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The Safari icon to me looks like it's obviously missing the ticks that were previously there and the needle looks like it's grey to me. It MAYBE is a result of a poor camera screwing up the colours as a result of it being inside the blue circle, but to me I just don't think it looks that way. I made a mock up of what the icon looks like to me and I personally think it looks much better even though I don't think the icon is ugly to begin with.

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I still say the white background looks like they forgot that there is no transparancy in app icons. it just doesn't look Apple like!
 
You are looking at a simulated, blurry, off-angle image of something that might not even be true. So, even if the simulated, blurry, and/or off-angle part doesn't account for it (which it easily can), it can actually really be anything and still not mean anything really.
 
You are looking at a simulated, blurry, off-angle image of something that might not even be true. So, even if the simulated, blurry, and/or off-angle part doesn't account for it (which it easily can), it can actually really be anything and still not mean anything really.

Oh believe me, I know that, I just happen to think what I'm seeing in the blurry, off-angle, crappy image looks better than the original icon.
 
Oh believe me, I know that, I just happen to think what I'm seeing in the blurry, off-angle, crappy image looks better than the original icon.
Perhaps, but then again a lot of Safari images would look better than the one in iOS 7 betas so far. ;-)
 
Perhaps, but then again a lot of Safari images would look better than the one in iOS 7 betas so far. ;-)

I really do not think the original icon is bad at all. I think most of the redesigned ones look strange and stick completely out of place in iOS 7.

In fact, the only iOS 7 app icons I dislike are iTunes because the gradient just looks... wrong, and Calculator because I feel like it should have a gradient and it doesn't.
 
I really do not think the original icon is bad at all. I think most of the redesigned ones look strange and stick completely out of place in iOS 7.

In fact, the only iOS 7 app icons I dislike are iTunes because the gradient just looks... wrong, and Calculator because I feel like it should have a gradient and it doesn't.
Well it's certainly a subjective thing. I think based on various threads and polls (here and other places) Safari and Settings icons were at or close to the top few most disliked. There are certainly a number of thers that are inconsistent in design, like those you mentioned, or Game Center with some gloss/3D type of effects left over.
 
You're right man, looks like it went from red to gray.
I've looked at other pictures and it really looks like they changed it or it's not iOS 7
 
Well it's certainly a subjective thing. I think based on various threads and polls (here and other places) Safari and Settings icons were at or close to the top few most disliked. There are certainly a number of thers that are inconsistent in design, like those you mentioned, or Game Center with some gloss/3D type of effects left over.


Settings grew on me though I did find it almost... dangerous looking, at first. I think people really need to see these icons on the devices. Most of the people complaining don't actually have access to the beta, you know?

I think Apple consciously made a choice to not make all the icons perfectly uniform and consistent. Think about it this way. Microsoft does that with Windows Phone, but the instant you install a 3rd party app it sticks out like a massive sore thumb. The more uniform the pre-installed apps look, the less room app developers have to play with and the greater the chance their icon will look awful on the home screen.

If every single icon was a uniform gradient colour with a white symbol on it, every single third party app would have to be like that to look uniform and you'd wind up with way too many app icons that look way too similar, either that, or app developers would just ignore the visual style and you'd have a whole other problem. Lots of icons that look clean and simple and then suddenly the one with a game character on the front (or whatever.)


You're right man, looks like it went from red to gray.
I've looked at other pictures and it really looks like they changed it or it's not iOS 7

I do think the blues look different as well.
 
Settings grew on me though I did find it almost... dangerous looking, at first. I think people really need to see these icons on the devices. Most of the people complaining don't actually have access to the beta, you know?

I think Apple consciously made a choice to not make all the icons perfectly uniform and consistent. Think about it this way. Microsoft does that with Windows Phone, but the instant you install a 3rd party app it sticks out like a massive sore thumb. The more uniform the pre-installed apps look, the less room app developers have to play with and the greater the chance their icon will look awful on the home screen.

