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No matter what you have, over time (and a relatively short time) you acclimate to it.
 
This just seems extremely selfish to me. Have you ever thought of the hell you are putting the Apple Store employees through? Life isn't perfect. It's not the end of the world if there is a tiny chip in the coating of a device. You will end up getting more dings in it with normal use. After a few dings from use, the one out of the box ding will be insignificant.

Really? Selfish? When I pay this much for a phone, I don't expect any scuffs or marks on it. If you e.g. buy a brand new car and finds scuffs in its lacquer, wouldn't you complain?

I would never settle with scuffed phones or whatever, when I buy brand new items.
 
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What's wrong with being "selfish" anyway?

The Apple Store employees are paid to be there, and Apple is making more than a healthy margin on the phones (especially large capacity) - why should a customer being sold perfection accept anything less?

I think you got me wrong - that was exactly what I meant with my post. I didn't mean he should accept the scuffs or scratches as-is.
 
I think you got me wrong - that was exactly what I meant with my post. I didn't mean he should accept the scuffs or scratches as-is.
My questions were largely rhetorical, though "The Virtue of Selfishness" isn't universally accepted ;)

I was restating your point but you're right; really I should have quoted "Silverbird0000" directly.
 
The anal retentiveness by a few demonstrated in this topic is why there are shortage during first few months at launch. Yes I understand the desire for perfect device, but going through 5+ units on average is ludicrous. And pity Apple allows this. If they were just slightly more strict, they wouldn't have allowed so many exchanges, they wouldn't need to set aside so many service units and use that stock as new product to sell at launch. Also AppleCare+ prices wouldn't be going up every year if a slightly more strict policy were used.
 
The anal retentiveness by a few demonstrated in this topic is why there are shortage during first few months at launch. Yes I understand the desire for perfect device, but going through 5+ units on average is ludicrous. And pity Apple allows this. If they were just slightly more strict, they wouldn't have allowed so many exchanges, they wouldn't need to set aside so many service units and use that stock as new product to sell at launch. Also AppleCare+ prices wouldn't be going up every year if a slightly more strict policy were used.
How about they improve QC and live up to the premium brand they are selling?
 
The anal retentiveness by a few demonstrated in this topic is why there are shortage during first few months at launch. Yes I understand the desire for perfect device, but going through 5+ units on average is ludicrous. And pity Apple allows this. If they were just slightly more strict, they wouldn't have allowed so many exchanges, they wouldn't need to set aside so many service units and use that stock as new product to sell at launch. Also AppleCare+ prices wouldn't be going up every year if a slightly more strict policy were used.
As if lol. You think someone replacing a phone 20 times causes shortages? Apple makes 8000 iPhones a second. They have 6 factories in China (Im in China and have seen them) that are HUGE. Little 8 year olds making the phones. Apple needs to get out of China and improve quality.
 
As if lol. You think someone replacing a phone 20 times causes shortages? Apple makes 8000 iPhones a second. They have 6 factories in China (Im in China and have seen them) that are HUGE. Little 8 year olds making the phones. Apple needs to get out of China and improve quality.
now explain where there are shortages.....
 
Or you could not be the guinea pig with the preorders and wait a few months for things to smooth out. I have no doubt quality control improvements are made during the production lifecycle based on consumer launch feedback.

You shouldn't have to wait months for a company to get their product right JUST so you can have a "clean" product, though... especially one they've been selling and manufacturing for so many years.
 
You shouldn't have to wait months for a company to get their product right JUST so you can have a "clean" product, though... especially one they've been selling and manufacturing for so many years.

The phone's guts are different every release. This can add a myriad of new test cases and potential issues for every tiny change you make. No matter how much testing you do in house, having it millions of users hands will fine tune your processes.

Just saying.... if you lean towards the OCD side, being in the first batch straight off the production line is never really a good idea.
 
Or you could not be the guinea pig with the preorders and wait a few months for things to smooth out. I have no doubt quality control improvements are made during the production lifecycle based on consumer launch feedback.
As a developer I have no choice. That still doesn't help the many millions of people that get product billed as second-to-none but passed through lax QC where a dead pixel in a prominent region of the screen is detected and deemed passable by the standards Apple dictates to OEMs, or where the line workers don't have accountability and thus no incentive to ensure a defect-free anodized layer.
 
I miss the days when I just bought one of these things and I used it, it was great. Over the last year or two, I've started learning more and more about these potential problems, and now that I know they exist I look for them.

IT SUCKS.

I really don't think there's a way to go back after you learn about these problems, either.

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I miss the days when I just bought one of these things and I used it, it was great. Over the last year or two, I've started learning more and more about these potential problems, and now that I know they exist I look for them.

IT SUCKS.

I really don't think there's a way to go back after you learn about these problems, either.

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lol, Me too remember the good old day unbox and enjoy now is unbox and inspect the screen for dead/stuck pixels and dust under screen.
Lot more people are going to get OCD soon.
 
The best solution for this is to buy cheap used iPhones from friends and family. Low cost and used means no expectation of perfection, as the device probably comes pre-dented and scratched.

The downside of this is you don't get the latest and greatest.
I think this is good advice. I have some sort of OCD and I decided to buy used Iphones that are in very good condition. Im not seeking for scratches or etc any more. Very good decision IMO. I still check for a screen uniformity but im fine with that.

So old post lol
 
Only ever had problems with iPhones when it comes to build quality. Samsung and SONY are perfect out of the box every time.
 
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