Buyer Beware: 11-inch iPad Pro has a new aspect ratio, and most apps have HUGE black bars

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Xeyad, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. BarrettF77 macrumors regular

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    Facebook hates Apple so that's no surprise. I hardly get on their crappy app anymore anyways. So no loss there. Mark is going to start giving speeches on social media to disarm people's views about data use. Hint: You wouldn't need to if you hadn't created the issue in the first place.

    Nest and Google being Android owned companies, it'll happen just not as quickly as we'd like. I wish Nest supported HomeKit, also unlikely.

    The rest, your guess is as good as mine...

    But many other apps have also been updated too! For me it's been a good indication of what developers are active with their apps and whites ones aren't. Helps weed out stale apps and see which ones I'm really and truly using too.

    Didn't Apple say they had to be updated by March or something of this year, or Am I thinking of something else?
     
  2. Macalway macrumors 68030

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    I think this 11 is great, but a little on the silly side. Apparently, almost all apps are not optimized, and probably will never be, except for a handful.

    Not the end of the world, but not ideal. I guess they used this ratio for the keyboard (as someone here pointed out to me at launch). If they had used a smaller 10", that might have been a little better, as it would be the same principle as the new 12.9.

    Maybe they will make a 10" Pro version. I would trade in this 11 for that, as I don't use the Apple Smart keyboard.

    Was the 11" a mistake? Perhaps. The thing is, there's no choice if you don't want to lug around the big version, and want the pro features.
     
  3. MEJHarrison macrumors 65816

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    I'd prefer to have some apps optimized for the bigger screen than to give up the bigger screen so I could have them all optimized. I don't even pay attention to what is and isn't optimized. I just use and love my device.

    I must say I'm fascinated by this attitude. It's like the notch all over again. It seems some people (myself included) pay so much attention to the content that they don't notice what surrounds it. Others, like yourself it seems, can't seem to ignore the areas surrounding the content and find it distracting. I tune out the little black bars and home bar indicator around my apps on my iPad and don't even notice the notch on my phone. For me, those things just fade away. Yet I've seen enough posts on both subjects to know that not everyone can do that. It's too bad since it seems to keep people from enjoying their devices as much.
     
  4. MisterSavage macrumors 6502

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    What? A good number of apps that I use have been updated. It took months for several apps to be updated for the iPhone X when it came out. Saying they 'probably will never be' is a shot in the dark.
     
  5. Macalway, Jan 26, 2019
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    Macalway macrumors 68030

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    Oh. I just bought one, and all the apps I normally use are not optimized, so I assumed this was the case. Good to know it's better than I thought.

    I just get the feeling that these said apps, will never be updated if they haven't already.

    One way or the other, I don't really care. I just saw this thread and thought i'd add to it. Seems my addition was rife with inaccuracies. At least i'm consistent? :)
     
  6. MisterSavage macrumors 6502

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    It's frustrating for certain. Google has updated some apps like Search and Google Photos, but not others like Gmail yet. There's an ongoing thread where people are listing when apps are updated to support the new resolution.
     
  7. azentropy macrumors 68020

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    Just got my 11" Pro this week and have been really disappointed and this is one of the reasons. So many of the apps I use regularly haven't been updated (and possibly never will be) so I get a smaller display area than I did on my 10.5".

    I'm also really missing a physical home button and Face ID is driving me crazy. Not because it isn't accurate or it is slow, but because the way I hold the iPad most of the time I'm constantly blocking the #@#$ing camera - hopefully that will improve but it is proving hard to break an almost 9 year habit to now be told I'm holding it wrong! ;). But that compounds the frustration. They remove the touchid/button for a bigger screen that isn't being used by many of my apps.
     
  8. WilliamG macrumors G3

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    Ideally there would have been two FaceID sensors in the bezels. But that’s just the way it is.
     
  9. ahostmadsen macrumors 6502a

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    Google Maps was just updated. And Facebook. So, it's getting there. But Amazon... Please update at least the Kindle App.
     
  10. Loge macrumors 68030

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    Maybe NFL Gamepass could be updated in time for the Super Bowl?

    Or at least before the start of next season?
     
