys.com/bluetooth/USB_adaptor/USB_adaptor.html

Immediately tested with an Ericsson R520m mobilephone, and after having to key in the PIN-.code both at Mac, and at the phone, they did connect. No problems
 
Re: Re: True Wireless Internet...

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Where did you see the keynote? I've been anxiously wating for Apple to post it, but no dice...

500!!!:D

http://www.tokyodv.com/

may still have their footage, upper left menu. It wasn't official Apple Keynote Stream, just the home movie of a participant at MWTokyo.

So THATS the reason all these threads are peppered with inane chatter about avatars... people trying to boost their posting score so they can USE one. tsk tsk...
 
Re: Re: Re: True Wireless Internet...

Originally posted by Wry Cooter


http://www.tokyodv.com/

may still have their footage, upper left menu. It wasn't official Apple Keynote Stream, just the home movie of a participant at MWTokyo.

So THATS the reason all these threads are peppered with inane chatter about avatars... people trying to boost their posting score so they can USE one. tsk tsk...

Thanks for the link!

I know we're a pretty childish bunch...but hey, I feel like I earned it...:)
 
Re: Wow..

Originally posted by Screamingbeaver
Wow!, Nokia has five bluetooth enabled models...

http://www.nokia.com/bluetooth/

SonyEricsson has got some excellent bluetooth phones (in my opinion, way better than Nokia's). and you can enable any modern ericsson (t-series) with a little adapter thing, it's called an "HBH 10" or something I think... That's what I'm using with my phone (I've got a wireless bluetooth headset) and I'm just hoping that that will work all OK with the Dlink thingy and the apple s/w... If you've STILL got some spare cash after buying all your apple stuf ;) , I'd suggest that the T39 is probably the best way to go (BUILT IN bluetooth, tripleband network support, gprs, enhanced messaging service *drool*).

http://www.sonyericsson.com/T39/

sure, it's not a cheap phone, but it's the best out there :)
 
Re: Re: Wow..

Originally posted by j763


SonyEricsson has got some excellent bluetooth phones (in my opinion, way better than Nokia's). and you can enable any modern ericsson (t-series) with a little adapter thing, it's called an "HBH 10" or something I think... That's what I'm using with my phone (I've got a wireless bluetooth headset) and I'm just hoping that that will work all OK with the Dlink thingy and the apple s/w... If you've STILL got some spare cash after buying all your apple stuf ;) , I'd suggest that the T39 is probably the best way to go (BUILT IN bluetooth, tripleband network support, gprs, enhanced messaging service *drool*).

http://www.sonyericsson.com/T39/

sure, it's not a cheap phone, but it's the best out there :)

Call me when one of the PalmOS phones has Bluetooth.
 
Re: Re: Re: Wow..

Originally posted by Wry Cooter


Call me when one of the PalmOS phones has Bluetooth.

I don't even get this. The whole point of Bluetooth is that I don't need to buy one of those godawful "convergence" phones (every one of which amounts to not-the-greatest phone plus not-the-greatest PDA, and too bulky to boot). Let me pick the phone and PDA I like, and as long as they can communicate via Bluetooth everything's peachy.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wow..

Originally posted by Gelfin


I don't even get this. The whole point of Bluetooth is that I don't need to buy one of those godawful "convergence" phones (every one of which amounts to not-the-greatest phone plus not-the-greatest PDA, and too bulky to boot). Let me pick the phone and PDA I like, and as long as they can communicate via Bluetooth everything's peachy.

You load your pockets the way you want to, I'll load mine the way I want to.

I want a PalmOS phone. The functionalities belong together... not in separate pockets. I want bluetooth, but I would want it in a Palm OS phone.

I'll save my other pocket for an iPod.

Sure its nice if you think bluetooth is going to let your phone and your PDA communicate seamlessly, but I doubt it would work the slightest bit as seamlessly as a PDA Phone.
 
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