I almost didn't buy a tesla because I swore I needed Carplay and Apple Carkey. I ended up getting a model Y performance and now I don't understand why anyone would need Apple Carkey. Your phone is already your key and you don't have to take it out of your pocket. What benefit would Carkey give you?
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BMW Announces Plans to Launch Ultra Wideband Version of Apple's Car Key Feature by Early Next Year
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I almost didn't buy a tesla because I swore I needed Carplay and Apple Carkey. I ended up getting a model Y performance and now I don't understand why anyone would need Apple Carkey. Your phone is already your key and you don't have to take it out of your pocket. What benefit would Carkey give you?
GPS drains a lot of battery. So when you forget a cable to charge your phone, it is a big concern.
They want to complicate things. Like putting bluetooth in your toothbrush or coffee mug!
This. If I have to take my phone out of my pocket to open my door I won’t use it. My Dodge Journey even has keyless entry standard for crying out loud!
1 Security: UWB and NFC are much more secure than bluetooth
2 Works when the phone is out of battery
3 Seamless integration into Wallet no app required
4 Key can easily and natively be shared with others and be sent to them via iMessage
really hope Tesla will integrate this soon.
The point here with the addition of UWB is that the phone does not need to leave your pocket.
It relies on Bluetooth, no internet needed... never did. Phone Key is just a convenience feature anyway for walk up/away unlock/lock. If you are a Tesla owner and don't carry around your physical key card for emergency reasons, well that's on you if you get locked out.
1) I'm all for more security and less energy use, hopefully Tesla can figure this out.
2) This is definitely a nice-to-have, but still prudent to always carry the physical key card for any type of emergency like if my phone is lost, broken, or stolen.
3) You need the app to monitor everything else going on with the car, so integrating into Wallet is not all that helpful.
4) I can allow anyone to use my car from anywhere in the world (without a key or being an authenticated user) with the Tesla app, so this already exists. Also, after they are done with that one drive, the car will not allow them to access afterwards (until I give them access again).
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It does seem interesting that they are the second company to announce implementation.....and the company that is rumored to produce the Apple Car.
You sound like someone who has never even tried these easier methods. I pay for most things with my watch and it's seamless when it is available. Wherever I am faced with having to pull out my wallet and pull out my card and swipe an wait and possibly having to sign something or accept the charges and then wait for a printed receipt and deal with that...my point is once you try it, going back to the old number of card steps is too annoying and insecure. Same goes with car keys. I walk up to my car and it unlocks with a wireless FOB as I approach. I hate just having to carry the physical keys so this would be an improvement too.
Exactly (I love the Performance Y, but wish it was faster). I never wanted CarPlay in the first place though.
I used to only drive BMW’s but they are pretty a average these days. I remember when the driving experience was important to BMW (manual transmissions on the 3, etc). It wasn’t that long ago but times change.
passive unlock works 95% of the time. other 5% of the time is frustrating
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BMW Announces Plans to Launch Ultra Wideband Version of Apple's Car Key Feature by Early Next Year
Have you used it? Works 95% of the time, but the other 5% doesn't unlock and requires me to launch the app to unlock manually. Bluetooth isn't reliable. Even Linus experienced it when he filmed the Model Y review (1:20) Also, CarKey will work even if your phone is at 0% battery (iPhone has...
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double tap Apple Watch, wave at the NFC, pay.
wave Apple watch at the door, unlock.
way better than what you’re suggesting
No.
Requires the encrypted token and handshake.
Rotating keys.
Think about an authentication app that generates a unique key every time you try to login.
They'll do that the same day they implement CarPlay: When hell freezes over or an actual adult gets to be Tesla's CEO.
Nah Model 3 relies on bluetooth. Still doesn't work all the time as it should.
On newer BMWs you don't even have to touch the handle. Car unlocks as you approach it it automatically locks when you walk away.
He doesn't need the fob. He needs to put his phone in the charging pad to be able to start the car.
The U1 Support will eliminate the need for this, and the phone will be able to stay in your pocket.