If every single icon was a uniform gradient colour with a white symbol on it, every single third party app would have to be like that to look uniform and you'd wind up with way too many app icons that look way too similar, either that, or app developers would just ignore the visual style and you'd have a whole other problem. Lots of icons that look clean and simple and then suddenly the one with a game character on the front (or whatever.)




I do think the blues look different as well.


I like it that way it is :)
 
I like your version better, without the ticks. Safari was one of the icons I disliked most, besides the settings, which just looks far too busy with the tiny cogwheel teeth, iTunes and mail with their extremely plain gradients and so on, but like someone else stated - I don't have access to the beta and haven't seen it "live" so I'm keeping my hopes up that serveral people were right and it does look better in real.

Edit: btw, I think the blue 5C looks great.
 
Thats not the only one!

If you look really closely into the safari icon, you can clearly see that it's like what the OP said, the second half of the needle is gray, certainly not red.

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It still looks like the needle is red to me. I can't see any tick marks, but they would be hard to see from that photo anyway. I'm thinking it's the same icon.
 
if this is a legit photo of actual apple product...

Keep in mind, this is a printed overlay, for packaging purposes, to simulate what ios 7 looks like on the phone...it was likely to have been printed months ago while the icons were still undergoing changes...it does take time to print such things, these are not like electronic images, go to the web today, it's orange, tomorrow it's red...printing in large quantities is scheduled, can take weeks, even months to go from submitted design to actual printed product from that design. These things aren't just printed on the fly, they are printed in advance, and in large quantities to keep costs down, then added to the product after the product is made. (I've worked in the printing business.)

So, what I am saying is that whatever we think we see here, it is not necessarily going to be in iOS 7 this way, as this was printed ahead of time.
 
My guess is that the artwork was done before they changed the coloring on the icons after the first couple betas. The blues and shadows are more intense than on the current build. The photos are not sharp enough to see the white markings, or they at one point have done away with them. (Its that way in all the "leak" pictures)

Its also interesting that the contacts app must be on page two...

EDIT - zoom into it with photoshop and you can clearly see the white tick marks, and the needle is red still.
 

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if this is a legit photo of actual apple product...

Keep in mind, this is a printed overlay, for packaging purposes, to simulate what ios 7 looks like on the phone...it was likely to have been printed months ago while the icons were still undergoing changes...it does take time to print such things, these are not like electronic images, go to the web today, it's orange, tomorrow it's red...printing in large quantities is scheduled, can take weeks, even months to go from submitted design to actual printed product from that design. These things aren't just printed on the fly, they are printed in advance, and in large quantities to keep costs down, then added to the product after the product is made. (I've worked in the printing business.)

So, what I am saying is that whatever we think we see here, it is not necessarily going to be in iOS 7 this way, as this was printed ahead of time.

Keep in mind that the icon has been the same for three months and it's possible they've changed it slightly for the public release. I don't think they'd print mockups only to change the icon to what it currently is.
 
Also, from these pics it looks like they removed:

- the red from the arrow on the compass icon.
- the yelow from the little dot on the camera icon
- the blue from the stocks icon
- the red from the clock icon

:rolleyes:
 
My guess is that the artwork was done before they changed the coloring on the icons after the first couple betas. The blues and shadows are more intense than on the current build. The photos are not sharp enough to see the white markings, or they at one point have done away with them. (Its that way in all the "leak" pictures)

Its also interesting that the contacts app must be on page two...

EDIT - zoom into it with photoshop and you can clearly see the white tick marks, and the needle is red still.

The needle doesn't look red to me at all. And I don't see any white tick marks either. If that white pixel haze is what you mean, that is also present on the mail icon and looks more like artifacts.


And while yes, it does look like the *tiny dots* of colour on the other icons are either missing or a different colour, the safari needle isn't that small and you can clearly see it in the photo.

