But.....but....the 5c is a flop...

[Toltepeceno]

It's big in the USA.

It isn't what they were planning. Outside the USA, there are no subsidized phones. You pay cash.

An iPhone 5c is a total rip off. You can buy a brand new flagship with the latest hardware for the same money. The iPhone 5c is a 3 year old phone sold at a premium. It is nonsense.

The big idea was for the 5c to be huge in Asia. It isn't.

Yo must have ignored where I posted the link that it's the 5th biggest selling smartphone right now.

You must also have ignored where I posted that it's big here in latin america. Only about 15% here buy subsidized phones with contracts. Same money? The 5s is 200.00 us more than the 5c, the 5c is 200.00 us more than the 5c is in the us. That' 200.00 less than the 5s is EXACTLY why the 5c is popular here.

Not a lot of people here buy iphones but people do not subsidize phones here through the phone company, they do it through places like coppel, electra, many that sell them for payments (anywhere up to 36 months). With interest the 5c is about 4000 pesos, over 300.00 less than the 5s and still over 900.00. I have not seen one of these places that even carry the 5s because everyone goes for the 5c BECAUSE OF THE MONEY.

You don't know as much of the whole world as you think.

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So it is either #2 or #5? Does that mean it is growing or falling? Also, and this is really the part I am having a hard time with, why am I supposed to care? Whether there is a 5c or is not a 5c doesn't really affect me very much one way or the other. Even as I type this the will to give a <expletive> is draining away rapidly.

It was 2 and is 5 now due to newer phones. "Strong iPhone 5c sales gave Apple highest growth in mid-range iPhone market" (the article I linked to), means the android people are concentrating on the 2-4 android phones more, the 5c is maintaining and the 5c growing despite it's 5 position.

I don't care if you care, In fact why are you even in the thread? Nobody is forcing you to come here.

Ignored also.

 

[cynics]

It is very accurate.



An iPhone 5 will sustain a lot more abuse than a plastic 5c.



Actually if you drop the 5c you will see the screen starting to pop out of the case.

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Because the world isn't the USA. Outside the fanclub in the USA, nobody has a 5c. Apple was counting on this phone to be their international phone. It isn't. It is a flop.

Without sale numbers that's speculation however outside of the states is where I see the most iPhone 5C (hard to tell with a case but their color is generally easy to spot).

I was in Egypt a few months ago and not only do they offer an 8gb version (I don't think that's available in the states) they were completely sold out of all varieties of 5C at both telcos I visited looking for a local sim. I wasn't about to buy a 5S which was available.

I also noticed a lot in Japan however I noticed much more non iOS devices. Not sure on make/model but I could just tell by screen size they weren't iPhones.

 

[chupachup]

Without sale numbers that's speculation however outside of the states is where I see the most iPhone 5C (hard to tell with a case but their color is generally easy to spot).

I was in Egypt a few months ago and not only do they offer an 8gb version (I don't think that's available in the states) they were completely sold out of all varieties of 5C at both telcos I visited looking for a local sim. I wasn't about to buy a 5S which was available.

I also noticed a lot in Japan however I noticed much more non iOS devices. Not sure on make/model but I could just tell by screen size they weren't iPhones.

The 8GB are also here and they're dirt cheap.

But this is Macrumors so of course. I have to say the 5c is everywhere and it is a HUGE hit.

HURRAY!!

 

[Toltepeceno]

Some people do not live in reality (not referring to you).

People that buy iphones here buy the 5c due to price. 200.00 us more for a 5s or over 300 more financed is a lot of money.

Also, I don't see flagship androids. I see chinese branded phones like this blu:

http://www.celularactual.com/category/blu/

There are more brands and go in the 2000 peso range which is about 150.00

People that can afford iphone mostly go 5c, people that cannot but go smartphone mostly go chinese brands, there are a lot that use dumb phones (mostly chinese again).

Most people have cell phones here because with telcel you can receive calls free even if you don't have a balance. So it's worth it to have a phone even if you can't afford the air time.

Without sale numbers that's speculation however outside of the states is where I see the most iPhone 5C (hard to tell with a case but their color is generally easy to spot).

I was in Egypt a few months ago and not only do they offer an 8gb version (I don't think that's available in the states) they were completely sold out of all varieties of 5C at both telcos I visited looking for a local sim. I wasn't about to buy a 5S which was available.

I also noticed a lot in Japan however I noticed much more non iOS devices. Not sure on make/model but I could just tell by screen size they weren't iPhones.

 

[Nashpash14]

I see lots of people that got iPhone 5c at my school

 

[cynics]

The 8GB are also here and they're dirt cheap.



But this is Macrumors so of course. I have to say the 5c is everywhere and it is a HUGE hit.



HURRAY!!

Here as in the states? I know my local Verizon store doesn't have 8gb iPhone 5C's nor are they listed on Apples US webpage. So I figured they didn't offer them here (US).

 

[chupachup]

Here as in the states? I know my local Verizon store doesn't have 8gb iPhone 5C's nor are they listed on Apples US webpage. So I figured they didn't offer them here (US).

