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ViViDboarder said:
Yes, because text chats are the same thing... In the middle of the game I love hitting my PS button and navigating to my friends, scanning for the one who sent the message hitting the read button then hitting reply and typing something out with the d pad... I'm sure the rest of my opponents in MAG would understand...

Also, how do you do crossgame invites on PS3? I haven't been able to figure that out, just got one a couple months ago.
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You realise if you're in the chat room, you can press the PS button which goes straight back to the game, then if you press the PS button in game it goes straight back into the chat room? Very helpful, especially when friends don't have mics.

And to invite someone, just go to your friends list, press Triangle, and click invite to game. Or the game you are playing might have an invite system, like in Bad Company 2 you go to Squads>Invite to Squad.
 
Sambo110 said:
You realise if you in the chat room, you can press the PS button which goes straight back to the game, then if you press the PS button in game it goes straight back into the chat room? Very helpful, especially when friends don't have mics.

And to invite someone, just go to your friends list, press Triangle, and click invite to game. Or the game you are playing might have an invite system, like in Bad Company 2 you go to Squads>Invite to Squad.
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Cool, thanks. Didn't know that about text chat either. I guess it'd be more useful with a keyboard though.
 
ViViDboarder said:
Cool, thanks. Didn't know that about text chat either. I guess it'd be more useful with a keyboard though.
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It depends. Usually I don't say much with it, but if I need to type something I just unplug my iMac's keyboard, which is next to me, plug it into the PS3 and type away.
 
ViViDboarder said:
Cool, thanks. Didn't know that about text chat either. I guess it'd be more useful with a keyboard though.
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Hey dude! I'm new to the whole PS3 thing too. I got fed up with booting into Windows all the time to play games. I just wanna use my computer like a computer and I want it to stay in OS X. Now that I have a dedicated console, I don't have to muck around with my computer or worry about graphics cards and stuff.

Plus, PS3 games are only going to keep getting better as the developers learn how to harness the full power more. Just look at Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2... the game runs flawlessly.
 
TheSpaz said:
Hey dude! I'm new to the whole PS3 thing too. I got fed up with booting into Windows all the time to play games. I just wanna use my computer like a computer and I want it to stay in OS X. Now that I have a dedicated console, I don't have to muck around with my computer or worry about graphics cards and stuff.

Plus, PS3 games are only going to keep getting better as the developers learn how to harness the full power more. Just look at Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2... the game runs flawlessly.
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UC2 had screen tearing, you had to look for it (like in heavy rain) but there was tearing. ;)
 
e²Studios said:
UC2 had screen tearing, you had to look for it (like in heavy rain) but there was tearing. ;)
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I didnt notice it in Uncharted 2, but i saw a ton of it in Heavy Rain. Particularly when Ethan was in the hotel room and there were a bunch of straight horizontal lines which showed the tearing real bad. Which is funny because i didnt notice any tearing in the fast moving scenes like The Bear, but i saw a ton on the relatively calm scenes.
MacRumorUser said:
For pc v console engines please go and read the digital foundry article regarding Metro 2033 and the 4aEngine.

A developer can push a console to the limit. They can extract near 100% of gpu usage. That rarely happens on pc.

It's a great read and judging by the in game footage of the game it's certainly looking a damn site more interesting and graphically impressive than Crysis.

Also why is crysis the benchmark? It's engine Is badly optimised nd outside of cut scenes the game looks nothing special IMHO. I'm running on very high at 1920x1200 settings and totally underwhelmed by this game that everyone keeps touting as a pinicle.

I was more impresed by the original FarCry than Crysis in regards to graphics and more over gameplay.

To me it seems Crysis & Crysis warhead are so Badly optimised that the only reason they are used for benchmarks is that you need a **** load of power to get it looking anyway decent at all. Taking crysis in it's current state and running it on hardware similar to that of ps3 or 360 gpu's and you would have a choppy low peformance mess. That is not proof of great benchmark title, it's just emphasis's how poor the engine truly is.

Metro 2033 is looking spectacular on 360 and runs with all the bells & whistles of a modern game engine (post processing etc) and even manages to throw in it's own 4x AA technique and if ran without frame lock would jeep between 40-50 fps.

http://m.youtube.com/?dc=organic&source=mog&hl=en#/watch?v=ib09Cw9-k04&client=mv-google

http://m.youtube.com/?dc=organic&source=mog&hl=en#/watch?v=bT2BbruE9Ws&client=mv-google
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This is a great post.
The CryEngine is so terrible that Ubi didnt want to touch it for Far Cry 2. Its pretty bad when Crytek's IP doesnt run on they Crytek engine, lol.

CryEngine 3 looks amazing, but they need to work on optimizing it enough that other people will want to use it. Unreal needs competition.
 
TheSpaz said:
Hey dude! I'm new to the whole PS3 thing too. I got fed up with booting into Windows all the time to play games. I just wanna use my computer like a computer and I want it to stay in OS X. Now that I have a dedicated console, I don't have to muck around with my computer or worry about graphics cards and stuff.

Plus, PS3 games are only going to keep getting better as the developers learn how to harness the full power more. Just look at Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2... the game runs flawlessly.
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Well the one thing that sucks is that developers do "know" how to harness the power already. It's just whether or not it's viable for them to spend the extra dev time to do it and create a perfect product or just release a version that's just good much faster. The console has been around plenty long enough and the Cell is very well documented.

I personally would rather wait for someone to build an AWESOME engine that runs great on the PS3 and then see games release on that. I hear the UE3 (Unreal Engine 3) is fully optimized for the Cell, but that's a couple years old now and didn't quite catch on like UE2 did. Hopefully the next iteration can breath a new life into well developed PS3 games!

