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Call for a Greener iPhone
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That seems to be a bit of a double-standard on your part. As far as I'm concerned, the "rule-breaking" post lashed out at a guy that didn't just "make a good point badly," but broke the same rule as bigmc6000. Seriously, some jerk calls us all retarded 14-year-old republicans and you say what you did to xenotaku, and then you warn someone that disagrees with him that he might be breaking forum rules? What's the difference? bigmc6000 went after one specific guy and xenotaku went after "most forum users?" That sounds worse, to me.
This whole thing reminds me of "Thank You For Smoking. GreenPeace is just an organization like the Anti-Smoking People. They'll do anything and say anything to get things they want done, whether or not they are right. I am just as insulted by their propaganda as I am by Apple's BS.
Iuups, nop I tried to watch it in the iPhone but it didnt work, then went to the computer and watch it, too lazy to correct the post hehe.
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Hello gPhone! Green Peace Special Edition.
The "green" iPhone for the rest of... them.
70% Organic Construction It's alive! You could eat it but then you wouldn't have a phone.
"Solar Powered" iBonsai Tree That's right, built-in tree provides all the juice you need* Subject to sunlight availability.
Renewable Resource Done with your gPhone? Don't throw it away, plant it and watch it grow into a beautiful tree for the whole family to hug for generations to come.
gTunes Not ordinary music, rather natural sounds...no downloads required!
Al Gore Approved! The only Inconvenient Truth here is squirrels want to live in your phone.
iFootPrint Holds up to 10,000 Carbon Credits you can use for guilt-free living amongst those capitalist pigs that have regular iPhones.
...and more!
Hug a gPhone today!
The "green" iPhone for the rest of... them.
70% Organic Construction It's alive! You could eat it but then you wouldn't have a phone.
"Solar Powered" iBonsai Tree That's right, built-in tree provides all the juice you need* Subject to sunlight availability.
Renewable Resource Done with your gPhone? Don't throw it away, plant it and watch it grow into a beautiful tree for the whole family to hug for generations to come.
gTunes Not ordinary music, rather natural sounds...no downloads required!
Al Gore Approved! The only Inconvenient Truth here is squirrels want to live in your phone.
iFootPrint Holds up to 10,000 Carbon Credits you can use for guilt-free living amongst those capitalist pigs that have regular iPhones.
...and more!
Hug a gPhone today!
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Hello gPhone! Green Peace Special Edition.
The "green" iPhone for the rest of... them.
70% Organic Construction It's alive! You could eat it but then you wouldn't have a phone.
"Solar Powered" iBonsai Tree That's right, built-in tree provides all the juice you need* Subject to sunlight availability.
Renewable Resource Done with your gPhone? Don't throw it away, plant it and watch it grow into a beautiful tree for the whole family to hug for generations to come.
gTunes Not ordinary music, rather natural sounds...no downloads required!
Al Gore Approved! The only Inconvenient Truth here is squirrels want to live in your phone.
iFootPrint Holds up to 10,000 Carbon Credits you can use for guilt-free living amongst those capitalist pigs that have regular iPhones.
...and more!
Hug a gPhone today!
Yes, but is it unlockable?
Only during late Fall & Winter months. In Spring-time, it re-locks itself when the leaves come in.Yes, but is it unlockable?
Oh, also see a third-party belt holster is already available for the gPhone....
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There's nothing wrong with pushing an innovator like Apple to innovate on the environmental front as well. Apple's high profit margins should enable it to expend resources on finding more environmentally friendly materials for its products, and develop better packaging designs. I was shocked at how much styrofoam came with my iMac!
That said, Greenpeace often seems more interested in antagonizing Apple and other firms than actually sitting down and assisting with pragmatic solutions. (One wonders why "peace" is part of their name at all.) For that reason it's quietly effective groups like the Nature Conservancy that will continue to receive my contributions.
That said, Greenpeace often seems more interested in antagonizing Apple and other firms than actually sitting down and assisting with pragmatic solutions. (One wonders why "peace" is part of their name at all.) For that reason it's quietly effective groups like the Nature Conservancy that will continue to receive my contributions.
Apple should be in the forefront of environmentally-friendly design. They have Gore on the board, they trade on the name of a fruit, they claim to "think different". There is no reason on earth that they should use more toxins than absolutely necessary.
And Greenpeace do an extremely valuable job.
And Greenpeace do an extremely valuable job.
By your logic only engineers with specific solutions in hand would be allowed to complain about pollution.
"Hey, your coal burning plant is spewing out mercury and acid."
"You got a fix for that?"
"No."
"Sorry, were you saying something?"
Your cliche about whiners without solutions may have some relevance in the workplace, where the person in question is complaining about something that is related to their job. It doesn't apply in matters of public discourse. Voices must be raised and heard in order to encourage those with the approriate skills to work on solutions and to put pressure on those who profit from harmful practices.
I suspect most of the whiners on here complaining about Green Peace attacking Apple are just worried about the values of their stock portfolios.
whoa there kiddy.
Are you serious? You obviously didn't even read the PDF that Arn linked to.
I had no idea how hypocritical people can be here. (I should have known, I know!) Such hatred for an organization that may say things that are out of line (see above for a good example of that). It's pretty embarrassing to read such silly responses to an interesting environmental report on the iPhone. It's really not even that bad of a report. The next time you need to spew some hatred for GP, go outside and take a few deep breaths in. After the smog fills your lungs a few times you may change your tune.
Are you serious? You obviously didn't even read the PDF that Arn linked to.
