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BootCamp Installation for "unsupported Mac's" - W8 / W8.1 / W10 - Solution

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I go totally crazy....
Reinstalled Windows 10 and now it is not even possible to install Bootcamp5 without flash and restart during installation of nvidia.
No Internet activated...
 
TBTechMo said:
I go totally crazy....
Reinstalled Windows 10 and now it is not even possible to install Bootcamp5 without flash and restart during installation of nvidia.
No Internet activated...
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Reset PRAM, reset SMC. Check if a supported Windows BootCamp version still works, to exclude hardware failures. I have no other ideas, sorry ... strange.

Did you upgrade any hardware before the W10 update ( RAM, SSD ) ?
 
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Yeah its strange. I have no idea why now not even the bootcamp 5 installation works.
Will try it again with internet connection. Reset PRAM and SMC didn't change anything.
 
Hi,

I have early 2008 imac and did upgrade from W7 to W10. DEcided to go for the 64 bit. I used bootcamp version 3 (from snow lepord CD) and everything seems to be fine.

Now with bootcamp version 6 released yesterday, should I try to install BC 6 or just stick with the old version 3.

Off course I will expect to get error message saying my imac is not supported on the new bootcamp 6 but I'm sure there will be a way round this ?
 
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Neil12134 said:
Hi,

I have early 2008 imac and did upgrade from W7 to W10. DEcided to go for the 64 bit. I used bootcamp version 3 (from snow lepord CD) and everything seems to be fine.

Now with bootcamp version 6 released yesterday, should I try to install BC 6 or just stick with the old version 3.

Off course I will expect to get error message saying my imac is not supported on the new bootcamp 6 but I'm sure there will be a way round this ?
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If something is not broken, don't fix it ;) . Seriously.
 
Hello Good Sir... we have the same Macbook Pro 13inch mid-2010 model.. the following instructions also worked with my (unsupported) MBP:

"After Windows 10 is up and running:
  1. Download Boot Camp 5.1.5722 Drivers

  2. Extract the Drivers on the Desktop...

  3. Run CMD or PowerShell as administrator (Use the combination Shift + fn + F10 for right-click)

  4. CD (change directory) into BootCamp5.1.5722/BootCamp/Drivers/Apple

  5. Run 'BootCamp.msi'
Note: We are using CMD/PowerShell to bypass Elevated Permissions for MSI Installer

Voila!!! All drivers will install automatically via Boot Camp..."

After successful bootcamp installation, i followed your additional instructions to wit:

"Additional Steps for my MacBook Pro
-----------------------------------

m) Delete all contents of C:\Insttemp WX
n) Download BootCamp 4.0.4033.zip <=== please choose the most recent version for your system ===>
o) Copy the downloaded file to C:\Insttemp WX
p) Extract the downloaded file to C:\Insttemp WX ( so that you can see a C:\Insttemp WX\Bootcamp folder after extraction )
q) In device manager, navigate to "Other devices - Coprocessor" and select it
r) Driver -> Update driver -> Browse my computer for driver software -> C:\Insttemp WX\BootCamp\Drivers\NVidia\NVidiaChipset64\SMU and click next. Wait until the update is finished.
s) In device manager, navigate to "Other devices - SM Bus Controller" and select it
t) Driver -> Update driver -> Browse my computer for driver software -> C:\Insttemp WX\BootCamp\Drivers\NVidia\NVidiaChipset64\SMBUS and click next. Wait until the update is finished.
u) Reboot your Mac"

After doing the above procedure, the driver of the devices listed in the Device Manager with yellow question marks were all installed smoothly. Thank you very much.
 
macenied said:
Edit:


Now, here is the solution:

BootCamp Installation for "unsupported Mac's" - W8 / W8.1 / W10
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...
You are done.

