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Only the few people that live in the middle of a desert by themselves. Other people typically have a friend or know someone with an iPhone.
Agreed. Many people know or live with someone who has an iPhone (any will do, it just needs to transfer the firmware over), or they have access to a Mac or PC. Worst case, you bring it to Apple for repair. No reason to buy another phone just to do this recovery, I would think.
 
They added this feature to the Apple Watch and removed the hidden diagnostics port.
They added this feature to the Apple TV and removed the USB port.
The iPhone is next to lose its USB port.
 
If you can talk to it by definition it’s not a brick!

That’s the whole point of the expression: you turned it from a functional device into something no different from a brick.

jeez!
 
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Ok I've come to accept that "brick" never exactly means "permanently non-functional" anymore; it always exactly means "non-functional" and as such you have to read context to find out if it's permanent, temporary, or unstated. No more confusion 👍
 
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Ok I've come to accept that "brick" never exactly means "permanently non-functional" anymore; it always exactly means "non-functional" and as such you have to read context to find out if it's permanent, temporary, or unstated. No more confusion 👍
Bricked just means non-operational; what you’re talking about is permanently bricked.
 
Side note-
Ok I've come to accept that "brick" never exactly means "permanently non-functional" anymore; it always exactly means "non-functional" and as such you have to read context to find out if it's permanent, temporary, or unstated. No more confusion 👍
Yep. People love use word bricked for anything goes wrong and black screen for temporary, etc. It makes headline look more dramatic if word bricked used than any other words.

Bricked is rare, most of time it is not bricked, just temporary crashed.
 
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Another indication of a portless phone? I can't imagine the Pro going portless now, since they advertised those capabilities so much. Even in the regular phone and SE, I think people would not like the compromise given how universally useful USB-C now is.

I can only imagine it for the rumored "thin" iPhone. In that form factor they can experiment and gauge the reaction.
I don’t use the ports on my 15 pm anyway I wireless charge over night and use my AirPod pros so no wires needed I actually prefer it
 
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The AirPods 4 case isn’t magnetic. Apple may remove the magnets from the AirPods Pro 3 case.

The reverse wireless charging would be for AirPods, not charging other phones.
They could do that, but personally, I think the magnets on the AirPods case provide greater utility than reverse charging would.

I've never run out of AirPods (case) battery before my phone died, so I don't really see a use case for charging the AirPods with your phone. And as soon as you're able to charge your phone, you can also charge your AirPods with the exact same hardware (USB-C, MagSafe, Qi or even an Apple Watch charger).

Sacrificing magnets for a good alignment on the charger would be a downgrade for me. I've had several occasions where I put my AirPods Pro gen 1 (no magnets) on a Qi charger only to wake up the next morning to find that they either didn't charge at all or sometimes even fully discharged instead (while being hot).
 
Apple can’t go port less unless they include a MagSafe charger or advertise the iPhone cost to where it includes the cost of a separate MagSafe charger.

Besides, the Pros won’t go portless because they will lose TB4 data transfer, the ability to import files from a camera, and SSD video recording.

I’m not buying a portless iPhone.
 
Not sure why they'd make it require another iOS device tbh. Makes sense for an Apple TV since your interface is a remote, but why not go all the way and just make iOS devices have internet recovery? I'd think that would be faster as well.
 
Not sure why they'd make it require another iOS device tbh. Makes sense for an Apple TV since your interface is a remote, but why not go all the way and just make iOS devices have internet recovery? I'd think that would be faster as well.
How can it have internet recovery if it's bricked and can't connect to the internet?
 
But you still can’t load your music library onto the phone without a computer. Surely just an oversight on Apple’s part.
 
Bricked just means non-operational; what you’re talking about is permanently bricked.
That's exactly what I said.

But FYI, that's not what "bricked" used to mean. It originally meant "permanently non-operational" (ie. it is essentially a metal/glass brick) because one word was easier to say than two--it was shorthand. But because people misused it so much, it became just another word for "non-operational". So we no longer have one word to mean "permanently non-operational" and we're back to having to say "permanently".
 
Yep. People love use word bricked for anything goes wrong and black screen for temporary, etc. It makes headline look more dramatic if word bricked used than any other words.

Bricked is rare, most of time it is not bricked, just temporary crashed.
I suspect you're right, it is used for dramatic effect and gets more attention.

But it seems to me that is the new official meaning ("not necessarily permanently broken"), simply because that is how it's most commonly used. Language evolves on its own, it can't (easily) be controlled. It's just annoying during these transition periods when a word's meaning changes.
 
That's exactly what I said.

But FYI, that's not what "bricked" used to mean. It originally meant "permanently non-operational" (ie. it is essentially a metal/glass brick) because one word was easier to say than two--it was shorthand. But because people misused it so much, it became just another word for "non-operational". So we no longer have one word to mean "permanently non-operational" and we're back to having to say "permanently".
Schroedinger’s Bricked iPhone is both frozen and bricked until you try and recover it.
 
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So Apple wants you to buy second iphone
Or, you know, ask a friend or family member who has an iPhone. Or use a computer of any kind like how it was done before they added this feature. Worst case scenario you bring it to an Apple Store. There are plenty of options besides buying a second phone.
 
I wonder if this dedicated recovery partition will result in less available storage. Factoring in the whole GiB/GB 1000/1024 bits to a byte thing and the space used for iOS itself you get something like 230GB available on a 256GB phone (I forget the exact number).

It would suck if the space was reduced by another 8GB or so because of a recovery partition. Something that is convenient in some situations but let's face it, the vast majority of people will never need to use this feature.
You assume the need for a recovery partition that needs local storage. Phone A in recovery > Phone B pulls necessary restore files from Apple servers
 
How can it have internet recovery if it's bricked and can't connect to the internet?
Same concept as on a Mac. Internet recovery on Mac doesn't need any type of recovery partition present on internal storage to initiate. I assume there is some separate read only chip than can initiate a very basic connection to Apple servers which loads a live recovery partition into RAM. For example, when you completely wipe a Mac's internal storage, recovery partition and all, you can still boot to internet recovery, and once it's loaded you can use Disk Utility to see a mounted disk image. And besides, if iPhones now get a recovery partition, why wouldn't they make it work like a Mac recovery partition? Even if your boot volume is damaged or erased you can still use the recovery partition without the need of another device as Apple is implying here. Either way you look at it, having a second device seems unnecessary, but still a welcome feature.
 
While iOS 18 enables any compatible device to assist in restoring a non-functional iPhone, it appears that wireless restoration is currently limited to iPhone 16 models.
Unfortunately hearing this is hardware limitation, so it is likely not coming to older models at all. A18 chip has updated Secure Enclave that allows remote restore.

(I just finally watched Apple event and catching up on Apple news after avoiding it for three months so apologies for weird reply post here)
 
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