I had no idea how hypocritical people can be here. (I should have known, I know!) Such hatred for an organization that may say things that are out of line (see above for a good example of that). It's pretty embarrassing to read such silly responses to an interesting environmental report on the iPhone. It's really not even that bad of a report. The next time you need to spew some hatred for GP, go outside and take a few deep breaths in. After the smog fills your lungs a few times you may change your tune.
...Not another iPhone Lawsuit!
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79883
thanks greenpeace for making this lawsuit happen.
We taxpayers love investing in this country so we could put up with this crap.
sigh....nuff said.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79883
thanks greenpeace for making this lawsuit happen
.We taxpayers love investing in this country so we could put up with this crap.
sigh....nuff said.
I'm an environmentalist, but I think Greenpeace goes too far. In fact, I refuse to support Greenpeace because I think they're bordering on a terrorist organization. They've done some shady things before.
When Greenpeace tries to get attention with stuff like this, I just ignore them. Sure, I would love to see Apple make everything environmentally friendly. However, if the iPhone was made of paper the nut jobs at Greenpeace would claim it's not environmentally friendly because it wastes trees. Use plastic, and you're consuming oil. Make it a holographic projection like on Star Trek, and you're wasting energy. Make it out of air, and you're consuming oxygen and contributing to global warming.
As many others have said, Greenpeace can go firk itself. Greenpeace should call itself Greenwar since that's essentially what they do to get their message across.
When Greenpeace tries to get attention with stuff like this, I just ignore them. Sure, I would love to see Apple make everything environmentally friendly. However, if the iPhone was made of paper the nut jobs at Greenpeace would claim it's not environmentally friendly because it wastes trees. Use plastic, and you're consuming oil. Make it a holographic projection like on Star Trek, and you're wasting energy. Make it out of air, and you're consuming oxygen and contributing to global warming.
As many others have said, Greenpeace can go firk itself. Greenpeace should call itself Greenwar since that's essentially what they do to get their message across.
First of all, I think most of the venting against Greenpeace IN THIS INSTANCE is a bit unwarranted. Yes, they were dishonest, opportunistic idiots regarding the previous anti-Apple propaganda campaign. However, in this case, they do have a point that, unlike Nokia, Apple is using SOME toxic materials in the iPhone.
Having said that, I also must point out that Apple has already announced that they are phasing out these materials and given a rough timeline. So all the hand wringing about how "Apple doesn't care about the environment" is pretty unwarranted. Yes, I'm sure everyone, including Apple, would prefer everything was 100% green yesterday. Well, guess what? IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT IN THE REAL WORLD!
Nokia was well on it way to being 100% green long before Apple decided to get into the phone business. OF COURSE Nokia is ahead of Apple in this matter. Give the whining a rest. It's getting old.
Ignoring all the childish name-calling, I will agree with you that GP uses inappropriate methods. However, I totally disagree that this helps their cause. If anything, it hurts the entire environmental cause.
How? Well, first of all, it gives ammunition to the "burn the trees, we don't care about the environment" side. Even worse thought, is that their antics turn off the moderate majority to the message GP should be trying to get out.
I've been concerned about the environment and have tried to do my best to follow the 3 Rs long before "being green" became the hip, politically correct thing to do. To me, Greenpeace rates just above the idiots who raid animal research centers or burn SUVs. I look at their antics and can only conclude that they care more about getting attention and collecting money than actually doing something to help the environment.
Btw, when did it become "fact" that Republicans hate the environment and Democrats love it? I know many "right-wingers" who genuinely care and do their part, and I also know "liberals" who talk the game but drive gas-guzzling SUVs/luxury cars and collect (and throw away, as in, throw in the trash) consumer electronics/batteries like crazy. Concern for the environment is and should be a non-political issue.
I suppose I should be glad that no one's tried to work iPhone hacking into this argument
Having said that, I also must point out that Apple has already announced that they are phasing out these materials and given a rough timeline. So all the hand wringing about how "Apple doesn't care about the environment" is pretty unwarranted. Yes, I'm sure everyone, including Apple, would prefer everything was 100% green yesterday. Well, guess what? IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT IN THE REAL WORLD!
Nokia was well on it way to being 100% green long before Apple decided to get into the phone business. OF COURSE Nokia is ahead of Apple in this matter. Give the whining a rest. It's getting old.
Ignoring all the childish name-calling, I will agree with you that GP uses inappropriate methods. However, I totally disagree that this helps their cause. If anything, it hurts the entire environmental cause.
How? Well, first of all, it gives ammunition to the "burn the trees, we don't care about the environment" side. Even worse thought, is that their antics turn off the moderate majority to the message GP should be trying to get out.
I've been concerned about the environment and have tried to do my best to follow the 3 Rs long before "being green" became the hip, politically correct thing to do. To me, Greenpeace rates just above the idiots who raid animal research centers or burn SUVs. I look at their antics and can only conclude that they care more about getting attention and collecting money than actually doing something to help the environment.
Btw, when did it become "fact" that Republicans hate the environment and Democrats love it? I know many "right-wingers" who genuinely care and do their part, and I also know "liberals" who talk the game but drive gas-guzzling SUVs/luxury cars and collect (and throw away, as in, throw in the trash) consumer electronics/batteries like crazy. Concern for the environment is and should be a non-political issue.
I suppose I should be glad that no one's tried to work iPhone hacking into this argument
It is unfortunate that the iPhone contains "toxic chemicals" but I am certain that Steve Jobs and Apple will address the situation. We can only hope that the next installment of the iPhone will be a greener one. For Apples sake.
Prof.
I love Apple.
Prof.
I love Apple.
couldn't this project potentially jack up the price of the iPhone? I don't really see what else there is to lose as an apple customer............