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"Apple is still discussing the inclusion of a steering wheel, which may be required so people can take over in an emergency situation."

Yeah. No s*&^.
 
Ugly looking concept that should stay a concept. And why do designers think an EV needs a front grill? Useless cosmetics design to appease I.C.E fans, I’m guessing.
 
The uglier it is, the more hits, clicks, and comments - that's all this is.
But those "coach" doors could never, ever, work. The radius needed to fully open them would never be available in a typical parking lot.
 
Did they mention the reason for putting in such a large, unnecessary grill in the front? I mean, it's not like there would be a radiator in the car.
 
Looks pretty ugly. I’d rather have a diesel and stick it to the government with their lies about carbon emissions and climate change
 
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already on the road
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Looks pretty ugly. I’d rather have a diesel and stick it to the government with their lies about carbon emissions and climate change
Exactly, leaving the car in the garage and sniffing the exhaust radically and courageously and liberated, I love that too, because then I can finally think clearly.
 
Sad. British designers have no idea of car development anymore. Their pictures show such a lack of understanding of the ABC for car designers that I feel sick (swivel seats without headroom, doors with hinges in the direction of travel, etc.). Just ignore them, they only want to attract attention.
 
Nothing gets me less excited then the "siri included" BS. Does anyone actually use that feature for anything else but setting timers and reminders? It's like Apple just wont quit on their ridiculously stupid AI assistant that nobody really uses. Rant over.
 
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"include Siri built into the steering column (based on a patent for an intelligent automated assistant"

Well, patents are often for things that don't actually exist yet.... so that would work for Siri as an intelligent automated assistant. Apple still hasn't created the intelligent part.

Siri is also the last AI on earth I would want assisting with a self-driving car.
 
We’re at least a decade out from not needing a steering wheel (if we ever get there at all).
I don't think we will see in our life times where a steering wheel won't be required as an emergency over ride.
The real barrier with a fully autonomous vehicle comes down to getting the AI to understand when there aren't lines on a road or when an exit it splitting from the main road and which way to follow (or in weather conditions). The tech still relies too heavily on tracing the lines on roads, and if your roads are like ours in PA.... My car uses map data with visual scanning of the roads and is only self driving when on an interstate, but does a really great job. Still makes you keep your hands on the wheel though.
Good joke.. now show us something Apple would actually make.
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They did put a computer inside a trash can once.... and that was supposed to be their area of design excellence. Then they slapped a cheese grater on it's replacement.... so who knows what the Apple car will or won't look like.
 
Not surprised in the least by all the snark coming out of the comments here (sometimes forget this is a gathering place for apple haters more than anything) but it’s fun to think of all the crow everyone here will be eating when everyone and their dog is lining up to buy one of these things. Ten years from now every surviving car manufacturer out there will be aping these concepts while apple dominates the market.
Really not seeing any apple hate alive in the comments you seemed to not have read, but seeing a universal dislike for the design.
 
I appreciate the temptation to view a vehicle as a computer with wheels, now that electric drivetrain and self-driving are viable and interesting.

Nonetheless, Apple need beware: stick to the core competency, which for Apple is "flat computers with supporting ecosystem"; deviating from the core usually kills the company.
I've seen this happen too many times to unstoppable juggernauts.

As Tesla found, building a car company is very hard.
As long-established car companies are finding, building electric cars is very hard.

There is far more to a vehicle than wheels, seats, UI, and a flat computer.

Agree with much of your thoughts, but the physical car is the easier part. Apple is great at taking other people's designs and inventions and making them their own. That's kind of their strength actually, not inventing new things, but reinventing other people's inventions from their design and user experience point of view.

Apple's problem is the software side, more specifically the AI component. They are universally, and rightfully, panned as the worse in industry in this segment. Google has created some concept cars, but they don't plan to actually build cars. They don't need to. Automakers are partnering with Google and Amazon left and right on AI technologies (which is where they will make money). I have full faith Apple can come up with a car design. Would you trust an AI powered vehicle run by Siri and Apple's AI platform and mapping technology?

I can only imagine asking Siri to take me to work, and it taking me to a crack house instead.
 
Yes - I understand that you feel like that, so do I.

But there are many reasons to skip the not-quite-self-driving stage. Like the possibility of people who for reasons such as bodily impairment cannot drive. Or, as I know all too well from someone close, can drive but has lost confidence in their body to do so safely and reliably.

Or the very simple wish to be able to have a drink or two and still get home.

Any need takeover, at all, renders the vehicle inaccessible.

I also have increasing concern about people who buy such cars, then run them in self-driving mode, and lose the experience and competence to takeover.

Although I learned on cars with manual gearboxes, I haven't driven one for several years. I'd get used to one again quite quickly, but I'd much rather need to in a quiet backstreet than suddenly on a motorway! Obviously far from a likely scenario (no-one would fit a manual gearbox to an electric vehicle), but an illustration of how skills fade.

Until that comes, I'll be happy with well-designed driver "support" technologies.
Yeah, just saying that it shouldn't be an all-or-nothing route.
 
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Could they make the steering wheel swappable from one side to the other? Obviously the brake and accelerator would have to be on the steering wheel, but the ability to swap the side the wheel is on would make the car 'international ready', and flexible enough for purchasers that would need that capability, like post office workers that use their own vehicles. Just an idea...

How hard would it be to learn to control the car with hand controls. And think of the people that are paraplegics, they would have a car already able to be driven by them, saving expensive upgrades and attachments to enable their ability to drive it.
 
Meanwhile at another big tech secret car lab (/s):View attachment 1926140

And let us not forget, this could be worse. It could be Razer doing a car…

Or Kawasaki, John Deere, etc.

Thinking here of all the companies making those small golf-kart-on-steroids vehicles. Some states and counties had to enact legislation to make them illegal for road travel. I was stuck behind one on a county road earlier this year. Speed limit 55, that thing was straining to hit 40, and several cars were behind it, and the driver would not get off the road and allow people to pass them. Finally, they slowed down very slowly, and the car immediately behind them tried to pass them when they swerved to the left side of the road, and a driveway. They were nearly creamed that day. The thought of witnessing that possible accident stuck with me for days. Wow... Somethings you can't un-see, or apparently un-think? Yikes... (It was a Kawasaki)
 
Could they make the steering wheel swappable from one side to the other?

Steering wheel's shaft would have to be able to slide all the way across too. Difficult with many points of failure. It would also mean no central dashboard.

The cleanest option would be to have 'digital steering' with no need for a shaft. But digital systems fail and crash and without a mechanical and manual fail safe the vehicle would be bricked until it can be serviced.
 
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