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hey its not like its a rocket science to put a new logic borad. DELL, HP, Lenovo etc already using Skylake. Hold on, apple still testing? oh right...ok then

See that cow over there? Make it a horse. You have until tomorrow.

BJ
 
Hi Guys,

Im very interested in the new macbook and ive spent quite a few hours in PC world playing around with one and really like it. My dilemma is this notebook seems to be nearly through its product cycle. Im looking at getting at getting the 1.1Ghz version, how are you guys finding the power of this laptop? Should i get one now or wait until around April when they will probably release a 2nd generation macbook?

Revision two is almost upon us and it has 2 USB-C ports so it's a no brainer to wait, IMHO.
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Congrats, while you may have wanted to wait, your PC had other ideas.

Personally, I'm not all that sold its coming out in March. I know a lot folks are thinking the March event will include new laptops, but I think that won't occur until June - just my $.02

It's June at WWDC. March is already crowded.
 
Just sold mine recently and switched to the Razer Blade Stealth. If you need one now, go for it.

However, if Apple puts a Thunderbolt 3 with an i7 skylake CPU, I'll be in first in line to buy it. Hopefully the Razer Core will be compatible with it when it comes out :)
 
It's June at WWDC. March is already crowded.

Love it. You scream "it's coming in March!" for months and now that March is upon us you shout "it's coming in June!"

Might as well jump ahead and shout "it's coming in November!" right now so you can fool people into thinking you were right, you know, as the months go by people might forget. I won't. I have a list. Come April 1 you March people are all getting called out. I'm expecting apologies.

BJ
 
Just sold mine recently and switched to the Razer Blade Stealth. If you need one now, go for it.

However, if Apple puts a Thunderbolt 3 with an i7 skylake CPU, I'll be in first in line to buy it. Hopefully the Razer Core will be compatible with it when it comes out :)


That's not the point of the macbook. You bought the wrong laptop. You should have purchased a 13 macbook pro to begin with or like you did the razor blade.

The macbook retina is the next step above an ipad but not a full laptop. If you are complaining about lack of ports, you bought the wrong laptop that's not the purpose of the device. It is a tablet replacement, not a laptop replacement.
 
That's not the point of the macbook. You bought the wrong laptop. You should have purchased a 13 macbook pro to begin with or like you did the razor blade.

The macbook retina is the next step above an ipad but not a full laptop. If you are complaining about lack of ports, you bought the wrong laptop that's not the purpose of the device. It is a tablet replacement, not a laptop replacement.

It was the right LAPTOP for what I needed at the time. I needed a LAPTOP that was light and could run a desktop OS, and the 12-inch Macbook was the right choice at the time for the work and travel that I do. Who are you to tell me what is the right or wrong laptop for me?

The Macbook is no way a tablet replacement, as it has nothing to do with a tablet with being a tablet.
 
Personally I'm torn it will have been 12 months (in March) since Apple announced the 12" MacBook so it would make sense to announce the 2nd gen version in March. But with all the rumours of a new iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch bands the event may be crowded.

Saying that I'm torn between getting the 2nd gen MacBook (when it comes out) or getting a MacBook Pro or Air when the come out (if they add retina screen).
 
Love it. You scream "it's coming in March!" for months and now that March is upon us you shout "it's coming in June!"

Might as well jump ahead and shout "it's coming in November!" right now so you can fool people into thinking you were right, you know, as the months go by people might forget. I won't. I have a list. Come April 1 you March people are all getting called out. I'm expecting apologies.

March was the original plan but now it's WWDC due to the March focus. Such product launch postponements happen all the time due to changing constraints from Marketing. Any executive knows that.
 
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March was the original plan but now it's WWDC due to the March focus. Such product launch postponements happen all the time due to changing constraints from Marketing. Any executive knows that.

yeah right, march event is soo crowded, especially apple will show as new watch band :D haha funny.

oh yeah iPAD AIR? same as ipad air 2 with a few improvements, right, very crowded, oh right and iphone 5SE, upgraded iphone 5S, thats it! sure we are full now! :D
 
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yeah right, march event is soo crowded, especially apple will show as new watch band :D haha funny.

oh yeah iPAD AIR? same as ipad air 2 with a few improvements, right, very crowded, oh right and iphone 5SE, upgraded iphone 5S, thats it! sure we are full now! :D

Take a Marketing 101 class to understand how product marketing works and why you don't want to overload the message. You'll find it very educational.
 
