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Flight Plan

macrumors 6502a
May 26, 2014
846
788
Southeastern US
California native and I've lived all over the US. The jealously toward California is hilarious. I don't blame people, since this is one of the best states to live.

Also, please don't come here. California is awesome without you.

In my case, it is not jealousy. California is an economic hellhole, and people (and companies) are migrating to warmer economic climates.

At this rate, California will need to declare bankruptcy within 10 years. I ask you, will California ask all Americans to pay for California's fiscal foolishness through higher taxes to support a bailout for California? I think you will, because California, California's Politicians, and the voters who elect them are fiscally inept and electorally weak of character. Or so it seems to anybody who can read a financial statement and see lopsided balance sheet for what it is.

So the mass-migration continues. And California's weak-kneed voters begin to flee to other states with low/no state taxes, bringing their fiscal ineptitude and voting habits with them.

I love California. I just fear what California is doing to itself, America, and the world, and I wish daily for somebody of real character to lead California away from the edge of financial and economic disaster.

As for the "law", why does it need to be a law? If it's a good idea, others will follow Apple's lead to implement it. Unless they fear a lawsuit from Apple. But that would be just crazy, like suing samsung for a shape or a sliding unlock graphic. Right?
 

dannyyankou

macrumors G5
Mar 2, 2012
13,014
27,997
Westchester, NY
I'm amazed that there are already so many sarcastic responses to this news article less than two minutes after it was posted. There is absolutely no way on Earth that this was properly read in time to make those types of reactions.

Why, oh why, must everyone complain and whine about everything, especially without even fully understanding what he/she is complaining about? :rolleyes:

Any story with the word "law" in it is an immediate trigger for a sarcastic response.
 

donnaw

macrumors 65816
Apr 19, 2011
1,134
6
Austin TX
People worried about phones being killed by government officials would do well to read the text of the bill.

"The bill would authorize an authorized user to affirmatively elect to disable or opt-out of the technological solution at any time."

If you don't want this protection from theft, you simply turn off the feature.

As it goes if the government wanted to stop you communicating they don't need this bill to do it.

Some people will never read the text of a bill/law. They simply enjoy their knee-jerk reaction of 'NO, we don't need government regulation'. They have some sort of utopian idea that 'the market will handle it' or 'the government is taking away our freedoms'. They have no knowledge of history where we have already been down that road (see 'robber barons'). They don't realize all the regulations that they actually rely on each and every day and how life would be without them.

I'm not always in favor of more regulations. But at least I read the bills/laws before I pass judgement. There are simply some things that should be regulated. In this case I see no down side other than screwups when selling a phone (which some iPhone users have already encountered).

Sadly this seems to be an outcome from the 'information age'. Some people seem incapable of processing complete information.
 

xero9

macrumors 6502a
Nov 7, 2006
863
486
This thread has reinforced everything I ever thought of the people of California. Congratulations!
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,390
19,458
yeah sounds like SF.

in LA it's really not too bad.
i avoid rush hours during weekdays and usually it's not jammed.
When you can still hit a traffic jam at midnight, yeah, that's pretty jammed. (And, yes, I've hit those on at least a few occasions, and that's out of only a few more occasions that I've driven in/through LA, making the ratio rather high.)

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This thread has reinforced everything I ever thought of the people of California. Congratulations!
Or perhaps more evidently of those who don't live in California.
 

age234

macrumors 6502
Jun 28, 2004
376
0
A lot of people here sure are against legislation that is meant to help consumers...

I don't see the big deal.

Well, of course. I can think of a thousand things that could be meant to help people that in fact does the opposite. The government and other powers that be can and do misuse seemingly good things to their own ends, and anyone who does not see this is blind indeed.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, in other words.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,390
19,458
People worried about phones being killed by government officials would do well to read the text of the bill.

"The bill would authorize an authorized user to affirmatively elect to disable or opt-out of the technological solution at any time."

If you don't want this protection from theft, you simply turn off the feature.

As it goes if the government wanted to stop you communicating they don't need this bill to do it.
But if people actually read and comprehended what they read we couldn't have page after page of irrelevant threads about all kinds of things that aren't actually relevant to the article and the topic at hand.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,390
19,458
Well, of course. I can think of a thousand things that could be meant to help people that in fact does the opposite. The government and other powers that be can and do misuse seemingly good things to their own ends, and anyone who does not see this is blind indeed.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, in other words.
And what are those in this case specifically again?
 

age234

macrumors 6502
Jun 28, 2004
376
0
"California has just put smartphone thieves on notice," said Senator Leno, D-San Francisco.

Oh wow. I can sleep well knowing that California has stopped crime by passing a regulation.
 

Armen

macrumors 604
Apr 30, 2013
7,405
2,274
Los Angeles
Earthquakes up, dude!

