Bye Bye iPhone...Hello BlackBerry Bold 9700

[cmChimera]

So I work at an AT&T Device support center, and we've been open for one hour today.....And we've seen two 9700s. I had to change out 4 yesterday. The phone is garbage, and nearly all of your complaints of iPhone are either no different on the 9700, or simply user error on your part. Good luck on your bad decision.

 

[Blueline29]

Which iPhone do you have? My 3Gs never EVER lagged.

This is what I was wondering as well. Mine's never been laggy in the slightest and it's even *gasp* jailbroken and I *shudder* run Winterboard!

 

[timerollson]

I'm doing the opposite. Aside from the great e-mail service, my Blackberry Tour runs like ****. The apps are slow to load, my phone constantly freezes and I have to do a battery pull at least twice a day. Then, it takes ~10 minutes to boot. The internet browser sucks and it's slow.

I thought upgrading to 5.0 would be a godsend. Turns out that if I'm typing too fast during an SMS or e-mail reply it freezes causing ....guess what? Another battery pull. Another 10 minutes of wait time. It's a vicious cycle and I'm over it.

RIM needs to focus on making their OS better. Even the preview for OS 6.0 looks more evolutionary than revolutionary. Goodbye RIM.

 

[dukebound85]

Nothing to do with being a fan boy. We’re mostly amazed that anyone bothers posting they’re leaving. Go to the website for whatever phone you’re getting and make your first post there introducing yourself and then start finding out about your new phone. Seriously. This isn’t MacBlogs.

from the thread you created

My opinion is that we should not have separate forums for products that compete with Apple.

Users should post threads about competing products in the forum for Apple's equivalent product. That's the most appropriate place for it and it's where others would search or browse if they were looking for such a thread.

If we had a single "Competing Products" forum, it would have a mixture of threads about rival smart phones, computers, MP3 players, media players, office productivity suites, web-based services, etc. Users would be unlikely to go browsing in such a forum. We also don't want a separate "competitors" forum for each type of Apple product. We're already doing our best to fight forum bloat.

There are good reasons to discuss Apple's competitors, not the least of which is comparison shopping. It's also instructive to consider how the competition stacks up feature by feature and how Apple might change their products to compete.

If someone tries to derail a thread simply because it's discussing Apple's competitors, report their post. On the flipside, if you think a user is posting about non-Apple products simply to troll among users of Apple's product, report that too. But when users are simply discussing the choices that consumers have, Apple vs. non-Apple, it's fine.

 

[harry20larry]

1.) I have never ever had lag on my 3GS, 3Gs and 2Gs lag big time, if this is the main reason, go for a 3GS or wait for the HD

2.) Just look at the top 25 of each section, best apps sell the best. Although, I do completely agree with you, there is a lot of crapps

3.) This either bothers you or not, for me, nope. But for some others I can understand it is a real annoyance. What I wanna know is why a companies attitude to another company is reflecting in your taste of their product? (Sorry to sound cynical, but, enjoy the great web browsing experience on BB :s)

4.) Lots of people have the iPhone because it is a great product, but I honestly think that someone has to be very vain to judge somebody by the phone they use. There are options out there to edit office files, but blackberry's don't edit office files out the box, you buy them from their app store. Or in the case of my company, they preload the blackberry with them.

5.) Meh, I have had 2 iPhones in the past 3 years, never a single fault. The only protection I have used on them is the invisible shield. But I think is generally down to how a person uses a phone, my brother cannot have any other phone other than a nokia because all the other 'break too easily'

6.) Umm, I paid for my new dell PC, I pay £15 a month for internet, and I get shown ads when I go to sites, why are they showing me ads on a device and platform I paid for. Your argument is terrible on this point, sorry.

7.) It is finally here, and it has taken a while, but i gotta say, it was worth the wait

I agree, Apple has gone pretty crazy recently. However, I don't think a company's attitude should affect which phone you get. Everyone knew that Apple stole GUI from Xerox, but nobody didn't buy the Mac to take the moral high ground? I buy products simply down to how well they work and function, regard Apple technology, it is pretty much the gold standard. What Apple looses regards function, they make up for with the execution of all the features they have. This is just 2 cents

 

[joshellis625]

I made the same mistake as you OP a long time ago. Look where I ended up again. Just stick with it.