Take a Marketing 101 class to understand how product marketing works and why you don't want to overload the message. You'll find it very educational.

oh man dont start please, i guess they will have absolutely NO time to say something like: We have updated our macs with Skylake processors. No time at all, all speech will go on watch bands, right :D

Now maybe you should take a common sense class, that will be very educational for you too :)
 
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There are a couple of q's I would like to ask. Firstly, does the MacBook require a physical change to the motherboard in order to incorporate a skylake CPU. If so, then it may not be updated too soon.
 
There are a couple of q's I would like to ask. Firstly, does the MacBook require a physical change to the motherboard in order to incorporate a skylake CPU. If so, then it may not be updated too soon.
Since you ask the question in that way, most certainly you know the answer. If you really know that it would take so much time to physically change the motherbord if the new SkyLake processor required it, then you must be an expert in the field and would not ask the forums.
SkyLake Core M processor for the MacBook was anounced nearly 4 or 5 months ago, that's plenty of time for the industry and most certainly Apple Engineers have figured out by now how to update the processor. Either it can be done or it cannot be done. It's true that under certain circumstances MacBook would not see a SkyLake update but it wouldn't be a marketing decision, rather an engineering difficulty.
Take a Marketing 101 class to understand how product marketing works and why you don't want to overload the message. You'll find it very educational.
They don't need to announce the update at the event. Maybe a silent update? Overloaded message? Now I know that new watch wristbands and the introducing of a pink-coloured iPhone overload the message. If you said they wouldn't like to mix the announcement of iOS products with OSX then you would have a point.
However, last year the MacBook was introduced in March TOGETHER with the new watch. Talk again an overloaded message and Marketing 101
 
Since you ask the question in that way, most certainly you know the answer. If you really know that it would take so much time to physically change the motherbord if the new SkyLake processor required it, then you must be an expert in the field and would not ask the forums.
SkyLake Core M processor for the MacBook was anounced nearly 4 or 5 months ago, that's plenty of time for the industry and most certainly Apple Engineers have figured out by now how to update the processor. Either it can be done or it cannot be done. It's true that under certain circumstances MacBook would not see a SkyLake update but it wouldn't be a marketing decision, rather an engineering difficulty.

They don't need to announce the update at the event. Maybe a silent update? Overloaded message? Now I know that new watch wristbands and the introducing of a pink-coloured iPhone overload the message. If you said they wouldn't like to mix the announcement of iOS products with OSX then you would have a point.
However, last year the MacBook was introduced in March TOGETHER with the new watch. Talk again an overloaded message and Marketing 101

Your answer is good. I'm in the first year of a diploma in computer studies. I'm aware that sockets change to accommodate new processors e.g. Lga1150, 1155 on atx motherboards etc.

But my knowledge of modern "nano" computing and boards is limited. I'm not even sure if Skylake is on the tick or the tock of intels production cycle, I assume it's the tick as 'lake' is used for the first time.

Just on that note, everyone is always waiting for the next processor, the next thing, I remember that with haswell. Granted if the upgrade is imminent, maybe wait, but otherwise go for it. The MB may get a Skylake processor, will that mean noticeable gains in performance? 10 - 15% max.
 
Maybe not on the CPU side but GPU-wise we are talking about an increase in performance of over 30%.

I suppose that will supercharge the UI alright. Still it's plenty useable at the moment. I just bought a MacBook, I couldn't wait, so I maybe justifying it a little
 
Just FYI guys, there is literally no confirmation or solid rumor that a new MB will be released at the march event. there is also no confirmation / solid bet that any new laptop will be announced then.
 
This is getting to be exciting. So a new MacBook 12 may not even be announced in March. Anyway I am glad I bought mine last May and have enjoyed using it for over nine months. I would probably not buy until rev 3 or rev 4. However I may get mac book pro 15 this year if a new and revised design comes out.
 
