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B Willis can sue, but Apple is the wrong target. Apple just do what the RIAA say it must by law do.

If you buy a music CD, you only own the media and the right to play it, you never own the "music/tune".
 
1. Because we all don't have enough pass codes to worry about. Now when the kids have kids, those kids get more pass codes and so on down the road. He wants to make it easy and legal.

2. again he wants to make it easy and legal

3. yea because I have time to do that with my library for my daughter.

4. I'm no where rich, why should I have to re-buy everything again for my kids, or anyone has to do the same? (Now the record companies would LOVE this idea for sure)

Guess you missed this part of my post.

Originally Posted by skellener
There should be a legitimate and easy way to simply transfer your entire library over to someone.
 
this is only the beginning of "licensing" things. i heard the next xbox and ps will have some control mechanism that "locks" the disc to be used on one console only and therefore u can't resell it either
 
Absolutely. I continue to buy CDS as well. Built-in back-up. Although I think leaving your children your music is a little bit silly. I mean' c'mon, how much of your parents music did you listen to when you were a kid? ;)

I do both, I have my moms Alice Cooper and others records. I grew up on it and because I had such a mix of different kinds of music I have a wide variety of music. My daughter loves some of the music I have and takes it and put it on her iPod.
Now I do buy CD's once in a while, I love the fact my music from iTunes is always back up. I dropped a box of CD's by accident moving stuff and broke a few of them, lost forever unless I buy it again (I do have them ripped on my iTunes). I don't have this issue with my iTunes music. Now yes I can back it up on hard drives (something else can break), but with iTunes, it's always there.
 
Populist drivel. What artist or label is going to make music available to you if there is no money to made in the process? Take it up with the rights holders (musicians, labels, etc.), not Apple.

Ha. Are you saying the whole business model is falling apart if we are able to pass our music down to our own kids? You got to be kidding. He`s not suing to be able to pass it to everyone on the internet. I seriously doubt that this will have a significant financial impact on the industry.

Notice that he doesn't standup for your "rights" to transfer movie rights. Isn't it always easier when we're talking about someone else's money?

Your right about this one. It should be included, but who knows what exactly he is suing for?

How can you not acknowledge that this is a good thing? We have judiciaty system to challenge the status quo, which in this case was mainly determined by the music industry. Now the court has to find out whether the people or the music industry are right. Again whats wrong about this?
 
"Musiclaundering" songs you don't have a license for doesn't make one less a pirate, it simply offers an easy and quick way to get away with it. Once you introduce piracy into the equation basically there is no discussion, you can simply download what you want.

Which is amusing, since they've specifically said "music you've gotten anywhere".

Oh nevermind, I'm not going to change your mind. I was just saying, there is an easy way to will your iTunes music collection.
 
Absolutely. I continue to buy CDS as well. Built-in back-up. Although I think leaving your children your music is a little bit silly. I mean' c'mon, how much of your parents music did you listen to when you were a kid? ;)

The Cars, OMD, Duran Duran, and Depeche Mode are all burned into my brain because thats all my parents listened to when I was a kid. It's also all I listen to today.
 
I agree with his at current prices.

People are crazy and pay the same price or more for poor digital copies over real higher quality physical media that is really theirs.

Books, Music, Films.

If it is effect only rented to you and you can't pass it on then it should be a small fraction of the price of the real thing.
 
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I agree with his at current prices.

People are crazy and pay the same price or more for poor digital copies over real higher quality physical media that is really theirs.

Books, Music, Films.

If it is effect only rented to you and you can't pass it on then it should be a small fraction of the price of the real thing.
you're paying for connivence, the servers they are on, the electricity they need to run the servers and keep them cool, and so on. I am willing to bet you can't even hear the difference and most people can't.
I like I can buy a song or CD with out going to the store or waiting for the mail to come. I also don't have to worry about running out of space storing them, which I am now in that predicament. I have 4 boxes on CD's in my basement taking up much needed space.
 
Naturally, on some indie albums, and most older stuff, the entire album is great, but most new music is crap, and most albums are a single with five filler tracks on either side. It's a reverse poop sandwich. I actually have all my old pink floyd, jethro tull, etc on vinyl!

Oh, well I wouldn't ever think about buying a new pop album. I consider all of the songs on those "filler tracks", especially that "I feel so close to you right now" song. Loooooooooooops :mad:
 
Uh... Okay, maybe I'm missing something. I just tried transferring a song that I recently purchased to my mother's computer, and it played just fine. I also transferred an older "protected" song that I purchased and haven't yet "upgraded" (I only have about six songs left in my library that fall into this category), and it immediately asked for my iTunes password.

So, why is my music not transferable? How is there DRM?

It seems to me that the notion that songs are tagged with iTunes user ID was debunked as a myth a long time ago.

In short, it seems that this is another case of people looking for reasons visit some hate on Apple, even if it's completely baseless....
 
The Cars, OMD, Duran Duran, and Depeche Mode are all burned into my brain because thats all my parents listened to when I was a kid. It's also all I listen to today.

Doors, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Eagles, Aram Khachaturian, Elyssa... Few of these were made after my birthday.
 
this is only the beginning of "licensing" things. i heard the next xbox and ps will have some control mechanism that "locks" the disc to be used on one console only and therefore u can't resell it either
Nah. That has been "heard" since before the 360 and PS3 were released. By making it a rumor it forces a response from both sides.
And there's no need to imply a vague "control mechanism" when it's purely as simple as entering a serial number to unlock the game. The same thing PC gaming has done for two decades. Linking it to an online activation is pretty straightforward.

Besides, console manufacturers are now on record stating they accept the used market because it is pro-consumer. The first console to shun it will lose the next race. Publishers have been fairly successful with season passes, online passes (aka serial numbers), and digital distribution is working perfectly well. Locking out retail discs and driving GameStop to bankruptcy might be good for the industry but terrible for consumers.
 
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Uh... Okay, maybe I'm missing something. I just tried transferring a song that I recently purchased to my mother's computer, and it played just fine. I also transferred an older "protected" song that I purchased and haven't yet "upgraded" (I only have about six songs left in my library that fall into this category), and it immediately asked for my iTunes password.

So, why is my music not transferable? How is there DRM?

It seems to me that the notion that songs are tagged with iTunes user ID was debunked as a myth a long time ago.

In short, it seems that this is another case of people looking for reasons visit some hate on Apple, even if it's completely baseless....

The songs are tagged with a user ID, but it doesn't check for the tag when deciding whether or not to play it.

The goal is "there's a new copy of a song running around. Oh look, it has a userID of 'reallystupidpirate@me.com'. I think someone's in big trouble."
 
So, why is my music not transferable? How is there DRM?

There is a difference between being able to do something and being allowed to do something. DRM attempted to restrict people transferring music etc, that has been removed in iTunes but that doesn't mean you have the right to transfer it. I agree it is a somewhat academic point now there is no DRM, but the underlying point still remains.
 
Too funny

I just laugh when I try to seriously visualize the family and loved ones gathered around the executor and lawyer, breathlessly awaiting the reading of the Will. . . . . "and the iTunes library goes to . . . "

Give me a break. :rolleyes:
 
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