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Buymusic.com Blocks Mac Users!

Idea_Hamster brings up a good point. Competition is actually a good thing for us. Sure, iTMS is amazing and there is nothing else out that remotely compares. But truth is that we need other services to at least come close to what Apple offers. Competition is healthy for us consumers. I'm not saying Apple is going to just sit on this version of iTMS for years, but if something else comes out and shows a better way of doing something, I sure hope Apple takes notice.

There's something to be said about the difference between copying and making something better. I'm all for making existing things better. That's good for everyone. Honestly, I wish that Microsoft and the PC world would take note of that. If they took Apple's ideas and made them better, that would in turn make Apple work harder at making theirs better. Such is not the case now.

For example, Apple DID copy XP with fast user switching in Panther. But Apple didn't just copy, they made it better. Online music stores have existed for a few years now. Apple didn't copy them, they just made them better.

There's is something to be said about a company that tries to improve everything that they and their industry does. For that I wish that others in the computing world followed suit.
 
well, i don't see the point. what is the big deal? apple will have pother competition tat will do this also.
there's no point in complaining because they will al be stubbourn
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
How do you look up to see what operating system the site uses?
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You mean the site or the visitors?

They're hosting with Akamai, so I assume *Nix servers.

As for finding out the visitor's OS and browser, there are several methods. HTTP has several variables that get OS and browser info. They happen to be using a javascript to sniff out the info.
 
Fair points, but while...
Originally posted by DreaminDirector
...[t]here's is something to be said about a company that tries to improve everything that they and their industry does...
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there is *nothing* to be said for the half-baked saltine-cracker-without-the-salt knock-offs that windows users get fed day in and out.

This may use up my last ounce of patience for the windows people.

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I think now I have to find a new signature line. Hmmm....

Stay tuned ladies and gentlemen!
</OT>
 
Oh MAN! This is too funny!

Now, I'll be happy to give the rest of my credit card (about $2) to anyone who can get a way past this and to the feedback section. Sewiously folks,[/homestar] this is freaking hysterical.

Uh. Right. DEATH TO BUYMUSIC! LONG LIVE THE iTMS!

Yeah. I'll go sleep. Caffiene is a wonderful drug, really.
 
hmmm...maybe changing the user agent could help

yep, works just fine

sorry if this is a repost
 
Originally posted by Phelark
Oh MAN! This is too funny!

Now, I'll be happy to give the rest of my credit card (about $2) to anyone who can get a way past this and to the feedback section. Sewiously folks,[/homestar] this is freaking hysterical.

Uh. Right. DEATH TO BUYMUSIC! LONG LIVE THE iTMS!

Yeah. I'll go sleep. Caffiene is a wonderful drug, really.
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here ya go.

iJon
 

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Hack to bypass buymusic.com blacok on macs

Open the terminal and copy/paste:

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

If Safari is open, quit it and restart. Otherwise just open it up. Now look at the menu bar at the top right. It should read "debug", and you're right if you think it's new. Click it and go down to "User Agent" and then hit Windows MSIE 6. That's it. Go check out those crazy cats at BuyMusic!

Thanks to macmerc.com
http://www.macmerc.com/news/hax0r/984
 
uber-leet OS Sniffer

Originally posted by King Cobra
This thread reminds me:

How do you look up to see what operating system the site uses?

:rolleyes:
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The best way I've found is using an open-source UNIX based neato-ponito app called "nmap". It's distributed for Darwin under the Fink project: h**p://fink.sourceforge.net. Plus it comes with like 209872315 other apps. You just download each one if you want it, using the FInkCommander app. Unfortunately, I'm new to nmap, and I couldn't get an OS detection. It says no exact match. I'm going to try a few different types of scans.

[edit]Got it to work. Use IP addys, not hostnames, i guess when it fials to resolve a hostname it uses the ISP router o_O.
Interesting ports on a64-124-29-36.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com (64.124.29.36):
(The 1596 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port State Service
22/tcp open ssh
23/tcp open telnet
80/tcp open http
443/tcp open https
500/tcp open isakmp
Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20 w/o tcp_timestamps
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
Difficulty=2571477 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 141 seconds

I don't know what the TCP Sequ... means. But yeah, it runs Linux 2.4-2.5.2[/edit]
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
This thread reminds me:

How do you look up to see what operating system the site uses?

:rolleyes:

The real question: What did we ever do to BuyMusic.com to make them feel so Windows-Pro?
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Maybe they're in bed with m$??? Juvenile...
 
for anyone wondering how to find out what operating system a user is running that is looking at your site, here's the source that buymusic uses to find out what you are running...it's javascript.

