Buying Ram For New Mbp!!!

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  1. andresrw macrumors member

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    I'm plannig to buy the new MBP 15" at 2.2 and buying a $125 2 gb 1dimm ram at newegg.com so I can have 4 gb of ram for $250 instead of $675 at apple.com
    THE QUESTION IS IF THIS RAM WORK AT THE NEW MBP´s??? :confused:
     
  2. happygodavid macrumors member

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    From what I can tell so far...

    I believe the new MBP is capable of 4gb total RAM, but it only has 2 slots for memory. By buying one 2gb stick of memory, you will be expanding it to 3gb; to maximize the RAM capabilities, two 2gb sticks will eventually be required. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.)

    That having been said, I will recommend some memory, based both on reviews and experience: Mushkin. It's a Russian manufacturer of high-performance memory and is designed to run at cooler temperatures than most memory. Obviously, it's cheaper than Apple (what RAM isn't, for that matter?). I already looked today to see what they had on their website, and (the DAY OF the new MBP, no less) Mushkin had already posted the 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz models as being compatible with their product. These guys don't make junk; I submit to you that their memory is one of the best, if not THE best on the market. It'll cost you about $143, including shipping, per 2gb stick, if you order directly from them.

    Here's the link to what you need:
    http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=583
    If, for some reason, the link doesn't work, just go to mushkin.com, and you'll need Model # 971559A (2GB) Apple DDR2 SODIMM PC2-5300.

    Hope that helps. :)
     
  3. keenkreations macrumors regular

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    In regards to buying from Newegg.com (I personally love newegg, for the fast service and customer support), please make sure to use these specs when looking under notebook memory:
    DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)

    If you are looking for 4 GB of RAM (MPB maximum), buy two IDENTICAL modules. Doing so will ensure that you will utilize the Dual-Channel technology found on that logic board. Dual-Channel increases the performance capabilities of the RAM. Not doing so is wasted performance.

    If anything you can find information on mushkin.com or crucial.com
     
  4. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    THANKS SURFING THE PAGE RIGHT NOW!!!
     
  5. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    It can be possible that certain brands with that same especification dont work?
     
  6. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    I recommend it is best to purchase from a seller who tests and guarantees compatibility with your MacBook Pro, offers a lifetime warranty and a no cost (no restocking, no shipping) return if it doesn't work. That way you're not guessing if a particular brand from a PC discounter will work or not, and you're not hit with extra charges if it doesn't.

    If you are in the USA Data Memory Systems has guaranteed compatible 2 Gb modules for US$123 each. Other vendors most often recommended on MR, Crucial (a bit high at $185 each) and OWC ($129.99 each)

    Thanks
    Trevor
    CanadaRAM.com
     
  7. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    THANKS, anothe question i found this in the data memory systems web page:

    "NOTE: NOTE: The MacBook Pro is built with the Intel Core 2 Duo Processor. It has two memory sockets and can be upgraded to 3GBs maximum. Even though it is physically possible to install 4GBs, the MacBook Pro will only use 3GBs"

    IS IT TRUE????
     
  8. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    No. They haven't finished updating the webpage. (the machine just came out this morning, remember...)

    The new MBP according to Apple will access all 4 Gb
     
  9. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    ok, is this one better than the mushkin???
     
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  11. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    Better?
    All 100 % compatible memory in a given Mac will perform at precisely the same speed. (otherwise, it wouldn't be 100% compatible...)

    As I posted, it is less hassle to buy from a reputable Mac-oriented dealer rather than a big box or a PC discounter, because the seller is guaranteeing that it is compatible, and offering a 2 way free shipping replacement if there is any DOA trouble.

    If you buy Mushkin (or anything else not guaranteed-compatible) you take on a small added risk that the RAM won't be compatible, or that you may have extra charges for return.

    Applecare - I have no opinion on that seller or auction. In general I think that one needs to take an extra degree of care on any Ebay purchases. There is a far higher chance of being cheated on eBay than with a 'real' vendor who has a reputation and a brick and mortar presence.
     
  12. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    I understand exc, changint the memory would avoid warranty?
    and what do you thing about apple care at ebay???

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true
     
  13. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    OK, slow it down there champ.

    First off, your questions have been answered time and time again on MacRumors. The warranty question at least once today already. Please do a Search to look for answers before posting.

    Also give people more than 45 seconds to reply, machine gunning the forum does not win friends.

    Installing RAM does not void any warranty, as long as you do not break things in the process of installing.
     