:)
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Macenied - I am SO INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL for your posting here! I found your ideas initially on this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/windows-10-mid-2010-macbook-pro.1913237/

Here are my notes on my process that worked, including some questions for Macenied -- in case this helps save time for anyone else:

I also have a mid-2010 MacbookPro. Mine is a 17" with k7 and 330 NVidia graphics.

Re: Installing the Bootcamp 5 drivers: Awesome! For my system, everything seems to work just fine.
I used Boot Camp 5.1.5722 Drivers.
You refer to needing BC 4 drivers for NVidia Chipset drivers... Maybe that's only applicable for the 320 graphics card.
My system has the 330. Windows did finish it's first auto-update before I knew how to stop it. It loaded 330m drivers from Oct. 2015 that seem to be working perfectly.
I compared driver file folders for BC4 and BC5. There are actually a bundle of driver files that 4 includes that aren't seemingly (obviously) in 5. But maybe Win10 includes these. Because EVERYTHING seems to work that I've tested so far. No glitches I'm aware of.

Re: "Disable Auto Update Drivers of Windows:"
Hmmm... Not sure how to do this. Win10 allows you to "defer" -- but that just delays them.
Q: Is there a particular location to do this?

Re: "Disable the BootCamp applehfs.sys driver" via "MS tool "Autorun" to disable it. Download from MS."
Hmmm... I think I might have lost an hour on this. I can't find any such "Autorun" download on Microsoft's site. (Apparently "autoruns" are use by viruses, and even searching for this on Google took me to shady places and corrupted the Microsoft site on one browser.)
Q: Are you referring to a particular tool? Do you have a link?
Here's what I did: I dragged both the "applehfs.sys" and the "applemnt.sys" files to the Recycle bin. I searched thru the Registry manually and couldn't find them.

Re: "Installing the free Paragon HFS+ driver for Win 8/8.1" Brilliant! Thanks so much. Works perfectly!!!

My big issue (took hours!) was a boot installation problem. Like many others, I came across the conflict of MBR from Windows with the EFI GPT partition drive that Mac wants; the "hybridized" partition problem. For whatever reason, this was a non-issue when I initially used Bootcamp (years ago) to install Win7-32 bit; and no problem for doing the in-place upgrade to Windows 10-32. However, I wanted to go to the 64-bit version of Windows 10 and was willing to pursue a Clean Install.
My attempts at installing were stalled at the partition and format point of installation on multiple attempts. I tried the Win10-64 flash drive from the Media Creation Tool. I tried using the MCT .ini approach to flash drive via a recommended boot installer. Same result. I also tried the DVD-approach by booting to EFI. I thought it needed to be EFI. I tried a bunch of things on the Mac end -- via Disc Utility that were not fruitful.

Here's the deal for anyone trying and failing: You NEED to use the DVD iso approach. When you press the "option" key for boot options, you NEED to choose the DVD-WINDOWS option. THis just completely worked without a hitch!

Anyway, it took me forever! (6-8 hours at least). But now I could do it in likely 2.
I could not have gotten the courage to pursue this without you, Macenied. So, God bless you for your postings here!!!

Craig
[doublepost=1467354574][/doublepost]Macoy,
Thank you so much for your contribution here as well. I found some of your instruction a little clearer here, and so I combined your and Macenied's approach. I think you both are highly skilled and assume certain things that trip up newbs like me.

So, here's what I discovered and learned:

- I couldn't get CMD to run from either the downloads folder or the desktop. I moved it directly onto the C: drive and changed some of your syntax and got it to work this way (finally):

cd c:\BootCamp5.1.5722\BootCamp\Drivers\Apple

and to "run", to type: Bootcamp.msi

Then it worked! I'm slow. Thanks so the guidance.