Code: 
<script language="Javascript">
		<!--
			var mac = navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Mac")>-1
			var opera = navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Opera")>-1
			//IE5+ required, netscape, macs, and opera are not supported
			if (navigator.appName == "Netscape" || mac || opera) {
				musicLink = false
					window.location.href="/ierequired.htm";
			} else {
				//find out if its ie, then version 5+
				var tmpIEVerInfo = navigator.userAgent.indexOf("MSIE ") + 5;
				if(tmpIEVerInfo != -1)
				{
					if(parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(tmpIEVerInfo, tmpIEVerInfo+1)) < 5)
						window.location.href="/ierequired.htm";
				}
				else
				{
					window.location.href="/ierequired.htm";
				}
				musicLink = true
			}
			//-->
		</script>
 
Re: Buymusic.com Blocks Mac Users!

Originally posted by c2kvette
The morons have now totally blocked Mac users from even accessing their webiste - what kind of company is this??
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How do we know Apple isn't behind this? I would guess that the license terms Apple signed with the record cos. required that iTMS be teh exclusive outlet for their music purchased online, and probably the cos. reduced that to online purchases using macs (or something like that). Think about it: Apple doesn't want competition for its online music store. It knew a competing service would come along, and this prevents it from coming along and undermining what apple accomplished.
 
Ha ha! It blocks me when using Windows XP / IE 6!

"In order to take full advantage of BuyMusic.com's offerings you must be on a Windows Operating System using Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher."

Wonder if it's looking for something I shut off?
 
Next month would be perfect timing for iTMS on PC. There will be plenty of disillusioned Buymusic.com users who see iTMS as a stable and easy alternative.
 
Hey iJon, that article over at Scriptygoddess is awesome. I can't believe what BuyMusic has in their Privacy Policies. Everyone should read the article if they haven't already.

Just more fuel for the fire. Burn, baby burn!

edit: I just noticed BuyMusic's tagline is "Get Loaded". How funny is that?!? You gotta be wasted to use their site!
 
I just tried their site with IE 6 on a Dell system running Windows 2000 Professional with Windows Media Player 9. The site itself loaded just fine, but that's about it. The site itself is difficult to navigate (except for the services that they obviously want you to visit for them to make money), the layout is a blatant ripoff of the iTMS, I'm unable to watch the commercials (or any of the videos they have for that matter), and I can't even preview any tracks! And without even viewing the commericials, the still images of them make it glaringly obvious that they must be almost exact copies of the iTMS commercials.

The review at scriptygoddess only reaffirms their absolute incompetance at creating a "good user experience." Words can't express the hopelessness of this utterly pathetic attempt to copy Apple.

Here's to iTMS for Windows!
 
going down in flames

Originally posted by groovebuster
In addition to that...

I tried to access the pages from a Windows-Box with IE 5.5 and it crashed immediately. It was the first time since a very long time that IE crashed on this particular machine. A second try had the same result.

Also very curious is, that in Safari the home page could be seen for like half a second, before that "no service" page showed up. So it is not a technical thing, it is on purpose.

Poor, very poor...

groovebuster
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Wow. Totally denied. It is definatly on purpose. I guess they couldn't handle the macrumors crew :)
 
Originally posted by VIREBEL661
Maybe they're in bed with m$??? Juvenile...
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It's Microsoft's world--you don't have to do much more than wake up in the morning and take a breath before you're "in bed" with Microsoft. The question is did Microsoft use excessive muscle on them. Their songs are in a propriatary Windows format and now they require you to use Windows and IE to even look at the website. Pretty pro-Microsoft. I can see 2 alternatives. Either they blocked the website to Mac users because we'd been bashing them (aka arming prospective customers with the facts of how much better iTMS is), or they good-naturedly want to give Windows users something as cool and exclusive as iTMS. Of course in typical Windows fashion it's not cool--just based on something cool.

In any event I don't really care--I do find this all very interesting though.
 
Hey someone just pointed out that they use Javascript to figure out what system and such you're using!

There are 2 ways I know to get in:

Activate the debug menu and run under a different Agent.

OR

Just turn off Javascript in the Security Preferences!!!!


Sorry if that was mentioned.
 
beat me to it

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Just turn off Javascript in the Security Preferences!!!!

Sorry if that was mentioned.
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he he, I read all the way through and no one actually pointed this out as a solution. I've already sent two emails to their customer service mail box. Turning Javascript on and off is a good way to get through really crappy sites.:)
 
Originally posted by mnkeybsness

Code: 
netscape, macs, and opera are not supported
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I still find it interesting that is doesn't block everything that instead of blocking browsers not equal to Internet Explorer, it blocks just Opera and Netscape (And IE for the Mac). So, for example, using Konquerer on LINUX or having Safari identify itself as Konquerer works just fine. It's really kind of a joke, and I wonder if it's so poorly designed in an attempt to pretend to comply with some contractual requirement (as was mentioned above), but allow people to easily get around it.

Although I'm not willing to do it, has anyone tried to purchase music from a Mac? I'm very interested if their claim that IE is required for their usage controls to work is true.

At any rate, since it's Windows (and Windows people work quickly on stuff like this), the usage controls should have been broken by... 10 minutes ago.

Update: Change of plan. I'm going to try to buy a song (and then hack it), just for fun. First thing is to find a song I like...
 
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