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Buy now or wait for Apple Watch 3?


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Personally I think we could see the Apple Watch 3 at a September event! From rumours its going to focus on battery like and performance. I hope we do see a new Apple Watch otherwise I've held off on updating to the Cermaic Edition for no reason

Black Ceramic and I would consider the Ceramic Edition. The white Ceramic does not appeal to me as much with the color. Now, if Apple offered a Stainless Space Gray, day one purchase for me.
 
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Lioness~

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I'm in same situation, but I've decided to wait for Watch3 90% of the time:rolleyes:

I check used market for 2's at time to see if there's anything.
But as I want a 38mm it's not that much offered.

I think it will come to the fall:cool: Definitely hope it does:D
 

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Watch OS 5 in June at WWDC?? Isn't Watch OS 4 about to hit in Sept? If so, wouldn't that be the logical time to roll out hardware (after the beta test of OS4 has been completed with Apple Watch 2 users)?

I think its completely logical IF we don't see a Gen 3 Watch this September, that would leave the Apple Watch to be more than likely to be updated near WWDC. Which if WatchOS 5 is major update, it would make sense to debut it around this time frame to introduce the two together.

For example, Similarly, how the new iPad Pro's launched during WWDC this year with iOS 11, which is almost tuned for the new iPads in terms of what iOS 11 offers significant advantages to the iOS device. Apple demoed both iOS and the new iPads to show how they were really incorporated.
 
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Well my S2 arrived today.

Very happy with the upgrade, it's a lot brighter is the first thing I noticed.

Good to hear.

It's actually twice the brightness (1,000 Nits) over first generation watch/Series 1 (450 Nits).
 

AidenL

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Now I'm having second thoughts looking at the poll.

Maybe I should return my watch and hold out for the S3. I would be annoyed if the 3 appeared in September.....
 

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Now I'm having second thoughts looking at the poll.

Maybe I should return my watch and hold out for the S3. I would be annoyed if the 3 appeared in September.....

Ask yourself this, what do you think the Series 3 could possibly offer that the Series 2 doesn't already have or expand upon? Maybe LTE, upgraded processor, increased water resistance, extended/more efficient battery, etc. Whatever Series 3 offers, I don't believe it will be that drastically different over the Series 2.

Also, as long as you're happy with the Watch, that's really all that matters. I wouldn't read too deep and everything on the Apple Watch forum.
 
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satchmo

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Here's a question to the forum...do we think the existing Series 1 and 2 will remain in Apple's product line?

My guess is if there is just a subtle upgrade (i.e. same design, longer battery life, perhaps faster/thinner), then the existing line would be killed off.

But if it's a radical new design (round face?, cellular capabilities, new sensors in bands), the existing line could be kept as a low-priced entry point.
 

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Here's a question to the forum...do we think the existing Series 1 and 2 will remain in Apple's product line?

My guess is if there is just a subtle upgrade (i.e. same design, longer battery life, perhaps faster/thinner), then the existing line would be killed off.

But if it's a radical new design (round face?, cellular capabilities, new sensors in bands), the existing line could be kept as a low-priced entry point.

I highly doubt this next Watch will have a radical redesign. I don't forsee this happening until Gen 4 Watch launches. And a round Watch face also seems unlikely by Series 3.

If this Series 3 is rumored to be true in September, I do agree It will be incremental improvements. I do see Apple retaining the Series 1/2 in the line up. Perhaps Series 3 might be only offered in one configuration.

For example, Series 1 is entry level, Series 2 is offered in stainless/aluminum and Series 3 might have exclusive features (LTE) not offered in the lower models and includes the features that the other models have.

I very well could be wrong, but I don't believe Apple will discontinue the Series 1/2 after one year. But then again, I still doubt an Apple Watch release this Fall in spite of the most recent rumor indicating a September release.
 

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Well I just boxed up my S2 for return.

Hanging onto the Link bracelet, I bought it on eBay . And I'll buy the S3 if / when its released.
 

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It would be to replace a pebble watch which technically still works.

If the new watch is coming out in September, I will wait but what if it doesn't. Should I wait till October, then December, then March of 2018 then September of 2018?

So, buy now or wait: what would you do?

Please respond to my poll above:

Thanks,
Mike
But it now. You can find some pretty sweet deals if you shop around.
 

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Well I just boxed up my S2 for return.

Hanging onto the Link bracelet, I bought it on eBay . And I'll buy the S3 if / when its released.