You guys really need to read. Honestly.

Whatever man. It doesn't matter.

The 5c is a total success. I hope they make a 6c. I'm getting one.

 

[cynics]

The 8GB are also here and they're dirt cheap.

Here as in the states? I know my local Verizon store doesn't have 8gb iPhone 5C's nor are they listed on Apples US webpage. So I figured they didn't offer them here (US).

You guys really need to read. Honestly.



Whatever man. It doesn't matter.



The 5c is a total success. I hope they make a 6c. I'm getting one.

Is this really your reading comprehension level or how you admit you were wrong? How embarrassing for you.

 

[rui no onna]

Here as in the states? I know my local Verizon store doesn't have 8gb iPhone 5C's nor are they listed on Apples US webpage. So I figured they didn't offer them here (US).

That's because Apple hasn't released the 8GB 5c in the US. With promotions at Verizon, etc. for the 32GB iPhone 5c for free on contract, though, I don't think an 8GB model is necessary. Given it's to be expected that the 5c will take the place of the 4s as the "free" iPhone comes August/September, we might see the 8GB model then.

@Toltepeceno
In the US (at least back when the 5s and 5c were first released), most folks pay $99 for the iPhone 5c 16GB and $199 for the iPhone 5s 16GB. The 2-year contract will be the same $1,500+ regardless of which device you get. Given total cost of ownership is $1,600+ for the 5c and $1,700+ for the 5s (just a 6.25% increase), you can see why there aren't a lot of takers for the 5c.

There's nothing inherently wrong with the 5c. The only issue with it was pricing during release. That's pretty much been resolved now with the release of an 8GB model as well as recent promotions.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

Tim Cook says a product his company develops is not a flop.
More at 11.

I literally LOL'd

 

[GoCubsGo]

Many people here call it a flop, they are obviously ignorant of the definition.

What makes you think you can tell me what to do? Contrary to what you think the world does not revolve around you.

You created a thread, called people here ignorant, provided a definition of a common word suggesting it was necessary to get your point across, and you somehow believe that you know what a total stranger (me) thinks? There is some irony in your little tantrum.

Since you failed miserably to read my post, I stated that the people who called the iPhone 5C a flop are people on this site as well as similar sites. Most, if not all, do not matter in the industry itself and therefore the statements were merely opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion even you. You're entitled to call people on this site ignorant, just as you have, because clearly that was your intent. And of course, you're smart because you use a dictionary. The opinions of people do not mean that the product was absolutely going to flop and that there was any real way to tell whether it would or would not.

But good job thread starter. I'd give you a high five if I could. Just know that.

 

[sviato]

Sure, I don't mind the questions.

First off, one of the biggest reasons I invest in a phone is looks. That may be shallow, but I don't sell my phones and I usually end up in a 2 year contract where I end up having the phone out of contract for a year or so.

So, looks are important because I will have this phone for anywhere from two to three years. I also tend to invest emotionally in devices that I will have for awhile. With that in mind there are a couple of factors I do not like about the iPhone 4/4s aesthetically. I prefer black. The iPhone 4/4s came in black. That's fine. But Apple chose to use a shiny aluminum band for the sides of the phone. To me, that just ruins the look. Next, with all that glass, if you turn the phone on it's side you can see that it looks pretty thick. Another point I don't care for.

The next couple of points are strictly situational because not every iPhone 4/4s owner uses a bumper or an Otterbox case. But, a lot of iPhone 4/4s owners put bumpers on their iPhones (I get it, Antennagate and all that). A lot of the ones I've seen have been this neon fugly look. That right there really killed any good looks of the phone for me. Some people chose Otterboxes for their phones. I get that too. You make a big investment, you want to protect it. But I don't see the point in casing a phone and killing the beauty of it entirely with a case. With Otterboxes it's the worst of all kinds of things because you can never tell what's actually inside one of those fugly things!

Add in the fact that as mentioned, the back had a bad habit of being shatter prone. Last, but certainly not least is the fact that the ONE time I purchase a brand new Apple product direct from Apple, Apple kicks my product to the curb in favor of - the iPhone 4s.

I went through the entire pre-order and launch day experience, get a FLAGSHIP iPhone 5, one of the best looking models and when it comes time for the 5s to come up what does Apple do? They decide that the 4s is such a winner that they will keep making it instead of moving the 5 down, like they did the 4 in favor of the 4s, and they discontinue the 5. The insult to injury was repackaging the 5 as the 5c and calling it "new"!

So, yay me! My one first time experience with a brand new Apple product and Apple says "Your iPhone isn't good enough to continue to keep making!" But the damn iPhone 4s, a model made in 2011 and older than the iPhone 5 sure is!

So…there it is. It's irrational and petty and probably immature, but it's my reasons.

But as I said earlier, it's only my personal opinions and preference. As an iPhone the 4 and 4s are good iPhones and I don't judge anyone that owns one less for having one. It's just not the iPhone for me.

Hmm...consider some hobbies, or a shrink

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
I think we're done here.