Craig


macoy said:
Hello Good Sir... we have the same Macbook Pro 13inch mid-2010 model.. the following instructions also worked with my (unsupported) MBP:

"After Windows 10 is up and running:
  1. Download Boot Camp 5.1.5722 Drivers

  2. Extract the Drivers on the Desktop...

  3. Run CMD or PowerShell as administrator (Use the combination Shift + fn + F10 for right-click)

  4. CD (change directory) into BootCamp5.1.5722/BootCamp/Drivers/Apple

  5. Run 'BootCamp.msi'
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I was follow your instruction but when i install botcamp.msi bootcamp5.1.5769 there is message “bootcamp requires that your computer running windows7”
For you information:
I use iMac late 2009 21,5 inch model 10,1 and running windows home 10 64bit upgrade from windows home 7 32bit
Could explain thats message and how to fix it, thank you
 
It's been almost 10 years since this solution was posted
macenied said:
Edit:
BootCamp 6 has been rolled out now. Before you apply the solutions discussed in this thread, please check the BootCamp 6 thread first.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...6-no-support-for-systems-before-2012.1907386/

Start:

Working with OS X Mavericks and BootCamp Windows 7 Pro I have not been very interested in my MacBook Pro compatibility related to Win 8/8.1. In fact, the MBP mid 2010 13" model 7.1 is not supported by Apple for Win 8/8.1.

This week everything changed for me with the technical preview of Windows 10. It seems to be good and I am considering it as my next second OS ( beside OS X ) on my MBP.

Here is the problem: If you just install the drivers from BootCamp distributions, they will install but some of them will not work. Reason for this is that BootCamp.exe needs to run on your Windows installation, so that you will have full Keyboard support including backlight, Touchpad support, OS X filesystem support and so on. But the Windows BootCamp Setup kicks you out and reports an "unsupported hardware".

Now, here is the solution:

BootCamp Installation for "unsupported Mac's" - W8 / W8.1 / W10
---------------------------------------------------------------

a) Download BootCamp 5.1.5621.zip <=== please choose the most recent version for your system ===>
b) Create a folder C:\Insttemp WX
c) Copy the downloaded file to C:\Insttemp WX
d) Extract the downloaded file to C:\Insttemp WX ( so that you can see a C:\Insttemp WX\Bootcamp folder after extraction )
e) Navigate to C:\Insttemp WX\BootCamp\Drivers\Apple
f) Right-click on "BootCamp" and select "Troubleshoot Compatibility"
g) Click "Test the program, ignore the message about more needed rights and exit the program
h) In the Start menu, search for "cmd.exe" and run as administrator
i) Change directory to C:\Insttemp WX\BootCamp\Drivers\Apple
j) Execute "BootCamp.msi" and follow the instructions
k) Reboot your system as advised from the BootCamp installation program
l) Enjoy your "unsupported" Mac

On some systems ( like my MacBook Pro 13", mid 2010, model 7,1 ) other device drivers are required as well. You can check this using the device manager. In my case it was "Other devices - Coprocessor" and "Other devices - SM Bus Controller".

Additional Steps for my MacBook Pro
-----------------------------------

m) Delete all contents of C:\Insttemp WX
n) Download BootCamp 4.0.4033.zip <=== please choose the most recent version for your system ===>
o) Copy the downloaded file to C:\Insttemp WX
p) Extract the downloaded file to C:\Insttemp WX ( so that you can see a C:\Insttemp WX\Bootcamp folder after extraction )
q) In device manager, navigate to "Other devices - Coprocessor" and select it
r) Driver -> Update driver -> Browse my computer for driver software -> C:\Insttemp WX\BootCamp\Drivers\NVidia\NVidiaChipset64\SMU and click next. Wait until the update is finished.
s) In device manager, navigate to "Other devices - SM Bus Controller" and select it
t) Driver -> Update driver -> Browse my computer for driver software -> C:\Insttemp WX\BootCamp\Drivers\NVidia\NVidiaChipset64\SMBUS and click next. Wait until the update is finished.
u) Reboot your Mac

You are done.

:)
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It's been 10 years almost but this gift keeps on giving. Just used this on a Win 8.1 install on a 2009 White Macbook. Still a beauty. The trackpad issue was driving me nuts until I found your post. Thank you!
 
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