And I only bring up engines here because, like I said, it's too tough for devs to re program an entire game ground up for each console.

As far as UC2 goes, everyone is raving about it! I watched my brother play and I had no interest... Oh well. Maybe I'll rent it. Right now I'm addicted to MAG.
 
TheSpaz said:
UC2 has no tearing. The developers of Killzone 2 helped Naughty Dog get the game to not tear.
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UC2 did have tearing (albeit it VERY little, and VERY hard to notice), google it and you will find videos demonstrating the tearing. I guess you have to give up that game too since you refuse to play anything with tearing ;):p

Rather than nitpick games to death just play them for enjoyment and have some fun. Some people are too critical for their own good.
 
if you can afford it, both. But i like the media aspects of the PS3. I have both and enjoy both. Less punks on PS3, but the idiots are moving over to the PSN as well
 
e²Studios said:
UC2 did have tearing (albeit it VERY little, and VERY hard to notice), google it and you will find videos demonstrating the tearing. I guess you have to give up that game too since you refuse to play anything with tearing ;):p

Rather than nitpick games to death just play them for enjoyment and have some fun. Some people are too critical for their own good.
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People who have tearing in UC2 have bad TVs because my copy of the game does not tear at all. I would have noticed it. Also, there's very little tearing in Mirror's Edge but I noticed that too. Also Kane and Lynch tears too but a very little bit at the top of the screen. I can spot tearing from a mile away because I'm super sensitive to it. Uncharted 2 runs flawlessly for me on my system. I heard that Samsung displays exhibit less tearing for some reason. That's what I have.
 
TheSpaz said:
People who have tearing in UC2 have bad TVs because my copy of the game does not tear at all. I would have noticed it.
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:rolleyes:
Really, your argument is that anyone who saw it is mistaken or has a faulty TV?


Didn't realize that the world expert of tearing is on Macrumors
 
zap2 said:
:rolleyes:
Really, your argument is that anyone who saw it is mistaken or has a faulty TV?


Didn't realize that the world expert of tearing is on Macrumors
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+1, some people don't want to see it maybe is more like it ;)

As far as TV's go I have Sony's flagship Bravia 60" NX800 LCD (KDL-60NX800), I see tearing in UC2, and I can say with probable certainty that my TV is leaps and bounds better than the ops. It's there, they just choose to see it in games they feel like complaining about. It's not about the defects, its about stroking egos.

Again, people are too critical, sometimes for their own good. Its a game, its meant to be entertaining. There is nothing saying its technological perfection, but to dismiss a great game because it has a few flaws is absolutely ridiculous.
 
I didn't realise any screen tearing at all, and I have played through twice, played a few of the levels a third time and played a ton of multiplayer, never teared for me once, and I notice these things. This is on my 23" LG monitor.
 
e²Studios said:
+1, some people don't want to see it maybe is more like it ;)

As far as TV's go I have Sony's flagship Bravia 60" NX800 LCD (KDL-60NX800), I see tearing in UC2, and I can say with probable certainty that my TV is leaps and bounds better than the ops. It's there, they just choose to see it in games they feel like complaining about. It's not about the defects, its about stroking egos.

Again, people are too critical, sometimes for their own good. Its a game, its meant to be entertaining. There is nothing saying its technological perfection, but to dismiss a great game because it has a few flaws is absolutely ridiculous.
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Some Sony TVs are notorious for tearing on games that shouldn't have tearing at all. I have a very nice Samsung and I haven't seen tearing in Uncharted 2 (which makes sense because they built vsync into the game) so it must be your TV. I can spot tearing from a mile away. Also, I've read multiple articles about the game and how the developers worked with the killzone devs to implement vsync to eliminate tearing.

I still think your TV has a problem.
 
TheSpaz said:
Some Sony TVs are notorious for tearing on games that shouldn't have tearing at all. I have a very nice Samsung and I haven't seen tearing in Uncharted 2 (which makes sense because they built vsync into the game) so it must be your TV. I can spot tearing from a mile away. Also, I've read multiple articles about the game and how the developers worked with the killzone devs to implement vsync to eliminate tearing.

I still think your TV has a problem.
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Whatever makes you sleep better at night ;)
 
e²Studios said:
Whatever makes you sleep better at night ;)
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I'm telling you. Your TV is defective or you have a stupid TV. Uncharted 2 literally does NOT tear EVER. Look at this:

"Digital Foundry did an analysis of the tech used in Uncharted 2. Some of the most notable improvements are the use of v-sync triple buffering (a rarity in console games due to the to extra memory required) to eliminate all traces of screen tearing. DF also simulates what it would look like if the original Uncharted used this technique and the result is impressive. Uncharted: Drakes Fortune tore frames like it was going out of business and it's clearly evidenced in this side by side comparison - the result is impressive and an indication of how far the tech has improved. Another impressive feat of the Uncharted engine is that it maintains a rock solid 30 FPS no matter what's thrown at it. When looking at the FPS monitor in the video's it maintains 30 FPS regardless of what's happening. I don't even think I saw it dip below 30."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article

They have tools to analyze this stuff. I'm guessing those tools are wrong too right?
 
Just finished Uncharted 2. Visually the best game I have ever played on any platform. Wowed me at every stage. Loved it.
 
Just wait until you get GoW3. It makes Uncharted 2 look like crap, and im not exaggerating one bit. There are moments in GoW3 where you will wonder how its even possible to make something so absolutely gorgeous.
 
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