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If I'm not mistaken, Lion requires Snow Leopard, which contains Leopard, which contains the iLife stuff.

iLife is not part of OS X, it just happens to be bundled and pre-installed on new Macs, if you do a clean reinstall of Mac OS X from the OS X installation DVD you wont have it, you have to reinstall iLife yourself from the Application Install DVD. If you buy a newer version of OS X you don't get a new version of iLife
 
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Isn't it ironic that while they've just added a welcome intro to the iOS they remove it from OSX.
 
Its pretty cool. I wish there was more changes, like really noticeable changes. Oh well, give me my iPhone 5, lol.
 
For the developers out there:

Any show-stoppers or is Lion REALLY ready for launch? Any particular feature you like the most? Thanks for the feedback!

There are ways to get it even if you aren't a developer.

To answer your question Lion is REALLY good. The biggest improvement has to be the new animations.

Ex. In Safari you had 3 finger swipe in 10.6 for forward and backward but not being able to see the swipe in action kinda made you not want to use it. Now you can two finger swipe left and right with the pages appearing in real time. Just like changing pages on the iPhone. Also the Safari scrolling speed in general is a lot faster. It seems more responsive too, maybe it's because they finally made it s a 64 bit app.

All my Files in Finder is cool. Macintosh HD not being under My Devices from the get-go is the biggest flaw, it took me a few minutes to figure out how to add it. hint: click the title bar.
 
Apple could have made Lion so it would delete the Intro Video after it's done playing.

They sure made Lion so it would delete the Lion installer.app after install, which is very annoying.

I went to copy it to my other Macs and it was gone. Also, you have to completely download Lion again to reinstall the OS using the new recovery partition. It doesn't store the installer.app there either.

I'm surprised the odd recovery partition hasn't gotten much coverage. It actually phones home to Apple to verify that you purchased Lion on your Apple ID.
 
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Could this be interpreted as Apple now taking a tougher stance on OS piracy?

I'm interested how this would work if the machine has no internet connection - I'd assume it's similar to the Dev previews and it'll just bomb out with an error.
 
I'm just happy that the trackpad bug is gone in the GM! Now I don't have to dread restarting my MBP, lol.
 
The difference between Mac and PC is that Mac has something like an intro video.

I remember having some buyers remorse when I first switched, but as soon as I turned on the machine and that video played, I knew I made the right choice. Is the video stupid/needless? Perhaps, but that doesn't matter. So many things that are essential to the Mac experience are.

Wrapping on a present – useless or part of the magic? Sure, if you have to unwrap everything you want to use it'd get annoying. But for most of us that video was a nice touch to the experience of getting a new Mac.
 
They sure made Lion so it would delete the Lion installer.app after install, which is very annoying.

I went to copy it to my other Macs and it was gone. Also, you have to completely download Lion again to reinstall the OS using the new recovery partition. It doesn't store the installer.app there either.

Now this is exactly what many of us feared would be the case. All those clever, know-it-all developers condescendingly assuring us that this wouldn't happen...and now it has. Bad news! :mad:
 
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It was the same for Developer Preview 4 :)
 
They sure made Lion so it would delete the Lion installer.app after install, which is very annoying.

I went to copy it to my other Macs and it was gone. Also, you have to completely download Lion again to reinstall the OS using the new recovery partition. It doesn't store the installer.app there either.

I'm surprised the odd recovery partition hasn't gotten much coverage. It actually phones home to Apple to verify that you purchased Lion on your Apple ID.

Wow, that is messed up. All that talk about how Apple doesn't need to care about piracy and how you wont have the insufferable hassle of a license key as in Windows, and now this!?
 
It does boot though it still needs to download files off the internet for it to install at least with the GM
I'm certainly prepared to be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the case.

I suspect that when it says "downloading" on that screen, it really means copying. As in creating/copying the installer files to the new recovery partition.

I say this because my MBP wasn't connected to the internet during this 20-something minute "download" process. Then it rebooted and the 33-minute installation occurred.
 
Wrapping on a present – useless or part of the magic? Sure, if you have to unwrap everything you want to use it'd get annoying. But for most of us that video was a nice touch to the experience of getting a new Mac.

Agreed. I don't see why Apple should delete a small video file that actually showcased the essential user-friendliness difference between Macs and PCs.

I alone have switched at least 15 different people over the years and can assure you that, especially for less technically-savvy users, the welcome video was a nice little touch that demonstrated Apple's "one more thing" approach to its customers.

In other words: if this is true it's surely a dry and uncalled for move by Apple.
 
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In all due respects it is clear that those who are whining haven't seen the installation - when the installer reboots you're greeted by the installer that has 'welcome' in a variety of languages in the window background - sure it is no 'fly through space' but it is hardly the end of the world. Most end users will never see it as they'll either get the new Mac OS X with their new computer or get their 'tech friend' to upgrade it for them.

As for the operating system itself, I did a clean install and it is very smooth , a lot more so than previous releases such as Leopard, Snow Leopard and Tiger.
 
Now this is exactly what many of us feared would be the case. All those clever, know-it-all developers condescendingly assuring us that this wouldn't happen...and now it has. Bad news! :mad:

I am a clever, know-it-all developer, and I can assure you that the world will NOT actually end when Lion is released as a download, and that you'll be just fine, one way or another. Trust me, I'm a developer.
 
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