  14. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    if i found someone who can help me and shows knowledge i would for sure keep on questioning. Thank you for your help i would not disturbe you again!:apple:
     
  15. aaronw1986 macrumors 68030

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    In my PB, I added 1 stick of RAM. I am thinking of buying the 2.4 MBP. Would it be logical if I wanted 4GB of RAM to buy 2X2GB sticks from crucial? I know crucial is more expensive, but I trust them. I just would feel weird removing all the originial RAM. With my student developer discount, this would make RAM upgrade 370 opposed to 600 from apple.
     
  16. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    I for sure going to buy the 2.2 ghz with 2 gb of ram (2x1 gb) and buy me a pair of 2 gigs dimms, not sure what brand (CanadaRAM and others have a few recom). Then i would sell the 2 1 gig dimms from the original machine.
    It feels weird but for what apple is charging for upgrading......
     
  17. aaronw1986 macrumors 68030

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    What if it ever needs servicing...wouldn't it be best to have the original ram to slap in?
     
  18. andresrw thread starter macrumors member

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    could be, but since the memory upgrade doent avoid warranty i dont see a problem...any comments someone?
     
  19. aaronw1986 macrumors 68030

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    you're right, it does not void warranty. From what I remember hearing, they like to have it in the form of what you got it, or they may blame that component. Maybe this was more for hard drives? Anyone else can help out?
     
  20. Devil's Refugee macrumors 6502

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    Why are you buying 667Mhz bus RAM when the Santa Rosa platform accomodates 800Mhz FSB ?
    Surely upgrading to the best RAM available is the better option :confused:
     
  21. aaronw1986 macrumors 68030

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    maybe because the MBP's right now only support 667Mhz RAM...and yes, I mean the SR ones
     
  22. euclidjr macrumors newbie

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    The bus speed is 800, but the memory controller is 667. So there's no point in buying 800.
     
  23. euclidjr macrumors newbie

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    As of this morning, OWC is showing a price 119.99 for their house brand ($239 for the pair) and 129.99 for the Techworks brand. They also offer you a rebate for selling your 1 GB sticks back to them - $25 per stick. I don't know their relative shipping charges.

    As for the warranty issue of having additional ram in your mac - I think Apple would have a very hard time complaining that additional ram adversely affected the operation of some apps - and in order to void a warranty, they would need, under Federal law (I think it is the Magnuson-Moss Act, but I'm sure someone will correct me), a connection between the modification and the failure sought to be covered by the warranty.
     
  24. Edandlindz28 macrumors regular

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    Use www.ramseeker.com it seems to look at all the different sites that everyone ref. here. I could be off on this though.
     
  25. happygodavid macrumors member

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    I still would suggest going with Mushkin. They have a reputation amongst computer geeks of having the "best timing." (Whatever that means.) Do a Google for "memory reviews" and maybe "memory reviews Mushkin", and you'll get several hits.
    Here's an example of what the pros think:
    http://www.legitreviews.com/article/294/

    I'm not an engineer, but according to what I've read, there IS a difference in RAM. There is a reason one brand costs more than others. As with anything, you get what you pay for.

    Here are some quotes I found from computer hardware review sites:
    "Overall the Mushkin XP-5300 2GB kit is a spectacular achievement, capable of both extremely tight timings and excellent overclockability as well. It has been a long time since truly low-latency DDR-2 was available, but with this product Mushkin has managed the impossible – both 3-3-3 timings and a top speed of well over 800MHz. Despite a relatively high selling price, for Intel users there simply isn’t better memory to choose right now. Very highly recommended."- bytesizedreviews.com

    "What separates the Mushkin XP2 PC2-5300 DDR memory from a lot of others at this point in time is how these modules thrive on voltage. This memory offers flexibility, whether used for video rendering, gaming or overclocking. Mushkin warrants this product to run at a voltage range from 2.1 to 2.3 volts...For gamers who seek fast timings and high bandwdith at stock memory ratios, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a very good choice. The same can be said for overclockers looking for the highest DDR2 clock speeds that they can find. There are a few memories that can go higher in speed than Mushkin DDR2, but there are very few current DDR2 modules that can do 3-3-3 timings to DDR2-700 and above, or DDR2 memories that can handle higher voltage as well as this Mushkin. For now, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a good choice among DDR2 1GB modules in 2GB kits."- anandtech.com

    Tons more... but read on your own, and you'll find what the pros think.

    By the way, Mushkin guarantees the RAM you buy from them will work. "We carefully select components and program each module to match the manufacturer installed memory and provide guaranteed compatibility...Trust Mushkin's exclusive PerfectMatchTM technology. It's guaranteed to provide true compatibility with your branded...system." -Mushkin.com

    Good luck.
     

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