 

[GamecockMac]

4.) Every teenager and chav has an iPhone now. The iPhone has lost it's class.

I quit reading right there. I don't make decisions to purchase products based on who else owns them, and don't have a modicum of respect for the opinions of anyone who does.

 

[ulbador]

I quit reading right there. I don't make decisions to purchase products based on who else owns them, and don't have an modicum of respect for the opinions of anyone who does.

I would say I agree, but, I actually switched to AT&T and bought a RAZR because a bunch of my friends had them. They were just so freaking cool (and this was before they were available on Verizon or anywhere else).

I don't think other people having them would figure into a decision NOT to buy one though.

 

[ulbador]

This is what I was wondering as well. Mine's never been laggy in the slightest and it's even *gasp* jailbroken and I *shudder* run Winterboard!

My 3G was pretty bad towards the end, and of course it was jailbroken, has lockinfo and all that fun stuff. Switching to the 3GS was pretty amazing in the difference in speed.

 

[ucfgrad93]

If I ever get rid of my iPhone it will most likely be for an Android phone. But, enjoy your Blackberry.

 

[DaZe3]

i also switched to the new bold 9700.. it sucks compared to the iphone3gs... im waiting for the iphone 4g then im switching back.. regret going to blackberry.. only thing that blackberry beats iphone with is bbm

 

[gangst]

I think the majority are missing the point, but reading between the lines the majority here are fanboi's trying to kid themselves that they are not. Comes with the territory I guess but quite disappointing that the reality distortion field is this great these days.

My move to BlackBerry is not so much about the quality of the phones, both do the same things give or take a few features in their own ways.

The point is, Apple think they have the best device and are acting like they have, almost as if competition doesn't exist. It's a bad attitude, end of. It is also true that 4-5 years ago before the iPod was a hit they wouldn't have dared carry on like they have done of late. Apple is really developing into a corporate monster, they don't want t to play fair, I know longer carry the respect I once did for Jobs.

I think Apple needs a few knocks to get back to being an innovater rather than a manipulator. I actually hope Nokia wins it's lawsuit regarding licensing technologies against Apple, I also hope web Flash maintains market share and for the sake of a mobile device a creative platform isn't lost.

Yes the device has flaws, but all devices do. However, the company has many more and whilst you can argue the iPhone never lags etc etc...I as a long term Apple user and shareholder will make my stand and abandon the devcice. Maybe it is possible Apple will realise this, the fact the old timers the very people which helped make Apple what it is today are leaving; yet it may be past that, Apple probably thinks that any customer can be replaced, but with many of competitors having closed the gap the iPhone once held over the market Apple might regret it's 'attitude' at this time.

 

[Fabienne]

I am sure that Apple will have your mighty complaint noted and logged. In the meantime you can find out how great the Blackberry really is. That will be your punishment for hubris.

 

[millertime021]

And I'm going to call you a fanboy of something since that seems to be the usual argument that people throw out when they are losing an argument.

Am I doing it right?

What am I a fanboy of and what argument am I losing?

I was just making fun of Twitter haha.

 

[millertime021]

OP, get off our forums.

http://crackberry.com/

There, go there now.

 

[Kadman]

OP, get off our forums.

http://crackberry.com/

There, go there now.

You, in no way at all, own any part of this forum. So, if you don't like what he posts then it's you who can leave the forums or simply avoid clearly marked topics you don't agree with. Any sizable community created around a particular product or service will (hopefully) include positive and negative posts as well as comparisons to competing solutions. Yes, this includes discussions around why someone ultimately decided on an alternate solution.

These can be healthy discussion that provide beneficial viewpoints for those in the decision making process. However, they often get bogged down by people such as yourself who simply want to put their fingers in their ears, blinders to the sides of their eyes, and listen to the mantra that's being spoon fed to them.