  11. tps3443 macrumors regular

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    Does PUBG support full screen on the 12.9”? I have a 11” iPad Pro, and I’m getting tired of the black bars, the game is updated too. It has a option in graphics settings, for rounded corner displays. But yet, I have these big black bars still..
     
  12. Macalway macrumors 68030

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    After using it for a while, the borders don't bother me at all. Just looks like a 10.5 with some apps. A non-issue. Also, for my use, the face ID seems to be a huge advantage. Really easy.
     
  13. tps3443 macrumors regular

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    Face ID is very seamless, and it just works, it’s perfect honestly. You can only use 2 faces though, maybe they will let you add more eventually. I know when I use the finger print on my iPhone SE, I have like 4 different prints added for ease of unlocking with either thumb, or either index finger.
     
  14. ryanwarsaw macrumors 68020

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    Just ordered a 11' iPad Pro. Not sure what to think now. Is the 10.5" iPad Pro a better buy? Is this issue a real world problem or the sort of thing that simply lives on MR forums? I don't stare at my phone to see dead pixels or repeatedly obsess if my iPad is with in .0000000000005% tolerance. So is this going to bother me? Would I even really notice if it wasn't brought up here?
     
  15. MEJHarrison, Feb 2, 2019
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    MEJHarrison macrumors 65816

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    Congratulations!

    How about, Yay, I just ordered an 11" iPad Pro?

    For some it is, and for others it's not. Everyone has different needs and tastes.

    I don't know if my phone has dead pixels either. Or if my iPad is bent. They both appear good enough for me not to go looking for problems. I don't see the notch on my phone and I don't see big, black borders around my apps. Others do. So I can't say if it will bug you or not. But since you appear not to obsess over other things, I think you stand a great chance of loving your iPad. I certainly love mine.

    There's something that keeps getting brought up over and over and over. Keep in mind that more people come to sites like this because they have issues than people coming to give praise. So if you use this site as your guide, you may get a skewed perspective of reality. Also, some people come here in a deliberate attempt to turn a molehill into a mountain. If the situation were as dire as some would have you believe, Apple wouldn't be selling iPads. And there would be articles about it all over the place (not an article or two from some random bloggers with an ax to grind). The media loves a good Apple story and they wouldn't shy away from unusable iPads.

    The moral is, see how you like it. If you don't like it, return it. Otherwise, Congratulations! And try to take the problems you read about here with a grain of salt.
     
  16. ryanwarsaw macrumors 68020

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    I am just going to stick with the order. 12.9 s too big and it sounds like there are enough features to make the 11" a winner over the 10.5" I was going to go with the 10.5 with 128GB but will do the 11 with 64GB.

    My 12" MacBook died from a beer spill so hoping this will replace it. It still works but the keyboard is finished. Anybody know if I can just clam shell it and screen share somehow? There aren't many things I need a laptop for but the few I do would be great if that type of set up works.

    One of the few things I need is to get into my movie library on my time capsule and put it to my Apple TV. If there is an easy way to do this it is one step to not needing my laptop at all.
     
  17. neiltc13 macrumors 68040

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    Latest update to the YouTube app fixes the home bar overlapping buttons and controls.
     
  18. tps3443 macrumors regular

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    You will be fine with the 11” it’s like over 100% faster than the 10.5” model.
    The aspect ratio has never bothered me that much at all, it’s really fine.
     
  19. seajewel macrumors 6502

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    Gmail app finally got updated for the 11" IPP. I'm so relieved because those apps bother me a lot. Now I just need Amazon to get on board.
     
  20. MisterSavage macrumors 6502

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    I don't have my iPad with me. Is it the new material design or the existing "red" interface? Either way I'm happy they updated.
     
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    Google docs, sheets, slides updated as well. A big finally!!!
     
  23. stridemat Moderator

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    Amazon and BBC News for me. Then I think all my main apps have been updated.
     
  24. Macalway macrumors 68030

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    So they are slowly updating. that's good.
     
  25. Donfor39 macrumors 65816

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    Maybe more apps will be updated faster than it's taking sky to re stock 11" ASK
    Which is deferring my latest iPad purchase.
     

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