Will you repurchase the S2 if there is no Series 3 this Fall? Or do you plan on waiting in general.
 

tazinlwfl

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Very tempted to break into this myself. I wanted to get two, one for me and my wife.
Target is selling them for $70 off (38mm S2 going for <$300)

My thought process:
  • If the S2 drops in price (Sept/Oct) to make room for the new model, then by how much?
  • If I can save $70 now on the S2, how does that compare to a $100 price drop in a couple(?) months?
  • Is saving $30 worth the wait if I end up buying the same model?
  • I want to wait for the S3, especially if they add a new sensor. Glucose, Oxidation, etc. Anything interesting...
  • Not as important to me, but would be nice: faster processor, battery
  • somewhat important, but not a line in the sand: LTE (because, going for a run without your phone is dangerous, so having calls/SOS that works without a phone is a major upgrade)
 

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Very tempted to break into this myself. I wanted to get two, one for me and my wife.
Target is selling them for $70 off (38mm S2 going for <$300)

My thought process:
  • If the S2 drops in price (Sept/Oct) to make room for the new model, then by how much?
  • If I can save $70 now on the S2, how does that compare to a $100 price drop in a couple(?) months?
  • Is saving $30 worth the wait if I end up buying the same model?
  • I want to wait for the S3, especially if they add a new sensor. Glucose, Oxidation, etc. Anything interesting...
  • Not as important to me, but would be nice: faster processor, battery
  • somewhat important, but not a line in the sand: LTE (because, going for a run without your phone is dangerous, so having calls/SOS that works without a phone is a major upgrade)

You raise some valid points.
If Apple officially lowers the price to $299, you may save more at a BB or Target sale.
If not, you probably won't save much more than $30 but having to wait 6-8 weeks in the process. Not worth it IMO.

I suppose it's how badly you want/need some of those S3 features (assuming they come to fruition).
Otherwise, the S2 seems like a pretty good buy now.
 

Bellagem

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You wouldn't recommend it to anyone, yet you own one. And It's NOT a matter of opinion. Because you clearly stated "The series 0, 1, 2, can't do much." That's false. Because it can and it has loads of capabilities. Just Because you don't utilize all the capabilities doesn't mean that "It can't do much." That's a sweeping generalization.

Furthermore, you stated it's next to "Useless. "Apple did not design the Apple Watch to be useless. It's far from being useless, if that's Your opinion, then why do you even own one?

And No, Pebble can't even touch the Apple Watch with terms of build quality, capabilities and overall support, which Pebble is no longer even supported with their software.
Calm down. He was stating his opinion and I agree with it. Isn't it better that he does own the watch and thus is speaking from experience? It's a watch with limited abilities and I wouldn't recommend it in its current state either. Relax. Not everyone will agree with you.
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You wouldn't recommend it to anyone, yet you own one. And It's NOT a matter of opinion. Because you clearly stated "The series 0, 1, 2, can't do much." That's false. Because it can and it has loads of capabilities. Just Because you don't utilize all the capabilities doesn't mean that "It can't do much." That's a sweeping generalization.

Furthermore, you stated it's next to "Useless. "Apple did not design the Apple Watch to be useless. It's far from being useless, if that's Your opinion, then why do you even own one?

And No, Pebble can't even touch the Apple Watch with terms of build quality, capabilities and overall support, which Pebble is no longer even supported with their software.
Calm down. He was stating his opinion and I agree with it. Isn't it better that he does own the watch and thus is speaking from experience? It's a watch with limited abilities and I wouldn't recommend it in its current state either. Relax. Not everyone will agree with you.
 
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Calm down. He was stating his opinion and I agree with it. Isn't it better that he does own the watch and thus is speaking from experience? It's a watch with limited abilities and I wouldn't recommend it in its current state either. Relax. Not everyone will agree with you.

You're using more hyperbole than necessary here. Nor am I being dismissive of that posters opinion, but there is a definitive difference between making a claim and an opinion. But I would highly recommend you revisit Post #4, which the OP stated "They're very limited in terms of power and capabilities and are frankly next to useless."

That alone is a claim and is completely untrue. So by my response stating that post was false and outright ridiculous, is completely accurate and justified. But feel free to disagree with me, even you misconstrued to differentiate between what an opinion and claim is.
 
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I do see Apple retaining the Series 1/2 in the line up. [...]
For example, Series 1 is entry level, Series 2 is offered in stainless/aluminum and Series 3 might have exclusive features (LTE) not offered in the lower models and includes the features that the other models have.
I don't see the use case for keeping Series 1 in the lineup (with one exception - see further below). They would need to significantly lower the price to make it a real entry model and thus would risk to put price pressure on the higher-tier models as well. Besides - Apple does not like to change price points once they're set.