As for the original thought of leaving for a competing device, I hadn't given it too much thought before but I personally feel that some of the Android OS based devices have reached a point where they might swoon me away from the "trickling in of basic features" approach that Apple has been stringing us along with. Most, if not all of the "advances" they've introduced should have been in their first release and were part of solutions from other vendors.

 

[XDsubcompact]

hahaha

You broke 4 iPhones in 2 years? You must be one clumsy ass dude because mine is almost 2 years old and I'm still on #1. If you're that clumsy, no phone stands a chance with you.

 

[shandyman]

I agree with you on this point. I hate the idea of iAd. I'm sure most apps re-written for 4.0 will take advantage of iAd.

The other thing that is really bothering me is the rumor of Facebook integration into 4.0 OS. I don't have a Facebook account and I don't want one. If they don't have the option to remove or at least turn off the Facebook features I'll have to pass on the new iPhone.

why do people seem to think iAds is gonna have an effect on the iPhone? alot of apps already have ads, from the impression given at the keynote, iAd is just gonna be there to replace the existing ads in apps, not fill everything we use with ads. if there are more ads in apps, thats down to the developers, not apple....

 

[ejmccartin]

I've had a few different blackberries over the years and spent a good amount of time on the different BB forums. I'm not sure a goodbye note like that would have been treated so civilly on other boards.

Been considering jumping to the iphone and reading quietly here for a while. Debates like this are very helpful to see both sides.

 

[gangst]

OP, get off our forums.

http://crackberry.com/

There, go there now.

Please, if you are this ignorant/ naive, you get off the forums. I note you've been a member here since early 2010, I've been here since 2004, you could argue on that basis that you get off 'our' forum. (btw, who is 'our' the fanboi's)

You broke 4 iPhones in 2 years? You must be one clumsy ass dude because mine is almost 2 years old and I'm still on #1. If you're that clumsy, no phone stands a chance with you.

Perhaps, I use my phone a lot more than you. A battery flaw and a broken microphone are not caused by being 'clumsy' but by hardware faults. The other two I dropped so I will take the blame for 2 in 2 years as fault of my own.

why do people seem to think iAds is gonna have an effect on the iPhone? alot of apps already have ads, from the impression given at the keynote, iAd is just gonna be there to replace the existing ads in apps, not fill everything we use with ads. if there are more ads in apps, thats down to the developers, not apple....

Since when did people enjoy ads? You might get that one ad that makes you laugh but after you've seen it once so what. iAds will be a mass sell out to global corporations who's creativeness in the form of Ads is low at best. Do you really want to endure GE or P&G ads???

It's also quite ironic that whilst Apple seemingly 'loves' locking down development of the iPhone, they allow developers to place free ads in their apps. I'm sure many users would rather pay a $1 or whatever for the app and have no ads. Yet that misses the point, half the apps are rubbish that no one would pay for, Apple would rather turn a blind eye to advertising in apps as ultimately it adds to the app store tally and whilst they fill the app store with rubbish they can seemingly boast to 185,000 third party apps (of which you will probably consistently use 5, as the majority are useless fad apps e.g. iPint, then there's the stuff that anyone with half a brain can do e.g. service charge calculators, then there's the repeats; the app store must have 1000 unit converters by now....you get the picture). Shame they don't give the deletion statistics too

 

[ATC]

I hope the OP is happy with his decision. There are some benefits to having a BB (namely a quality KB, BBM, generally less data usage and decent battery life).

But I think you might be disappointed sooner rather than later with the Bold. I have the Bold and previously had two other BBs, been a BB user for 4+ years and there are some serious drawbacks to a BB compared to the iPhone (seen them firsthand having used both).

The Bold may appear fast initially but it will slow down to a crawl over time. Memory constraints and other things, will make you wanna tear your hair out. My Bold right now is slow, some apps frequently run out of memory and shut down and browsing royally sucks (and I'm being very generous on that one).

