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Bono Recounts Fight With Steve Jobs Over (Product) RED Branding, Urges Apple to Do More
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Don't go on stage and attack someone who is now defenseless. Isn't that what he is supposed to be working against?
Bono...
...hitting below the belt against a guy who isn't around to respond.
The fact is a simple one, in order to make your products remain desirable, especially where it makes a contribution to great things, can obscure the desirability of the product with a logo.
Subtlety is important, modesty is important especially in a time where a great many things shout out hey "look at me" and the crassness associated with that culture. Not the market you want to necessarily go after but perhaps those who can think past themselves.
As for the cult of Apple. Well, the thing about that is quite simple, without the dedicated following of some of us on these forums product RED may not be the success it is. To add a final note about subtlety and modesty, you respect it a little more than some of the other things you see recycled again and again for great causes, they lose their appeal eventually.
...hitting below the belt against a guy who isn't around to respond.
The fact is a simple one, in order to make your products remain desirable, especially where it makes a contribution to great things, can obscure the desirability of the product with a logo.
Subtlety is important, modesty is important especially in a time where a great many things shout out hey "look at me" and the crassness associated with that culture. Not the market you want to necessarily go after but perhaps those who can think past themselves.
As for the cult of Apple. Well, the thing about that is quite simple, without the dedicated following of some of us on these forums product RED may not be the success it is. To add a final note about subtlety and modesty, you respect it a little more than some of the other things you see recycled again and again for great causes, they lose their appeal eventually.
Correction: What Bono doesn't realize is that Apple users generally don't like huge logos that isn't an apple splashed all over their products.
Death and Taxes
If only Bonio *cough* hair transplant *cough* was like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett - I don't see him paying his taxes or giving a percentage of his massive earnings to help other people - tosser!
If only Bonio *cough* hair transplant *cough* was like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett - I don't see him paying his taxes or giving a percentage of his massive earnings to help other people - tosser!
You're are correct in that I am not anyone special in that I will be guaranteed an answer. But I don't think of it as a demand, I think of it as a request. I don't see "Bono's an idiot" as any better than "Apple makes overpriced junk."
Typically my modus operandi is to draw someone out to expose them to my viewpoint. A great many people who hate Apple, for example, do so because they're an easy target, they're popular, and a person read or heard something damning about them, and from that point forward, they see it as something they'll just be against by default. I put Bono in the same (though much less influential) category.
Of that I have no doubt.
I <heart> Penny Arcade.
If they can make a Scottish actor a Sir, I am sure they can squeeze in an Irish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Connery
As far as I know, Scotland is still part of the UK. Not that everyone agrees with that, mind you.
bono demonstrated that what he cares about is branding, and not about money to do the work they want to do. They get plenty of brand promotion from apple, they just don't get brand promotion from the apple designed, and sold products. They just get the money.
Here's something to raise your awareness.
Number of people who died from Aids in the US - 15,000
Number of people who died from Diabetes in the US - 234,000
Why aren't we raising money to fight Diabetes?
(and don't say we know how to prevent diabetes, because we also know how to prevent Aids)
(Product) RED is more about politics than it is about helping people.
Number of people who died from Aids in the US - 15,000
Number of people who died from Diabetes in the US - 234,000
Why aren't we raising money to fight Diabetes?
(and don't say we know how to prevent diabetes, because we also know how to prevent Aids)
(Product) RED is more about politics than it is about helping people.
Bono needs to chill out. Nobody would know what (RED) is if it weren't for Apple. I've never seen another product outside of an Apple store that supports that charity.
No it's posters here that need to chill out. The audience laughed at Bono's comments. Heck, Jony Ive laughed at them. Y'all are taking his comments way to seriously. Bono was a good friend of Steve and Laurene. He even spoke at Steve's private memorial service. People criticize Apple here all the time. I don't see anyone telling them to chill out.
Correction: What Bono doesn't realize is that Apple users generally don't like huge logos that isn't an apple splashed all over their products.
True. I mentioned that when responding to someone else. The main difference is Apple doesn't put their logos all over their products. Even on the smart cover he was complaining about the Apple logo is on the back and it's very subtle. The only product I can think of with a front-facing Apple logo is the iMac, which is small in comparison to the huge screen (I'm writing on one at work right now). Some companies are much worse with their branding. The product red logo is also not the best looking logo around. Apple's logo is simple and balanced.
The other thing that I think people miss is that the majority of people buying product red stuff are only buying it because it's a color they like. I only bought my red smart cover because I like the color. Is it cool that it's going to help charity? Sure. But I'm not the type of person to go out of my way to get a product that supports charity if it's something I don't need or even want. I just give actual money to charity and write it off on my taxes every year.
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Maybe he got confused by all the huge glowing Apple logos you see everywhere?
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So what you are actually saying is that Apple places the logo to maximise the number of people who see it when the device is actually in use?
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Wow.. that's big of you.
you did say demand though - I now know what you meant. I agree with the comparrison of his statement.
Ah so we kinda did the same thing? was trying to feel out what you really expected to get out of your original post.
indeed... i need to catch up on reading some of the more recent ones..
Yes, I wonder how many hours it takes Apple to make that amount of profit.
Hint: it's about 12 hours profit at current rates, donated over nearly 8 years - they are hardly breaking the bank.
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They are an advocacy group - they were never setup to directly fund charitable causes.