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Closingracer

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No, I mean Apple. Apple designed the display, Samsung just manufactured it. We don't give Foxconn credit for the iPhone, do we?
Designed but Samsung Display is the ones who made it as good as it is. The pixel 2 made by HTC uses a display sourced by Samsung which is miles ahead better then the LG sourced one for the 2 X.
 

DNichter

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Designed but Samsung Display is the ones who made it as good as it is. The pixel 2 made by HTC uses a display sourced by Samsung which is miles ahead better then the LG sourced one for the 2 X.

Not sure what your point is. Apple designed the display to their specs and made the software to combat the burn in.
 

sumsingwong

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No, I mean Apple. Apple designed the display, Samsung just manufactured it. We don't give Foxconn credit for the iPhone, do we?

More like Apple asked Samsung “Can you make it do this? We don’t care how it’s done just as long as it’s calibrated the way we want and fits in this frame”. Samsung went to the drawing board and figured out how to meet Apples expectations. Then Samsung presented the schematics and prototype. Finally, Apple gave them the green light for mass production. Apple does not have the R&D of Samsung when it comes to OLED displays. Foxconn just throws all the components together do the final product. Totally different. lol
 

Falhófnir

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Not sure what your point is. Apple designed the display to their specs and made the software to combat the burn in.
‘Apple designed’ is always a bit of an iffy claim as they have no manufacturing presence so need to piggyback off of other companies technology and are limited by their capabilities... sure they can specify what characteristics they want to an extent (within the manufacturers parameters) but not a huge amount more than that.
 

DNichter

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More like Apple asked Samsung “Can you make it do this? We don’t care how it’s done just as long as it’s calibrated the way we want and fits in this frame”. Samsung went to the drawing board and figured out how to meet Apples expectations. Then Samsung presented the schematics and prototype. Finally, Apple gave them the green light for mass production. Apple does not have the R&D of Samsung when it comes to OLED displays. Foxconn just throws all the components together do the final product. Totally different. lol

Maybe Samsung will learn a thing or two from Apple then. Next year your Samsung screen should be better.
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‘Apple designed’ is always a bit of an iffy claim as they have no manufacturing presence so need to piggyback off of other companies technology and are limited by their capabilities... sure they can specify what characteristics they want to an extent (within the manufacturers parameters) but not a huge amount more than that.

I guess we’ll never know for sure, but I’m happy with the screen in my iPhone.
 

thadoggfather

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Nice work Apple you’ve beat Samsung at their own game with their own screen! Lol

Apple is beat by their own game relying on just Samsung to source the OLED panels for X

Until more suppliers get thrown into the supply chain, Apple is at the mercy of samsung
 

Eggtastic

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Good to hear since I use my phone as my gps for trips. Now, I am not road tripping every weekend. More like a few trips to a mountain for snowboarding (3 hours away), and maybe getting to certain spots in Philadelphia.

To avoid any possible burn in, screen is less than 40% brightness and I turn the screen off when there is several miles to the next turn.

So far, enjoying this phone and hope that the screen lasts. I got over the color shift / and slightly warmer tone since I don't have my old 6+ on and next to it to compare side by side. Its been a great upgrade so far.
 

pika2000

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Apple is beat by their own game relying on just Samsung to source the OLED panels for X

Until more suppliers get thrown into the supply chain, Apple is at the mercy of samsung
Why is it that you guys can only see everything as a zero sum game?
This deal is a win-win for both Apple and Samsung. If one loses, the other loses as well. Nobody is at the mercy of the other. Samsung would not want to jeopardize the deal. Just like Apple, Samsung loves money as well.
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Nice work Apple you’ve beat Samsung at their own game with their own screen! Lol
This is nothing new in the industry. Cue Sony. Sony makes everybody's camera sensors, including iPhone's. Yet everybody, Samsung, Apple, etc, produce better pictures than Sony's own smartphones.
 
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Nah. Samsung gives the consumers options on how they want their displays to look.

I see very far and few between iPhone owners complaining about having to adjust their displays, mainly because over the years, the LCD displays have been finally tuned and calibrated that it's not even a thought for the majority.

Samsung won that game because Apple paid them a fat check for creating the display.

