Would this be the Starfleet Academy or the Vulcan Science Academy?
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Bowdoin College to Provide Every Student With a Complimentary MacBook Pro, iPad Mini, and Apple Pencil
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I am not sure, I am only aware of the process and not involved in the actual planning. I am sure they would just be in JAMF like our normal owned machines. I know they are mostly concerned with students not keeping software up to date over the 4 years. We have students that come in with personal MacBooks running Sierra and even in a few rare instances, El Capitan.
While that is technically true, the reason people choose these certain types of liberal arts schools and basically every school with a super high tuition is the network which those colleges provide. I’m not saying any single part of it is right, but it’s flat out the way it is and we have no control over it.
Bowdoin and others simply have a much greater opportunity to break into better starting positions and desired companies than whatever state community college(and most other schools)you say offers the same outcome for less money.
I’m in the medical field and your ceiling is almost essentially set in stone based on the med school and/or residencies you went to. If you didn’t go to a “top” school or get a residency at a top hospital(you get those by going to “top” schools) then it’s basically impossible for someone to end up at a top hospital. This is increasingly the case in plenty of career paths. These colleges are all about their network reach.
All the obvious WTFs aside... The 18-yo art school me would have crap'd himself to be given a MBP, iPad mini and Pencil with the option to buy for $1 afterward graduating. Granted, I was on the 7-yr program...
Do they offer online programs?
Do they offer online programs?
Parents won't pay for a nice MacBook but are willing to go into debt for your education? I think we can fix that for you …
Somehow people don’t understand this. It’s like when Apple includes the charging cables they are not giving it to you for free. It’s just included in the price. That’s like saying Ford is giving you a free tank of gas when you buy a new car. Trust me it’s added into the price ?
Rich folks at Rich folks school getting Rich folks tools..
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With that tuition, the devices are hardly "complimentary"
News at 6
With that tuition, the devices are hardly "complimentary"
let me translate...."we'll bake the cost into this years 87% tuition increase and say it's free". No wonder we have people with $300K in debt with an ancient french literature degree.
PSA: Nothing is free!
PSA: Nothing is free!
I do Powerpoints and the Air isn't enough. When you're working with graphics, you need max RAM.
You're also not counting that half of their students got financial aid this year, with an average grant of $55,000.
I'm a professor at a small liberal arts college. I teach regression analysis and other data science topics.
I would LOVE it if all my students had the same gear. Right now, I have students with different computers, different operating systems, different office suite software for papers & spreadsheets - some installed on their computers and some web-based ones like Google Docs. I also have low-income students that have very old and/or very cheap laptops, not all of which are capable of running the data analysis software I teach students to use for their projects.
I don't think Bowdoin is doing this to attract students with "free" computer gear. Nobody is stupid enough to fall for that, and most students who go there probably already have their own computers and wouldn't be tempted by the offer.
Bowdoin is doing this to exploit the educational benefits of having a common platform, common gear, common software, common capabilities - and for the relative ease of providing tech support to a population that's all using the same hardware & software.
Also, Bowdoin's program insures that students from across the income spectrum all have quality gear.
I would LOVE it if all my students had the same gear. Right now, I have students with different computers, different operating systems, different office suite software for papers & spreadsheets - some installed on their computers and some web-based ones like Google Docs. I also have low-income students that have very old and/or very cheap laptops, not all of which are capable of running the data analysis software I teach students to use for their projects.
I don't think Bowdoin is doing this to attract students with "free" computer gear. Nobody is stupid enough to fall for that, and most students who go there probably already have their own computers and wouldn't be tempted by the offer.
Bowdoin is doing this to exploit the educational benefits of having a common platform, common gear, common software, common capabilities - and for the relative ease of providing tech support to a population that's all using the same hardware & software.
Also, Bowdoin's program insures that students from across the income spectrum all have quality gear.
If they are supplying the M1 MBP13 in Fall 2022, then that will still be available it seems. So much for some rumors about M2.
Seems like a really nice combo for new students to use.
Basically what large corporations do though my experience is that companies offer a choice of Lenovo or Apple.
I'm from Cambridge, UK.
Our train station was built in 1845 and it's located 10-15 minutes walk from the centre.
Why?