Device build-quality is a massive hit-and-miss. I've had to exchange my Bold 4 times before I got one that has few build defects. Wait till you need to update an app through the BB App World - another hair tearing experience.

Some common apps (like the Facebook app) run much better on the iPhone compared to the BB; it seems very buggy and glitchy on mine. The same games (in Canada at least) cost more for the BB compared to the iPhone/iPod Touch version (an example is Monopoly; $2.99 for iPhone version, $7.45 for the BB version - and to make matters worse, it runs better and smoother on the iPhone).

I can go on and on, and I'm so fed up with my Bold now that I cannot wait for the next iPhone to come out; I'd throwing this baby out so fast it's not funny.

Best of luck in the switch, hope you have a better BB experience than I did.

 

[anjinha]

Since when did people enjoy ads? You might get that one ad that makes you laugh but after you've seen it once so what. iAds will be a mass sell out to global corporations who's creativeness in the form of Ads is low at best. Do you really want to endure GE or P&G ads???

Did you even read his post? He didn't say ads were good, he said that iAds doesn't mean we'll have more ads, and it doesn't.

1. Apps already have ads. It's not like they weren't allowed before. Whether apps have ads or not is up to the developers and iAds doesn't change that.
2. iAds doesn't make it easier to put ads in apps (it's already incredibly easy), it just makes the ads better since they won't take you out of your app when you click on them like the current ads do.

Now can we please be rational an stop acting like we're going to have ads popping up everywhere on the iPhone?

 

[gangst]

I hope the OP is happy with his decision. There are some benefits to having a BB (namely a quality KB, BBM, generally less data usage and decent battery life).

But I think you might be disappointed sooner rather than later with the Bold. I have the Bold and previously had two other BBs, been a BB user for 4+ years and there are some serious drawbacks to a BB compared to the iPhone (seen them firsthand having used both).

The Bold may appear fast initially but it will slow down to a crawl over time. Memory constraints and other things, will make you wanna tear your hair out. My Bold right now is slow, some apps frequently run out of memory and shut down and browsing royally sucks (and I'm being very generous on that one).

Device build-quality is a massive hit-and-miss. I've had to exchange my Bold 4 times before I got one that has few build defects. Wait till you need to update an app through the BB App World - another hair tearing experience.

Some common apps (like the Facebook app) run much better on the iPhone compared to the BB; it seems very buggy and glitchy on mine. The same games (in Canada at least) cost more for the BB compared to the iPhone/iPod Touch version (an example is Monopoly; $2.99 for iPhone version, $7.45 for the BB version - and to make matters worse, it runs better and smoother on the iPhone).

I can go on and on, and I'm so fed up with my Bold now that I cannot wait for the next iPhone to come out; I'd throwing this baby out so fast it's not funny.

Best of luck in the switch, hope you have a better BB experience than I did.

Yea it's going well. BBM is excellent as the majority of my friends have it. Facebook is rubbish, but I barely use FB anyway. The Bloomberg App is better, web browser not as good, google maps fine, dosument editing tools are world's apart from anything on iPhone helped a lot by keyboard, email and alert functionality much better probably best on any mobile device I've had. Camera much better, especially in low light, helped by flash.
The only app I miss is 'Shareprice' which offers live streaming of LSE prices, but I emailed the developer before swapping and the app is on it's way to BB so happy days. FT app coming to BlackBerry, but not too fussed as the mobile site is free and has all the same articles.

BlackBerry feels more like a 'smartphone' i.e. can do more things, closer to a fully fledged computer. All in all I'm happy with the swap, the BlackBerry is for me, much more 'social' and fits my image much better.

 

[damnyooneek]

if you use mostly email, instant messaging, and phone calls the bb is really good at it. battery life holds up really well too. basically its a really good communication device. the iphone will help you waste time with apps but as a communication device its not as good.

 

[gangst]

if you use mostly email, instant messaging, and phone calls the bb is really good at it. battery life holds up really well too. basically its a really good communication device. the iphone will help you waste time with apps but as a communication device its not as good.

Agreed. I still have iPod Touch though