Could have been Lydia for all we know. We also don't know exactly how much time elapsed between Jesse leaving and Walt collapsing. Otherwise, wouldn't the police have encountered him driving by?
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Breaking Bad - Awaiting the Final Episodes **Spoilers**
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Could have been Lydia for all we know. We also don't know exactly how much time elapsed between Jesse leaving and Walt collapsing. Otherwise, wouldn't the police have encountered him driving by?
That was the burial site though. I don't think the two locations would have necessarily been connected.
These seem both like good scenarios, I guess I would have liked to have seen it. I agree we don't really know how remote they were, but I can't imagine their operation would be dumb enough to have nearby neighbors.
In the end, I wasn't concerned about it because I don't think it's logically impossible to imagine a scenario where they would come. Moreover, it wasn't even a necessary plot point in the show. It seemed more for dramatic effect.
According to this page an M60 machine gun is 155 dB pSPL. According to this chart, it would be louder than a jet engine at 30m.
They were isolated but had a large fence. It's not unthinkable that they had buildings in the fenced in area to protect them from view. In general I don't think they were terribly loud. They killed the one gal on her doorstep just fine. Of course that doesn't mean the sustained gunfire brought the cops, but anybody nearby or driving nearby would likely have heard it, especially due to the duration.
My theory is that Walt called the police before he went in the compound. That makes the most sense because no one else knew where they were aside from Lydia who had issues of her own to contend with. Not only that, the police were turning the bend when she learned Walt was there and responsible for her "health" issue. There's no way she could've called them, explained it all and they be en route and there within a couple of minutes.
You know, this whole show was Hank's fault. If he hadn't gone over to Walt's house to brag up his big drug bust by gathering the family around the evening news, Walt never would have seen the whole cash pile they seized and subsequent DEA ride along where he saw Jesse.
Just sayin'
You know, this whole show was Hank's fault. If he hadn't gone over to Walt's house to brag up his big drug bust by gathering the family around the evening news, Walt never would have seen the whole cash pile they seized and subsequent DEA ride along where he saw Jesse.
Just sayin'
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I'm going w/ him calling 911 before/after/3 way call, he called Lydia to tell her about the Ricin which is why he throws the phone and doesn't break it so they can still locate his coordinates.
I doubt Walt called the police. He wasn't expecting to be shot accidentally, he wasn't expecting Jesse to kill him, and I have a feeling he wasn't going to kill himself. And we all know he wouldn't want to go away in handcuffs. I think it was just another logical plot hole.
Another post I found interesting on The NYT this morning - A Clear Ending to a Mysterious Beginning: The Final Episode of 'Breaking Bad' Leaves One Question Unanswered
I always was a bit surprised they never fleshed out the Gray Matter story in all the seasons. In one way, I could see it as being unnecessary side plot, but when they brought back Gretchen and Elliott in this season, it would be hard to make that argument.
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I know that's two pointed posts regarding Breaking Bad following the series finale. It still is an amazing show with a fitting finale, but just can't help think about it.
Another post I found interesting on The NYT this morning - A Clear Ending to a Mysterious Beginning: The Final Episode of 'Breaking Bad' Leaves One Question Unanswered
I always was a bit surprised they never fleshed out the Gray Matter story in all the seasons. In one way, I could see it as being unnecessary side plot, but when they brought back Gretchen and Elliott in this season, it would be hard to make that argument.
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I know that's two pointed posts regarding Breaking Bad following the series finale. It still is an amazing show with a fitting finale, but just can't help think about it.
He said to Skyler that the police/DEA would be coming to him, so he absolutely didn't expect to walk away alive or not in custody.
But no one knew his connections to Jack and his crew. Clearly their compound was a bit off the beaten path and contained, so there was no way to connect Jack to Walt. Skylar didn't really know who they were.
I understand that comment was to set up/sort of justify the police finding him in the end, but it's a pretty flawed process. It's basically saying go from Point A to Point C and who cares about B or how you get there. Just a small casualty of having the episode wrap up every loose end as quickly and neatly as possible.
I don't see how it matters. I can think of multiple ways the police would know, none of which are essential to the plot. I don't think it breaks the immersion or believability. The idea that Walt can drive cross country and around his hometown, enter his family's residence, sit in on a meeting in a public place, find Badger and Skinny Pete and go to a hardware store unrecognized is much more implausible than how the police would show up without us being told how, yet I bought into those things because they weren't outright implausible and I could see how it could happen.
Remember the manhunt for Christopher Dorner several months back? He was staying nearby where the cops were looking right under the noses and they didn't find him until he initiated a confrontation with a third party, non-police force individual. NM has a lot of rural desert areas where cops aren't going to be swarming around.
Remember the manhunt for Christopher Dorner several months back? He was staying nearby where the cops were looking right under the noses and they didn't find him until he initiated a confrontation with a third party, non-police force individual. NM has a lot of rural desert areas where cops aren't going to be swarming around.
I think that little incident, so rooted in the origins of the character we eventually saw, is left entirely up to us. Was he cheated by Elliot and Gretchen? Did they force him out like he thinks they did? Or did his own pride and ego override his common sense, causing him to overreact and do something pointlessly drastic?
It's an interesting thing to leave hanging, because it leaves the entire show up to your own interpretation. If it's the former, then Breaking Bad is the story about a man finally standing up for himself, taking control of his own life, and eventually becoming intoxicated by the power he finds. The latter? It's a show about a brilliant man who could never find true, lasting success and happiness due to his own deep personality flaws. We're watching history repeat itself on a much larger, more more dangerous scale.
Everything in BB is colored by how we interpret the scenes between Gretchen, Elliot, and Walt. This is why we'll never know what exactly happened all those years ago. We weren't meant to know.