What Exactly did they win? You do understand that Samsung was the only manufacturer that could actually produce Apples OLED quantity needed for the iPhone X? Even with Samsungs OLED panels, Apple still calibrates and Tunes them accordingly.

Furthermore, it's already been rumored that LG will be partnering with Apple and the future for OLED manufacturing.
 
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Zigourney

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I know you would have to display a static image for a very long time before burn in occurs...

What about the possibility of burn in occurring from constantly displaying normal App icons on the home screen, as well as the more static App icons at the bottom of the screen for the four docked Apps.

I know manufactures employ software pixel shift which moves static pixels around so that they don't burn in, but how long before the pixel shift of a constantly displayed docked icon App turns into burn in?
 

aevan

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No, I mean Apple. Apple designed the display, Samsung just manufactured it. We don't give Foxconn credit for the iPhone, do we?

Exactly. Samsung also made some A9 chips if I remember and yet no one said these were “Samsung chips”. This is just too close to home for Samsung fans, I guess.
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What about the possibility of burn in occurring from constantly displaying normal App icons on the home screen, as well as the more static App icons at the bottom of the screen for the four docked Apps.

Apple moves the icons in the status bar (“ears”) by a few pixels from time to time, and possibly elsewhere, to avoid burn in. I read it (I think from Rene Ritchie) somewhere, but can’t seem to find it now, but I remember it because it was really interesting. You don’t see it because it’s just a few pixels, but they move from time to time. Possibly whenever there is a full-screen transition from app to app, or maybe even after set time intervals.
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Samsung won that game because Apple paid them a fat check for creating the display.

No, you got it wrong. Samsung didn’t create the display, Apple payed them to manufacture their own design in Samsung factories. Samsung invested heavily in factories and production and it payed off. But Apple created the display. Just as they created the A9 chip and Samsung produced it in their factories (some were made by TSMC) - and yet, no one thought “Samsung created the A9”

Samsung provided the factories and the materials. That’s literally it. Every pixel in that screen, every single organic light-emitting diode is there because some Apple engineer decided to put it there. That’s why the X screen is so different than the Galaxy screens, with higher sustained brightness, less burn in, better accuracy but lower peak brightness and worse color shifts. Totally different displays. I’d say Apple made a better one and beat Samsung engineers in their first attempt. We can only imagine what they will do on a second try. Great display and 100% kudos goes to Apple. Samsung was smart enough to invest a fortune in screen manufacturing and good for them.

The only way I can explain this confusion is that we’ve heard how Samsung creates the best displays for so long, people have a hard time grasping the fact someone beat them at their own game. And they were beaten by Apple in this round.
 
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barkomatic

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Ultimately, regardless of who manufactured a component it's the brand that gets placed on the final product that answers for its quality and performance. If you had a problem with your iPhone X screen, you're not sending it in to Samsung for repair.
 

sumsingwong

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I see very far and few between iPhone owners complaining about having to adjust their displays, mainly because over the years, the LCD displays have been finally tuned and calibrated that it's not even a thought for the majority.



What Exactly did they win? You do understand that Samsung was the only manufacturer that could actually produce Apples OLED quantity needed for the iPhone X? Even with Samsungs OLED panels, Apple still calibrates and Tunes them accordingly.

Furthermore, it's already been rumored that LG will be partnering with Apple and the future for OLED manufacturing.

iPhone owners were never given the option to adjust their displays which is why they aren’t complaining.

To be exact, Samsung won an big fat check without any competition, that’s what they won. So they can charge Apple any amount they wanted to. Did Apple calibrate the display themselves? Nope. They gave Samsung the specifics and Samsung did it. If Apple had the OLED R&D that Samsung has, they would’ve built one display in house and gave it to Samsung to duplicate for mass production which wasn’t the case. Apple did not physically calibrate and tune the X display. Samsung did. The LG rumor has been around for a long time. Either LG cannot meet Apples requirements or they don’t have the capacity to meet the yield Apple is requesting.
 

sumsingwong

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It’s obvious he’s a samsung fanboy and is finding every little thing to bash on Apple about. A bit jealous that the competition is smoking his brand. Lol

Nah. Not a fanboy. I like my X but I give credit where credit is due. Something Apple fanboys are incapable of doing.
 
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