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Buying Ram For New Mbp!!!

happygodavid said:
I still would suggest going with Mushkin. They have a reputation amongst computer geeks of having the "best timing." (Whatever that means.) Do a Google for "memory reviews" and maybe "memory reviews Mushkin", and you'll get several hits.
Here's an example of what the pros think:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/294/

I'm not an engineer, but according to what I've read, there IS a difference in RAM. There is a reason one brand costs more than others. As with anything, you get what you pay for.

Here are some quotes I found from computer hardware review sites:
"Overall the Mushkin XP-5300 2GB kit is a spectacular achievement, capable of both extremely tight timings and excellent overclockability as well. It has been a long time since truly low-latency DDR-2 was available, but with this product Mushkin has managed the impossible – both 3-3-3 timings and a top speed of well over 800MHz. Despite a relatively high selling price, for Intel users there simply isn’t better memory to choose right now. Very highly recommended."- bytesizedreviews.com

"What separates the Mushkin XP2 PC2-5300 DDR memory from a lot of others at this point in time is how these modules thrive on voltage. This memory offers flexibility, whether used for video rendering, gaming or overclocking. Mushkin warrants this product to run at a voltage range from 2.1 to 2.3 volts...For gamers who seek fast timings and high bandwdith at stock memory ratios, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a very good choice. The same can be said for overclockers looking for the highest DDR2 clock speeds that they can find. There are a few memories that can go higher in speed than Mushkin DDR2, but there are very few current DDR2 modules that can do 3-3-3 timings to DDR2-700 and above, or DDR2 memories that can handle higher voltage as well as this Mushkin. For now, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a good choice among DDR2 1GB modules in 2GB kits."- anandtech.com

Tons more... but read on your own, and you'll find what the pros think.

By the way, Mushkin guarantees the RAM you buy from them will work. "We carefully select components and program each module to match the manufacturer installed memory and provide guaranteed compatibility...Trust Mushkin's exclusive PerfectMatchTM technology. It's guaranteed to provide true compatibility with your branded...system." -Mushkin.com

Good luck.
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So do you work for this guys??? :D no no excelent post THANKS!
 
happygodavid said:
I still would suggest going with Mushkin. They have a reputation amongst computer geeks of having the "best timing." (Whatever that means.) Do a Google for "memory reviews" and maybe "memory reviews Mushkin", and you'll get several hits.
Here's an example of what the pros think:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/294/

I'm not an engineer, but according to what I've read, there IS a difference in RAM. There is a reason one brand costs more than others. As with anything, you get what you pay for.

Here are some quotes I found from computer hardware review sites:
"Overall the Mushkin XP-5300 2GB kit is a spectacular achievement, capable of both extremely tight timings and excellent overclockability as well. It has been a long time since truly low-latency DDR-2 was available, but with this product Mushkin has managed the impossible – both 3-3-3 timings and a top speed of well over 800MHz. Despite a relatively high selling price, for Intel users there simply isn’t better memory to choose right now. Very highly recommended."- bytesizedreviews.com

"What separates the Mushkin XP2 PC2-5300 DDR memory from a lot of others at this point in time is how these modules thrive on voltage. This memory offers flexibility, whether used for video rendering, gaming or overclocking. Mushkin warrants this product to run at a voltage range from 2.1 to 2.3 volts...For gamers who seek fast timings and high bandwdith at stock memory ratios, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a very good choice. The same can be said for overclockers looking for the highest DDR2 clock speeds that they can find. There are a few memories that can go higher in speed than Mushkin DDR2, but there are very few current DDR2 modules that can do 3-3-3 timings to DDR2-700 and above, or DDR2 memories that can handle higher voltage as well as this Mushkin. For now, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a good choice among DDR2 1GB modules in 2GB kits."- anandtech.com

Tons more... but read on your own, and you'll find what the pros think.

By the way, Mushkin guarantees the RAM you buy from them will work. "We carefully select components and program each module to match the manufacturer installed memory and provide guaranteed compatibility...Trust Mushkin's exclusive PerfectMatchTM technology. It's guaranteed to provide true compatibility with your branded...system." -Mushkin.com

Good luck.
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There is NO difference for Macs with generic ram or ones from enthusiast brands such as Corsair, OCZ or Mushkin as long as the generic ram are guaranteed to be mac compatible. Enthusiast ram is only important if you want to push the ram past its rated specifications such as overclocking and tightening the timing. With macs, you cannot adjust the cas timings, voltage as you can with a PC in the BIOS. You also linked to desktop ram, where overclocking is more prevalent.
 
wait for DDR2 800 to become cheaper and more widely available. It'll inevitably fall.

you want to take full potential of your MBP right? Why not wait?
 
happygodavid said:
I still would suggest going with Mushkin. They have a reputation amongst computer geeks of having the "best timing." (Whatever that means.) Do a Google for "memory reviews" and maybe "memory reviews Mushkin", and you'll get several hits.
Here's an example of what the pros think:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/294/

I'm not an engineer, but according to what I've read, there IS a difference in RAM. There is a reason one brand costs more than others. As with anything, you get what you pay for.