The improvements of Series 2 over Series 1 (and 0) are quite significant and would make Series 2 a better contender for staying as an entry model imho.

I very well could be wrong, but I don't believe Apple will discontinue the Series 1/2 after one year.
While expect to see Series 1 leave the lineup in some countries, technically Apple will probably keep it as entry for other countries, which get Series 3 later or are more price-sensitive. Similar to the iPhone 5 having been sold in some countries until very recently iirc.

But then again, I still doubt an Apple Watch release this Fall in spite of the most recent rumor indicating a September release.
The least I'd expect is some enhancements in form of sensor bands. But I could also see a dedicated Series 3, as progress in the small wearable form factor is still fast, so a YoY update is not that improbable.

  • somewhat important, but not a line in the sand: LTE (because, going for a run without your phone is dangerous, so having calls/SOS that works without a phone is a major upgrade)
While I can understand the urge to have some communication device around, I would not call it "dangerous" to be without. Where are you doing your runs? :eek:

It's a watch with limited abilities
Despite the name I don't agree with your evaluation of it being a "watch" only, much less one "with limited abilities" (whatever the exact definition would be). Even a Pebble, which is pretty limited in comparison to the :apple:Watch, is far more able than any standard watch out there.

Of course you can always find specialists that might be better for very specific use cases, but in general I'd consider the :apple:Watch a heavily miniaturized computer that happens to sit on your wrist and can do a lot more things than a mere watch. Oh, by chance it also displays time (and very accurately so :cool:).
 
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While I can understand the urge to have some communication device around, I would not call it "dangerous" to be without. Where are you doing your runs? :eek:
Not so much where I am running, but if someone needs to get a hold of me and I'm unreachable in case of emergency for an hour, it could be really serious. Especially when you have ill dependents / family. My phone doesn't typically leave my side most of the day for that reason. And SOS works the other way around, a family member that triggers SOS would send me a notification. Having the watch could be better than a Life Alert, and I would want that to work anywhere and anytime, not just on WiFi.

Other perks of LTE are a little more mainstream - like having streaming music, SMS notification, etc, without the phone. If you could make facetime (audio) calls using just the watch and airpods without wifi, It'd be a dream. I could almost go the whole day without my phone... and that is kinda the goal, IMO: to put the phone away and maintain a connection to the people/services you use every day.
 

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Not so much where I am running, but if someone needs to get a hold of me and I'm unreachable in case of emergency for an hour, it could be really serious. Especially when you have ill dependents / family. My phone doesn't typically leave my side most of the day for that reason. And SOS works the other way around, a family member that triggers SOS would send me a notification. Having the watch could be better than a Life Alert, and I would want that to work anywhere and anytime, not just on WiFi.
I agree with this - very handy to have in the event of a medical emergency, for any of us actually.

Im over 50 now, and chances of needing it increase by the day.
 

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I own two (series 0 and series 2). I bought the first one because of the advertised functionalities, but I was disappointed because the lack of processing power made essentially impossible to use anything different than time reading and calories counting. It's not like I don't use the other stuff because I don't want to, it's because I can't without waiting endless seconds for doing the simplest thing.

I thought series 2 would be better, but sadly the improvement was only marginal. I wouldn't recommend this product to anyone, and your argument is very poor to say the least (that I can't say that because I own one myself -?!?- and that it can't be as I say because Apple say differently. Please… ).
Great. Then put your apple watches up for sale and move on, versus spreading outright lies about the watch. It's a reason why Apple has sold more watches next to any other brand, besides Rolex.
 

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I agree with this - very handy to have in the event of a medical emergency, for any of us actually.

Im over 50 now, and chances of needing it increase by the day.

I suppose heart attacks do occur more often as you age, but how the heck did we live before the cell/smart/iPhone era? :)

Surely middle aged people ran without safety devices just fine. We've become so dependant on these gadgets, sometimes we forget to use common sense. Run in populated areas, design looped there and back route, run with a partner.

But perhaps an Apple watch with LTE is the holy grail for runners/hikers. True emergency security without having to carry an iPhone. I just can't imagine it would have great battery life.
 
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Definitely wait for AW6 it will be a Mac Pro with sat phone on your wrist. Of course someone will call it useless :)
 

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I agree with this - very handy to have in the event of a medical emergency, for any of us actually.

Im over 50 now, and chances of needing it increase by the day.

I hope I never have to utilize the SOS feature, but I think it's brilliant that Apple thought of this accessibility option in case of an emergency.
 
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