Not a government mandate on this feature. Its too much government. There is too much else to be working on right now that is far more important than this.
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California Law Now Requires All Smartphones to Have Built-In Kill Switches By July 2015
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Not a government mandate on this feature. Its too much government. There is too much else to be working on right now that is far more important than this.
The government would be mandating that the manufacturers put that in themselves. There are always more important things going on everywhere, doesn't mean that smaller things should be ignored.
Yeah.. this whole notion of people piling up on California is lunacy. Whatever happened to state's rights? I believe these are the same people who flaunt the constitution at every excuse while acting completely opposite to what they preach.
California is a progressive state. Like it or leave it. It's that culture that nurtures great technology,art and entertainment and draws innovative and brilliant people like a magnet. You hate it? Then you don't belong there. Get over it~!
It pays more in taxes than what it gets from the Federal government which in turn is probably going to the states of the very same people who are against California. How about paying back every dime you got from California before piling up on it?
It has its issues just like any other state.
So give it a freaking break!
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i think you should re-read what my original point was which is why i am focusing on Find my iPhone and ignoring the activation lock / kill switch issue.. the kill switch is irrelevant to the overall problem that needs to be addressed. go re-read my original post that you replied to, then report back and we can discuss
This is true. On the other hand I feel even this could worked around. A very, very tiny circuit attached to the screen (buried in the wires, maybe) that responds only to two alphanumeric codes in a row generated by an algorythm that only AAPL has access to. It could render the screen unusuable until a registration key is sent to it.
...Alternatively they could make it so any screen sold as part of an iPhone doesn't work with any phone other than the one it ships with. >_>
I read your original post, and law enforcement doing anything after the phone is stolen becomes irrelevant if you can prevent the phone being stolen in the first place....It's quite simple. Less phones stolen = more resources available to deal with the stolen ones.
You only seem concerned with actions after the theft, surely you would prefer your phone not to be stolen in the first place?
Since Apple introduced activation lock with ios7 there has been a 20-40% drop in iphone thefts, that's a lot of people who a) don't have to go through the unpleasantness of a street robbery and b) don't have to go through the hassle of getting their phone back
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Would it not be better to prevent the theft in the first place?
What?
The state can barely fix the pot holes in our streets. You really think they can really shut down all phones systematically?
You're funny, what does communication depend on? RIGHT! The network!
They could achieve the same via restricting or shutting off the network.
Glassed Silver:mac
And yet its GDP is pretty stagnant, and it has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country.
While Texas is running up on its heels, as California bleeds employers.
Yeah, life in TX is great. If you have a good job, can afford health insurance, don't have kids with special needs, or really any issue where you just might need a bit of help from society. And if you love the 'good ole boy, Aggie network' running the state government and having the governor use his tax-funded slush fund to give out political favors with no accountability then it's paradise.
But if you are unemployed, underemployed (a rather big problem here), can't afford insurance, are a single mother, a poor woman, or not a so-called 'Christian' and happen to believe in science it's not so great.
I was born and raised in TX. Lived here for 63 years and I'm usually proud to be a Texan. But recently the far right has taken over and I'm tired of my great state being the laughing-stock of the nation. And I'm really sick and tired of some of our elected officials simple lack of respect.
A health economy and good environment for business is great. But not when it comes at such a high price on the really needy. CA might go too far one way, but believe me TX goes too far the other.
What exactly is "too much government"? Too often that phrase is thrown around at every government policy indiscriminately. Too much government is the NSA reading your emails.
I wasn't born in Texas, but I was raised there (Don't live there now, because the weather sucks). And you're correct that there is an element of politician there who have taken advantage of an opportunity to pull the state a little too far to the right on certain issues. But the fact of the matter is that the social ills you point out in Texas are the same ones you see in more liberal states. But in those states more money is being siphoned off of the working middle class to fund ineffective social programs.
And I wouldn't worry too much about being the "laughing stock" of the rest of the country. All you have to do to feel better about that is look at who is laughing...
What kind of employers? That's the question.
Mark Zuckerberg from NY starts his company in California not Texas.
Founders of Drop box from MA, start their company in California not Texas and so on and on.....
What would you call these? Reverse bleed?
While Texas has its share of Intel or Dell, just low or zero taxes alone is not enough to lure employers. Its the people,their educational level, Institutions(academic and arts) that make the difference.
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Nailed it!
uhm no, i feel no safer with this law passed, in fact i feel less safe... phones will still be stolen. People will be hurt.
What usually happens to someone who is mugged when the thief discovers their victim has nothing of value?
Thank California, now instead of just losing my $100 cell phone (that could be replaced possibly with insurance), I am badly beaten with huge hospital bills (some of which MIGHT be covered by insurance).
And yes this story comes from experience, my Brother was mugged a few years back (prior to activation lock), and the left him beaten in a gutter because he left his phone at home and had nothing of value.
This has already been out in real life for about a year when it comes to iOS devices...we've sure seen a lot of what you are describing going on suddenly, right? Unfortunately, things like that will always happen because criminals are, well, outside of the normal human society, and therefore some of them will resort to all kinds of things no matter what they want or get, or even if they don't want anything. This really doesn't make it more or less likely realistically speaking, but it does make the more typical criminal that doesn't want the extra hassle to perhaps avoid that hassle at least to some degree.
Since activation lock has come out, iphone theft rates have plummeted especially in cities like New York where it used to be common, like "Apple Picking" in New York City.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...gnificantly-reducing-thefts-of-apple-products
This fear of yours just hasn't materialized, it's made everything a lot safer actually.
I'm against legislation in general. The less the government interferes with our daily lives the better.
Clearly this is interference. What a horrible thing having something like Activation Lock has been.
"ll you have to do to feel better about that is look at who is laughing..."
Lol, you're right there. I just get frustrated sometimes. Need to spend more time here and skip the news sites. Many amusing posts on MR.
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Really? What about the laws against murder? Or theft? Or the regs concerning food safety? Or the regs that require that gas pumps be certified that they actually five out a full gallon rather than 9/10th. Each of those is 'government interference'. Perhaps you should put a bit more thought into exactly what a bill does or doesn't do. Don't be lazy about it.
There's good legislation and there's bad. That's what we 'hire' our legislators to do, pass good laws. If you don't like them you can contact your rep and voice your concerns. And most of all, vote.
Except generally legislation is what makes big corporations get off their asses to try and help consumers to begin with. Not always, but generally.