Here are some quotes I found from computer hardware review sites:
"Overall the Mushkin XP-5300 2GB kit is a spectacular achievement, capable of both extremely tight timings and excellent overclockability as well. It has been a long time since truly low-latency DDR-2 was available, but with this product Mushkin has managed the impossible – both 3-3-3 timings and a top speed of well over 800MHz. Despite a relatively high selling price, for Intel users there simply isn’t better memory to choose right now. Very highly recommended."- bytesizedreviews.com

"What separates the Mushkin XP2 PC2-5300 DDR memory from a lot of others at this point in time is how these modules thrive on voltage. This memory offers flexibility, whether used for video rendering, gaming or overclocking. Mushkin warrants this product to run at a voltage range from 2.1 to 2.3 volts...For gamers who seek fast timings and high bandwdith at stock memory ratios, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a very good choice. The same can be said for overclockers looking for the highest DDR2 clock speeds that they can find. There are a few memories that can go higher in speed than Mushkin DDR2, but there are very few current DDR2 modules that can do 3-3-3 timings to DDR2-700 and above, or DDR2 memories that can handle higher voltage as well as this Mushkin. For now, the Mushkin XP2-5300 is a good choice among DDR2 1GB modules in 2GB kits."- anandtech.com

Tons more... but read on your own, and you'll find what the pros think.

By the way, Mushkin guarantees the RAM you buy from them will work. "We carefully select components and program each module to match the manufacturer installed memory and provide guaranteed compatibility...Trust Mushkin's exclusive PerfectMatchTM technology. It's guaranteed to provide true compatibility with your branded...system." -Mushkin.com

Good luck.
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The references to timing (above) are not applicable:

1) it is talking about DDR DIMMs, not SODIMMs, and for RAM intended to be used by overclockers in PCs.

2) Macs are not overclockable, and do not (based on any documentation I have seen) utilize any accelerated latency timings.

3) Macs do nut run RAM at elevated voltages

4) The Mac sets the timings, not the RAM module.

So the performance of 100% compatible Mac RAM will be precisely, exactly the same between brands.

Mushkin guarantees one module, 971559A for Macs - which they are charging US$140 for. Apart from being more expensive than DMS and OWC, this is a fine module. Just be very certain when pricing Mushkin from a discounter like NewEgg, that you are getting this exact model number, not another -- otherwise, you don't have Mushkin's compatibility guarantee.
 
Front side bus frequency is not the same as the speed that the memory controller supports. The Intel PM965 chipset has a 667MHz DDR2 Memory controller, but 800MHz FSB.
 
Compatibility?

Does the new Macbook Pro also supports DDR2 PC5300 SO-DIMM Memory?
Musicstore says that it is, if so, the memory is even much cheaper than crucial.

here is the link:

www.musicstore.de
(look for macbook pro and on that page you will see the memory)
 
MGLXP said:
Front side bus frequency is not the same as the speed that the memory controller supports. The Intel PM965 chipset has a 667MHz DDR2 Memory controller, but 800MHz FSB.
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Sure, when Intel marketing wrote up the pdf, back when only Transcend had announced, but not shipped 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM, you would expect the literature to only say the mem controller supports those RAM currently on the market, currently available 6 months ago. So are you saying that Intel has no idea of what is on the near horizon, and did not anticipate 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM becoming available in the later half of 2007, and would not have included support for those in the mem controller? Umm, if manufacturers (well AMD will have a mobile chipset/CPU that does utilize 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM, even if it comes out that Santa Rosa's chipset set does not) did not anticipate any laptops using 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM's until 2008, what the heck is Crucial orTranscend (announced beginning, January??) doing selling these 800Mhz if there are NO systems that can utilized them?


Possible, but consider the rumors have Montevina supporting the faster, and more energy efficient DDR3 mem, so why would Intel wait until early 2008 to support DDR2 800Mhz, which is now just becoming widely available at near 667Mhz prices (current 2GB Crucial modules @800Mhz SODIMM are ~$200, down from $300 just a month ago)?

Read the forum thread at the link I posted on MR, Intel's old specs didn't account for 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM coming onto the market as quickly as they did. It could be that 800Mhz is supported, just that spec's at the time Santa Rosa was being implemented didn't show this, because other than Transcend, no companies has 800Mhz available. Read the linked forum discussion about the T61 using 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM in my MR post here

newegg lists a 160GB hybrid NAND flash notebook drive from Samsung. I expect anandtech to do a follow up to their article, which MR Admin's failed to emphasize, did not test the 'ReadyDrive' portion of Robson, just the ReadyBoost.
 
Mushkin Coupon Code

I just ordered 2GB for my Macbook for $75 shipped.
Don't know if this was posted already but you cant beat the price. Newegg is selling the same ram module for $50+. Get it direct for $36.

Just enter "appleusergroups" in the discount/promo code box on the left after you register and you will be good to goo.

Enjoy

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A user group web store is now available with the same pricing given to
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Visit Mushkin's special User Group Store.
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This worldwide offer is ongoing.
 
I just bought the 4 gig upgrade from Crucial.

Half the price of Apple, and I have never had quality issues with their stuff--knock on wood.

Sure, you can find cheaper, but I think Crucial is a great intersection between cost and quality. (Again, knock on wood for the new memory coming....)
 
BWhaler said:
I just bought the 4 gig upgrade from Crucial.

Half the price of Apple, and I have never had quality issues with their stuff--knock on wood.

Sure, you can find cheaper, but I think Crucial is a great intersection between cost and quality. (Again, knock on wood for the new memory coming....)
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I think that is the route I will also be taking. I trust crucial, as I've put it in a PB and PC before with no issues.
 
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