I actually think it was the perfect ending. Gilligan got us again. Walt redeemed himself as much as he possibly could have. He figured out a way to get his money to his family. He came to terms within himself that he did it all for himself. He killed the men that killed Hank. He protected Jesse from the gunfire so he could be freed. That's the best he could do to redeem himself with Jesse after all that had gone down between them. He helped his wife avoid prosecution by giving here something to deal with.
And he died in the meth lab, so he will be remembered for "Baby Blue" A very dad ending, but Walt actually did win if that is even possible to say. He could never overcome everything that had happened during the course of his meth run, but he did what he could at the end to make things right.
I thought that the Sopranos was the best show I had ever seen, until Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad started off with the pedal to the metal and stayed that way for 5 seasons. There was rarely a let up in the drama and it actually intensified in the final 8 episodes. And I think that there is a bit of Walter White in all of us. He was a character that everyone could relate to in some way.
Well done Gilligan and Company. It may be a while before we see anything of this caliber again. It was a masterpiece of acting, writing, directing, filming, editing, music, you name it, it was there at the highest level.
I for one am quite sad to see it end and not ashamed to admit that I shed a tear of emotion at the end. A brilliant piece of artwork.
I was very impressed with Gunn's and Cranston's performances yet again. Gunn looked hollow, like a shell of a woman at the end. And the relief she had was palpable when Walt finally owned up to his motivations.
And the dead look in Walt's eyes admitting that all. He had that thousand yard stare like he was already dead. We saw the same look when he actually died. If he doesn't win best actor again, I'll be beyond shocked. BB should win best drama again and I think they have a very strong case for best supporting actor and actress again.
I finished watching it an hour ago.
In the hour since I echo Jazwire's comment from an earlier post:
"Though I feel like I just lost a best friend..
I actually am feeling slightly depressed the show is over."
My overall thoughts about that final episode basically chime with Applescruff's in the above post 366. Very succinctly put.
The conversation between Walt and Skyler in the kitchen, his holding Holly, and his softly-walked exit from the bedroom I found to be genuinely moving.
The ending - his patting the steel chamber, falling to the ground, and the look on his face, was for me at least, an absolutely perfect ending.
... and the subtle nod to Jesse as he informed Lydia of her imminent fate.
In that episode, Walt did enough.
.
God I'm gonna miss this show.
In the hour since I echo Jazwire's comment from an earlier post:
"Though I feel like I just lost a best friend..
I actually am feeling slightly depressed the show is over."
My overall thoughts about that final episode basically chime with Applescruff's in the above post 366. Very succinctly put.
The conversation between Walt and Skyler in the kitchen, his holding Holly, and his softly-walked exit from the bedroom I found to be genuinely moving.
The ending - his patting the steel chamber, falling to the ground, and the look on his face, was for me at least, an absolutely perfect ending.
... and the subtle nod to Jesse as he informed Lydia of her imminent fate.
In that episode, Walt did enough.
.
God I'm gonna miss this show.
And how about Marty Robbin's El Paso for the opening song and Badfinger's Baby Blue at the end? When Baby Blue started playing it kind of ripped your heart out.
The one thing I found amazing was how it took a character I thought was nearly irredeemable, yet somehow managed to turn it all around at the end so that not only did he earn himself a small measure of redemption, but he still ended up getting just about everything he truly wanted after the dust settled. And it all happened without feeling forced or contrived at all.
I was expecting horrible, gutwrenching, bloody, and ultimately tragic. I thought the only truly satisfying ending would be one that ends up with Walt's utter damnation. What we got was...well...tragic, but in a bittersweet, low key sort of way. It was a sad victory, but not a hollow one.
And it was damn good.
My heart was already being squeezed too tightly just seeing Walt walking through the lab, almost feeling as though he'd 'come home'.
The slow fall, leaving his blood on the metal, and seeing in his face that in his final glimmer of awareness he'd found something to hold onto, just about finished me off.
Two hours later my chest still hurts.
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In that final episode of Bad, I felt for Walt so much, that it took me by surprise.
My favourite word - verisimilitude.
Walt feels more real to me, than most so-called human beings I happen across in this world.
The slow fall, leaving his blood on the metal, and seeing in his face that in his final glimmer of awareness he'd found something to hold onto, just about finished me off.
Two hours later my chest still hurts.
.
In that final episode of Bad, I felt for Walt so much, that it took me by surprise.
My favourite word - verisimilitude.
Walt feels more real to me, than most so-called human beings I happen across in this world.
The subtlety behind BB's shots are truly stunning to me. Seeing walt & skylar in the kitchen with the wall divider between them was a throw back to several shots throughout the series. As the series got further along the visual separation on screen continually grows. Last time it was just the edge of a bookcase that was separating them, this time it was at least twice as large.
Every time I see this show I can't believe the complexity behind EVERYTHING. Truly spectacular writing & cinematography in perfect harmony.
RIP
Every time I see this show I can't believe the complexity behind EVERYTHING. Truly spectacular writing & cinematography in perfect harmony.
RIP
Unless Homeland comes out swinging this season, BB most likely wins best Drama next year. Just don't see Thrones or Boardwalk challenging it.
Cranston is a virtual lock. Even if there are better performances (John Hamm), he'll win it as it's his last shot. Plus, with AMC deciding to split the final season of Mad Men over 2 years, it makes the decision easier; Cranston next year, Hamm the year after.
I'm also starting the movement now, Bob Odenkirk as Saul Goodman for outstanding comedy actor. The show has to be a comedy right...
That whole scene, music, acting, directing, and everything came together so perfectly, didn't it?
It was perfect. And who would have ever thought it would end that way? I keep telling myself, it's only a TV show. But it sure did bring out strong feelings and emotions over the last few years.