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I think the difference between Macbook and Macbook pro keyboard is the idfference between an ipad and the original macbook. Such a confident feeling when I tried out the macbook pro. The key travel can still be a little longer for my liking but I think it's because I type with a lot of force. Theoretically, if I typed with less force, I can type faster, but it's hard to get around that.

It's hard to describe just how confident the keys feel though. I never thought that the existing keyboards felt wobbly, but every tap I just know will register.
 
IMO, it is MUCH better, I got used to the MacBook keyboard, and typing on one and then the other... which I am doing right now... its a noticeable difference

Have you use the new Magic Keyboard? Is it similar to that? I remember they said that has the improved scissor mechanism, although I'm guessing it's not the same as new MBP.
 
Went to my local apple store yesterday to test the non touch bar '13 (to get a better idea of my preorder, a touch bar 13) and i must say the new keyboard was better than expected.

I did the same thing and came to the same conclusion. Better than expected. It'll take some getting used to but it seems just fine.
 
Razer has low profile mechanical keys that are a few millimeters taller....

I'm glad some people are willing to adjust. But there are alternatives out there folks
 
Not a fan of the rMacbook keyboard but got used to it. Your positive reaction to the updated one sounds promising.
 
on the other hand, i hate how unclicky the touchpad is now. it's definitely less clicky than previous macbooks
 
When I use it I have a hard time. I am used to mechanical keyboards with more travel.
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Corporations will adopt MacBooks and use them on Ethernet networks just fine.

MacBook is standard issue at companies like IBM, Google, Facebook, etc.
 
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Coming from a programmer who has been on the Macbook pro for (maybe?) 10 years and gotten used to that keyboard, I was DREADING the new butterfly keyboard. I tried the gen 1 out a few months ago and wasn't completely horrified but I could definitely see where touch typing would be more difficult with such low key travel.

I just tried the gen 2 keyboard in store yesterday, and it is a huge difference in terms of tactile feedback. Travel remains the same but the keys are clickier, offering that much-needed haptic feedback that allows for fast typing.

Here's the thing: I found that I was actually able to type FASTER on the new keyboard than on mine, and that's without any adjustment time. Frankly, I'm not worried at all about the keyboard. That escape key, on the other hand...


Yes pretty much everything you said exactly.

I tried it in an Apple Store yesterday as well. I got a lot of time to try the rMB keyboard beforehand waiting for the MBP to open up.

The rMB keyboard feels almost digital, with the keys either pressed or not pressed. The rMBPs is more analog feeling, like pressing down a very shallow key that gives a nice short, sharp tactile feedback when you thwack the keys.

Most people should have no problems once they get used it, in fact I'd say the different key cap size will be a bigger annoyance than they key travel for those not familiar with the new style keyboards.
 
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I also tested the new MBP today. Throughout the day I switch between an MBP and an old Microsoft Natural keyboard, so I'm used to the feeling of both.

Granted I've only had a few minutes/seconds with the MB in-store, but it just feels like there's wet cardboard beneath the keys, instead of a springy mechanism. I can't think of any other way to describe it. The new MBP definitely felt better. I think I could get acclimated a bit more quickly. But if I had choice, I'd probably be a stick in the mud and keep the pre-2016 MBP keyboard.
 
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