And the red on the Safari icon is such a vibrant colour I'd really be surprised if the camera didn't pick it up.

I'm not saying this is definitely the case or anything.
 
Keep in mind that the icon has been the same for three months and it's possible they've changed it slightly for the public release. I don't think they'd print mockups only to change the icon to what it currently is.

I'm not saying they won't change it for GM...this could be what it may look like, but, I seriously doubt it.

The device pictured here is turned off, you do all realize this, right?

It's not a mockup. It's a plastic printed, removable overlay on top of the display, for packaging purposes only, to show "icons on the screen", it's just for looks, for when it's on the shelf in the store.
Also, from these pics it looks like they removed:

- the red from the arrow on the compass icon.
- the yelow from the little dot on the camera icon
- the blue from the stocks icon
- the red from the clock icon

:rolleyes:

There are 2 likely possibilities for this: 1) too much blurr/colors off in pic to really tell OR (more likely) 2) They simplified the icons for the printed overlay for any number of possible reasons, including, it's cheaper for packaging to print something that is representative of what the screen will look like on, but, not meant to be an exact match, just an impression. Bright colors are also difficult with printing, to get them right you'd have to use a more expensive printing process that uses more inks (similar to ink jet printers), so more solid bold colors will give a better impression of what it'd look like on screen. Also, it can be more work to get that little yellow dot in the right place on the camera icon, that retina-display thin blue line on stocks, and the red on compass & clock, not practical for fast, high-quantity, cheap printing. ...this is just something for packaging that will be thrown away, always done in a cost-effective manner, not made to such precision.

I seriously doubt this is anything other than tweaked for simple, cheap printing of the overlays, while making it bright & bold like iOS 7 on screen.
 
I'm not saying they won't change it for GM...this could be what it may look like, but, I seriously doubt it.

The device pictured here is turned off, you do all realize this, right?

It's not a mockup. It's a plastic printed, removable overlay on top of the display, for packaging purposes only, to show "icons on the screen", it's just for looks, for when it's on the shelf in the store.


There are 2 likely possibilities for this: 1) too much blurr/colors off in pic to really tell OR (more likely) 2) They simplified the icons for the printed overlay for any number of possible reasons, including, it's cheaper for packaging to print something that is representative of what the screen will look like on, but, not meant to be an exact match, just an impression. Bright colors are also difficult with printing, to get them right you'd have to use a more expensive printing process that uses more inks (similar to ink jet printers), so more solid bold colors will give a better impression of what it'd look like on screen. Also, it can be more work to get that little yellow dot in the right place on the camera icon, that retina-display thin blue line on stocks, and the red on compass, not practical for fast, high-quantity, cheap printing. ...this is just something for packaging that will be thrown away, always done in a cost-effective manner, not made to such precision.

I seriously doubt this is anything other than tweaked for simple, cheap printing of the overlays, while making it bright & bold like iOS 7 on screen.

Do you really think they would simply make the icons... wrong? That doesn't seem like an Apple thing to do, none of the icons differed aside from maybe looking slightly dimmer on the iPod Touch packaging with iOS 6.

Making the Safari icon needle grey would actually just be wrong. I mean, a different, less bright red would make perfect sense, but simply just the wrong colour...?
 
I think it's just a poor quality photo of a photo man... The needles are small, plus turn your iPhone at that angle. The needle visibility is significantly reduced for me, though not just sure if that's a consequence of the screen viewing angles or if this is applicable to a printed picture of the homescreen too. Everything is darker in that pic too, there is a lot more blue in all the icons. The red could easily wash out. As someone pointed out you can't see the red in the clock either - did they remove it there too? And look how muted the Reminders icon's dots are. They grey on Safari looks kinda pinkish to me too.
 
I kid you not, this is the colour that i colour-picked from the centre of the 'grey' safari bit.

Now, considering there is more blue in everything (see how the green message/phone icons are less yellow etc.), if we take that away... purple - blue = red...
 

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