You know what I find funny?

The majority of earthquakes in California cause minimal damage. It takes a 5.0 strength quake to break some glass and make items fall off shelves. Anything around a 6.0 may do damage to older buildings who haven't been retrofitted.

I will take those living conditions over having a Flood or Tornado completely destroy my house every year only to rebuild it again to be destroyed the following year or be up to my neck in blizzard with no power and stranded.
 

Synchromesh

macrumors 6502a
Jul 15, 2009
619
121
SF
This is amazing. I moved here about a year ago from a hell hole named Taxachusetts. Would I move back there anytime soon? No, and you can't make me. East Coast is a cold place with annoying sarcastic pathetic people. In MA they call themselves Ma$$holes. In NY they call themselves New Yorkers. I lived on the East Coast for over 20 years so yes, I know what I'm talking about. The state of Taxachusetts is much worse than CA in most respects. They're just a sad greedy pathetic bunch. They have horrible weather, horrible roads and horrible drivers. Just for starters.

Now, Cali isn't perfect either but they have a lot going for them. If you don't want to come here please by all means don't come. Stay in your Texas (or Alabama or wherever else you come from). We won't miss you here, I promise. But to make you feel better: there are TONS of people here from East Coast and Midwest. And yet in my 20 years on the East Coast I can maybe name 2-3 that moved there from California. I wonder why this is.

But back on topic - this law still won't solve everything as people will find workarounds. On top of that many smartphones are stolen for parts. But at least it'll curb it down a little. And that's a good thing.
 

76ShovelHead

macrumors 6502a
May 30, 2010
527
32
Florida
Such smartphones featuring iCloud Activation-type locks will still be sold on eBay for a moderate price or shipped to china for "un-locking" via replacing the key components on a still very capable device to then be resold for a decent price.
 

shoulin333

macrumors 6502a
Jun 26, 2007
700
21
California
They need to have some justification for having one of the highest tax burdens in the US.

With each new law like this there is actually extra "new" money spent, so this doesn't justify anything. The way state government's work is that if there is any money left over from anything they have to waste it quick by buying things like new chairs, desks, computers, etc even if they don't need the crap. If they don't spend all of their federal grant money each year they won't get the full amount next year. It is a horrible system but it is the way it is. Not saying I like it.

Anyone who thinks that the state has the money to do this, or that is fooling themselves. Each new idea/law requires "new" money. The only way around this is to charge fees to the companies submitting for certification. If they do this then you can be sure those companies will pass the cost directly onto the consumer.
 

rictus007

macrumors 6502
Oct 12, 2011
423
1,106
I though everybody will be happy with a law like this one, were I live thief are more interested on your phone than your wallet (maybe that's better, no?)

BTW, what's wrong with California? Comparing with other states, I considered it was ok. And you are free to live in whatever state you like, so we should respect other people's opinion.
 

phpmaven

macrumors 68040
Jun 12, 2009
3,466
522
San Clemente, CA USA
IF I was an auto executive I would remove all of my products from California.

I would encourage all other auto manufacturers to do the same.

Why do all US customers have to pay for the extra California emission tests and burdensome regulations?

Let them live like Castro's Cuba without new cars.

Toyota is moving it's HQ from California currently.

California wants clean energy - let them create their own energy --- they import 50% from out of state.

California is a disaster of the first degree - sure they have tech companies, but they rely upon the resources of other states.

The State House and Legislature is slipping towards Gomorrah faster than ever could have been imagined a decade ago.

I do not travel to California - my money is better spent elsewhere.

Why is the iTunes Store located in Nevada? So California cannot tax it excessively.

Once California fails from it's idiotic progressive/socialist/communist leaders, perhaps there will be a hope for it's future.

It will fail, dramatically, first.

Wow! Don't hold back on us now. :p
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,390
19,458
I though everybody will be happy with a law like this one, were I live thief are more interested on your phone than your wallet (maybe that's better, no?)

BTW, what's wrong with California? Comparing with other states, I considered it was ok. And you are free to live in whatever state you like, so we should respect other people's opinion.
Nothing wrong with any of it really. People just like to make random anonymous internet postings about nothing really.
 

WorldTravelBro

macrumors member
Nov 29, 2012
94
2
They can easily sell some of the important parts of the phone. This wont stop any theft at all. They will just need to steal two phones instead of one to make the same profit. :)
 

WardC

macrumors 68030
Oct 17, 2007
2,727
215
Fort Worth, TX
I was thinking of something...like this!!

killswitch.jpg
 

Jimmy James

macrumors 603
Oct 26, 2008
5,488
4,067
Magicland
In related news California legislates mandatory alarms with kill switched in homes. Once an intruder triggers the alarm it signals for the release of toxic vapours in 30 seconds, thereby eliminating most large-scale thefts.
 
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