I suppose that will supercharge the UI alright. Still it's plenty useable at the moment. I just bought a MacBook, I couldn't wait, so I maybe justifying it a little
Just FYI guys, there is literally no confirmation or solid rumor that a new MB will be released at the march event. there is also no confirmation / solid bet that any new laptop will be announced then.

It wouldn't be a new laptop if Apple only updated the rMB to Skylake - hardly worth an announcement at a press event. But if they're planning changes across the laptop line, I could see that happening in June if they're not ready in March or the March event is already too crowded.
 
March was the original plan but now it's WWDC due to the March focus. Such product launch postponements happen all the time due to changing constraints from Marketing. Any executive knows that.

So sorry I was traveling yesterday, you know, as an executive, and unable to respond to this, other posters replied perfectly, nothing more I need add.

"March focus". LOL. What happened to "Apple makes these changes to processors without fanfare" and "it's so easy to change to Skylake, it's like replacing a lightbulb" and "I guarantee Skylake will appear in the RMB in March"?

Spend time in the Refurbished Mac Mini forum. We don't need to see you guarantee a Skylake launch date of [insert month here] every month between now and when it's actually released just to say you were right. We know the truth.

BJ
 
It was the right LAPTOP for what I needed at the time. I needed a LAPTOP that was light and could run a desktop OS, and the 12-inch Macbook was the right choice at the time for the work and travel that I do. Who are you to tell me what is the right or wrong laptop for me?

The Macbook is no way a tablet replacement, as it has nothing to do with a tablet with being a tablet.

It's a complete tablet replacement. It's a tablet without a touchscreen and powerful OS. That's exactly what reviewers have claimed it to be.

I'm telling you because your requirements are more than what you say.
 
It's a complete tablet replacement. It's a tablet without a touchscreen and powerful OS. That's exactly what reviewers have claimed it to be.

I'm telling you because your requirements are more than what you say.

I agree with half of what you're saying, but not the other half.

Yes, he bought the wrong laptop. He needs ports and processing power and the RMB eschews those for the utmost in portability. A few people experiment with the RMB and realize they need ports for legacy connections like SD cards, thumb drives, and VGA projectors and reject the RMB for all the grounds that it exists in the first place as it's the notebook that embraces the cloud and says goodbye to wires. They should have done the research, it happens.

No, the RMB is not a "complete tablet replacement". First, it's a tremendous notebook for those of us who don't game or render 4K videos, it does everything else quickly and efficiently. Powerpoint, Word, Excel, Outlook, Photoshop, these function flawlessly, no hiccups, it's a real notebook. Second, it doesn't fit on an airline tray table along with lunch like a tablet does, it doesn't let you browse email or play a game in bed like a tablet does, it doesn't boot up as quickly as a tablet does, it doesn't retain battery over weeks of downtime like a tablet does.

For those in the know, the 12" Retina MacBook + the iPad Air II = the Apple Dream Team for on-the-go productivity. There are desktop apps and there are iOS apps and they each have a different device that's best to execute them. The combination of the two still weighs considerably less than a MacBook Pro. Most RMB owners carry both devices.

BJ
 
I agree with half of what you're saying, but not the other half.

Yes, he bought the wrong laptop. He needs ports and processing power and the RMB eschews those for the utmost in portability. A few people experiment with the RMB and realize they need ports for legacy connections like SD cards, thumb drives, and VGA projectors and reject the RMB for all the grounds that it exists in the first place as it's the notebook that embraces the cloud and says goodbye to wires. They should have done the research, it happens.
BJ

Not sure what you mean by this. It was the right laptop for me at the time. Best Ultrabook for my needs until my needs changed as technology changes. Yes it tends to do that every now and then. :p

As for connectivity, I carried both the USB-C VGA and HDMI connect when traveling around the world for work and vacation. Since most of my work involves Windows an having a thin and having a fast processor, the Razer Blade Stealth currently suits my needs better. Once we see a Skylake rMB with USB-C with Thunderbolt 3, then I may change notebooks again.

Also, what better way to research a product than to personally own one to use for day to day things?
 
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