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Well 31 years later there are alternatives ... costs less than $2000.

But...then you'd have to use it.

I've used a lot of cheaper computers in those 31 years. You always paid the difference in price with your time & irritation. Like the Dell notebook I had to send back 5 times for repair, until I got irritated enough to tear it apart - only to find the problem was the heat sink was dusty.

(A favorite radio ad for a upscale burger joint ended with "sure you could get a hamburger for a dollar...but then you'd have to eat it.")
 
5400rpm hhd and 512mb video ram on a computer that starts at $AU1429. Sign me up for one please! :rolleyes:
 
Time-saving plain maths (something I would have expected in the original post):

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High-end 27-inch (base price):          $1999
3 TB:                                    $150
Fusion Drives:                           $250
3.4 GHz Core i7:                         $200
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2 GB GDDR5:     $150
                                        -----
                                        $2749

32 GB RAM (if you're mad):               $600
                                        -----
                                        $3349

...you know where it's going...
 
Without reading pages of replies...

Saw that going from 8GB to 16GB ram is only $50.

$200 if you choose another combination.

Any advantages of one over the other?

Would rather pay the $50 than $200 to upgrade to 16GB
 
Just ordered mine for work. 27 high end, using expercom ram to 24 GBs of ram. Hope they don't cancel the order if they decide they can't install the ram there. (I've been a fan of Expercom for a while now)

As long as I'm not in a super rush, I always get my new computers from them.

Yes, it costs a lot, I'm not that happy about it but it should be a pretty machine at least.
 
600 dollars for 32gb of ram in the 27" is just plain evil. Why? Because anyone that pays it doesn't know any better, and Apple is perfectly willing to exploit those people. I just bought 32gb of ram for 150 dollars...

I guess these machines are seen by Apple as consumer computers, tailored for people who don't need/want/are to lazy to fool with upgrades. The option is there to upgrade but at an exorbitant price, which is nothing new.
 
wow, really nice pricing for 680MX.. I expected something like 350-500$ for it, since 680M (not MX) costs like the whole PC desktop with similar graphics power :)
 
Guys, over here in Europe we have to pay much more for the iMac. The best 27 ($1999) starts EUR 2049, that is $2650. Every upgrade is the same price in € like it is in $, so its 1,2x as expensive. Consider yourselves lucky to get the iMac this cheap over there.
 
ah crap. I had a feeling the prices this time round would be enough to make me switch back to PC. Given the way os x is going though it does make it a lot easier to switch in that regard too. :( Sad day for me

You're gonna love Windows 8.

Just kidding. No you aren't. :)

Sounds like a hackintosh is right up your alley.

Lilo777 has zero interest in Macs. Agitating Mac users is his thing.
 
I will never understand the rationalization that people keep trying to make about how "non-user customization" is never a bad a thing. It IS no matter which way you try to spin it. :(
 
Waiting for Rev B

I wanted to get the base 27 inch with 3 TB fusion drive and do an after market upgrade to 24 GBs of RAM.

Overall, 400 + 1800 = $2,200 + another 150 for the RAM which puts my desired system around $2,350.

Hell no!

Mac Mini + el cheapo display or just stay in the Windows fold. This was gonna be my first Mac, but Apple is making it too out of reach.

Geez, the MBA's and Tim are having a hell of a time. You know I would gladly spend the $2,350 as long as I know that both Tim and who ever came up with these insanely wrong prices get 2,350 lashes each!

Whip!
Tim: Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, *********! That hurts!

Me: 2,349 more to go Tim. ;)
 
Get with the times. IPS 27" monitors are very cheap nowadays. For example, AOC I2757FH costs just $270 at Best Buy. It probably uses the same IPS panel as the iMacs (they all use the same LG panel). It's probably not as good as iMac's display but then iMac's display is not the best either. It's probably good enough for most people (not everyone edits photos for money).

GTX 680 ($450) + i5 ($180) + SSD ($300) + HDD (free) = about $950.

Incorrect. The AOC I2757FH is a low dpi panel. The iMac has a 2560-by-1440 resolution. Dell's 27" Ultrasharp has the same resolution and is $800-1000.