Because Cambridge University wanted to make it slightly more difficult for their students to go to London to party.
Medical school is very unique - most (but not all) career paths aren't quite so set in stone.
Anyway, under various conditions many of the private schools can be cheaper than the state schools. For example, at Bowdoin, 51% of the students receive some form of scholarship and the average scholarship awarded is 50k per year. While Bowdoin, Middleburry, Williams, etc certainly do have a certain reputation, things are changing fast and certainly not as clear cut as many assume.
If yu look at the enrollment page it says that average tution after scolarship help and financial assistane is $22,000.
That's less than many state schools.
That's less than many state schools.
As usual, a lot of opinions, but not a lot of information. Bowdoin College is one of the most selective schools in the country. Approximately 91% of all applicants are rejected. It is also one of the wealthiest. Their endowment is nearly $3 Billion dollars, but they have fewer than 1,800 total students. It has been around for for over 225 years. Some of their famous alumni include Former President Franklin Pierce, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Reed Hastings (the founder of Netflix), Robert Peary (of North Pole fame), numerous Supreme Court Justices, numerous US Senators, members of presidential cabinets, and UN ambassadors, and Peter Buck (co-founder of the Subway Sandwich chain). They don't need to do this to attract students.
I'm not aware of any state universities that charge $22,000 for tuition for in-state students. Out-of-state? Yes. But many basically operate as private schools for out-of-state students.
Lots of talk about how the total cost per year to go to this school is around $76K, which is true. But did anybody bother to play with the MyinTuition "Quick College Cost Estimator" on the tuition page for the college? I did. I live in the south, so it's much cheaper to live here, but regardless of that... I live in a fairly average and modest home for our area, valued at around $200K, and still owe somewhere around $85K on it. The AGI of my wife and myself is shy of 6 figures still with an extremely low 5 figures in the bank. We have twin boys who will eventually both be entering college at the same time, should they decide to go that route over a trade school. I didn't enter anything about retirement accounts because it says that info isn't factored into the estimator.
Result? My contribution (per kid) would be $8,000 per year, each kid would contribute $2,200 by completing a work study program on campus, and the need-based scholarship amount would be $66,100. Nearly half of this year's incoming class received aid, and the average grant was well over $50K.
**Interesting side note on the work study program. The average enrollment is only 1,800 students, but they claim to have 2,500+ on campus jobs available. Not sure how that math works out...?
Result? My contribution (per kid) would be $8,000 per year, each kid would contribute $2,200 by completing a work study program on campus, and the need-based scholarship amount would be $66,100. Nearly half of this year's incoming class received aid, and the average grant was well over $50K.
**Interesting side note on the work study program. The average enrollment is only 1,800 students, but they claim to have 2,500+ on campus jobs available. Not sure how that math works out...?
I'll pay double! Do I hear $3 for the four year old MacBook Pro, iPad mini, and Apple Pencil?
I'm like a couple classes away from having an art history degree in addition to my design degree and marketing minor. Can I sign up for a part-time semester online and get the Apple gear when I graduate in a few months?
I'm like a couple classes away from having an art history degree in addition to my design degree and marketing minor. Can I sign up for a part-time semester online and get the Apple gear when I graduate in a few months?
lol....a benefit for the university, not for the students. And a cost savings benefit...not even necessarily a quality benefit. Although perhaps by de-commodifying these devices they might lower the likelihood of theft. Or perhaps because there are going to be so many more devices floating around, there will be more chances to scoop them!
I don't blame students. They've been told for their entire life to do anything with their life, they need to go to college. They also are told after school with a degree they will be making 4-5 times what they did pre-college which is not always accurate either.
I blame the parents who make it seem you are only worthwhile if you have a degree.
Would your kids want to go to college in the middle of Maine and endure their winters having grown up in the South? Maine's state bird is known as the mosquito.
I used to work with a parent with a child with great scores and he applied to the University of Alabama and they, at least at one point, were willing to buy students with great stats. Maybe to improve the average to attract more students or to improve the student body academic environment. He went there (from Massachusetts) for a few thousand a year. I'd guess that the in-state students aren't happy that they are spending money on recruiting out-of-state students.
I've never been to Bowdoin though I've passed through the area on the highway many times. I don't personally know any graduates from there either.