Sure if you want to compare cheaper stuff to Apple, you can find a $270 monitor. But don't imagine that it's the same thing. And your price list list is missing a motherboard, wireless card, speakers, microphone, camera, case, power supply, mouse, keyboard, operating system ... OP is correct, an iMac replacement that uses similar components is fairly similar in price.

That said, with Apple you don't get a choice. With a windows box, you might pay a couple hundred less and get more performance, as well as upgradeability. I priced out a decent system a few days ago that was $1200. Add 800 for the similar monitor and ... well you're right up at $2k.

Frankly, though, Apple's BTO price for memory should be a crime.
 
Anyone else notice the screen resolution listed as 1920x1080 on that site?

For what model? If you refer to the 21.5" model, then that is the correct resolution and has been for 21.5" models since late 2009.
The 27" iMac has 2560 x 1440, which is also a 16:9 aspect ratio resolution like in the 21.5" iMac.
 
5400RPM Hard drive. That's really the disappointment. Most other specs and design are good/great. But to not be able to replace the 21.5" model 5400RPM bottleneck (because that's exactly what it is) with a SSD, is just a huge disappointment. Other than that, everything else really does look great on these new iMacs.
 
Yep, commodity crap, all offering thousands of options of the same exact thing, all trying to outdo each other for a cheaper price, and all running Windows.

But this isn't news, is it?

Not clear what you are talking about. PC users can get better CPUs, better RAM, better HD, better SSD, better monitors and definitely better graphics cards than what iMac has to offer (or any Mac to that matter).

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Incorrect. The AOC I2757FH is a low dpi panel. The iMac has a 2560-by-1440 resolution. Dell's 27" Ultrasharp has the same resolution and is $800-1000.

Sure if you want to compare cheaper stuff to Apple, you can find a $270 monitor. But don't imagine that it's the same thing. And your price list list is missing a motherboard, wireless card, speakers, microphone, camera, case, power supply, mouse, keyboard, operating system ... OP is correct, an iMac replacement that uses similar components is fairly similar in price.

That said, with Apple you don't get a choice. With a windows box, you might pay a couple hundred less and get more performance, as well as upgradeability. I priced out a decent system a few days ago that was $1200. Add 800 for the similar monitor and ... well you're right up at $2k.

Frankly, though, Apple's BTO price for memory should be a crime.

Dell U2713HM (LED backlit) is available on Amazon for $717 ($799 from Dell but - unlike Apple - they often have sales). In general though, I do not get the idea of AIO except for certain applications (primarily in the kitchen - but over there PC has to have a touch screen).
 
Not clear what you are talking about. PC users can get better CPUs, better RAM, better HD, better SSD, better monitors and definitely better graphics cards than what iMac has to offer (or any Mac to that matter).

They can, but not if you're looking for an all-in-one.
You can't ignore form factor here.

The iMac isn't for you.
 
5400RPM Hard drive. That's really the disappointment. Most other specs and design are good/great. But to not be able to replace the 21.5" model 5400RPM bottleneck (because that's exactly what it is) with a SSD, is just a huge disappointment. Other than that, everything else really does look great on these new iMacs.

Don't be silly, there's no bottleneck. Modern 5400 HDDs have almost no difference from 7200s in terms of speed. Trust me.
 
Just can't do it anymore

I don't want to jump on the "whiny" train, but here is my problem with the current state of affairs. I purchased a high end iMac 24" in 2008. In my four years of ownership, I've had to replace the GPU for ~600.00 and a hard drive for ~100.00. This makes my $2,500.00 pc a $3,200.00 pc. I suspect the heat is to blame for the early demise of system components. So, now we have a thinner model that will likely sell (appropriately configured) for possibly more than my four year investment of $3,200.00.

That is $800.00 per year. Someone on the boards earlier said to hit Apple in the wallet as that is where it hurts. Well, after being an Apple owner since the Apple II+, it is time to say sayonara until they can appreciate a more broad user market.

I'm sure they won't miss one user, as there are plenty drinking the kool-aid.
 
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