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Anyone craving some watermelon right now?
 

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Wow superior and only real iPhone makes far better photos.
Realize SE is a crap phone and not a real apple product.

it’s a Tim Hollywood toy!
For a second, based on this ridiculous post, I thought I was on Reddit
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The iPhone 8 and SE photos make me want to vomit
Never Has a more ridiculously over the top comment made men laugh more and I used 4chan
 
Unless it’s a RAM issue, I’m guessing there is nothin stopping Apple from enabling Nightmode in a future iOS update when it’s no longer marketed as USP for the pro models?

(Maybe with the price / storage adjustment they usually do after a year or so to boost sales.)

Is it just a software thing or is there any hardware missing?
 
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I can vouch for 70s and 80s Instamatic shots being terrible. While they were colour, they were a step back from the cameras my family used in the 50s and 60s!

And I say that as someone who is using a high end Epson Perfection V850 Pro, scanning the negatives (the prints are even worse printed on textured paper).

Agree.

in the 40s, 50s and 1960s, cameras were out there that could take pictures that still blow away most of today’s common consumer DSLRs. They were only used by serious pros though. Pros and semi pros used 120 and 35mm cameras with VERY good optics... and in the hands of someone who knew what they were doing, still could exceed a modern iPhone in situations.

The 1970s, where our current cheap throwaway consumer culture really started, is when optics went from precision coated glass to plastic, quality control started to go away, film size decreased, etc...

pictures from the 70s-90s cheap cameras are garbage, which is why people think iphone pics are so comparatively great today.
 
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But it’s true, since most of the photos nowadays are taken with a phone, and a relevant percentage of those photos are taken with an iPhone.

I’m so tired of the silly comments like “if you care about photography you would use a DSLR” ... that’s simply false today.
I’m a non professional photographer and I’m using a Reflex since late ‘90, well before digital photography. And I have a DSLR.
But you are not taking your DSLR with its set of lens with you every day, while you are taking your phone with you every moment, so most of your photos are taken by a phone. I care about the quality of those photos.

Still the same today. Smartphones are today's "Instant Photography".

Instant Photography was never the same picture quality as 35mm Film.

As to not compromise, I took my film rolls to the 1 hr photo 2 blocks away, was the best way to not have to go with Polaroids, plus the free second set of prints made it easy to "share". ;)

Just go out and take more pictures - the best camera is the one that is with you...
 
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I think I might be "quality blind"
I almost see no difference, especially on those selfie pictures and the trees ones.
 
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SE looks a lot better then I thought but will probably look like junk in a year or two from now
Given that the design goes back to iPhone 6 I'd venture to say it's timeless.

I recently found a first gen iPod Touch in outstanding condition and was amazed at how good the hardware is. Then I dug up my iPhone 4s and was blown away again.

When Steve and Jony were on, they were ON.
 
I don't understand why I can only see the full res version of the images on the forum but not on the article.
 
Given that the design goes back to iPhone 6 I'd venture to say it's timeless.

I recently found a first gen iPod Touch in outstanding condition and was amazed at how good the hardware is. Then I dug up my iPhone 4s and was blown away again.

When Steve and Jony were on, they were ON.

Right now I‘m still using my old SE whose design is still basically the iPhone 4 design from 2010 and I still like the look of it even compared to modern phones.
 
The iPhone 8 struggles with highlights being blown out or overexposed in some situations
Well, it really doesn’t if you just tap the screen at the bright spot. It will then set the exposure (and focus) based on that. Move your finger up and down to adjust, hold for a while to lock focus and exposure.

Sometimes you might have a problem because it also focuses, but that watermelon picture could have been more or less just as nice on the iPhone 8.

(It amazes how lots of people don’t seem to know this. It’s so simple to get great exposures almost all the time. Of course it’s great that newer phones probably get it right automatically and they have better HDR, but still.)
 
I'm just gonna add to the chorus of people saying there's no meaningful difference between most of these photos.


Every phone since at least the 8 has produced great photos which will 100% equally bring back the memory of those moments just as vividly to your mind. Sure, if you zoom in you can see slight technical quality differences, but that's meaningless. The only thing that matters is how the picture makes you feel when you look at it, and for that purpose all three cameras are exactly as good.
 
Agree.

in the 40s, 50s and 1960s, cameras were out there that could take pictures that still blow away most of today’s common consumer DSLRs. They were only used by serious pros though. Pros and semi pros used 120 and 35mm cameras with VERY good optics... and in the hands of someone who knew what they were doing, still could exceed a modern iPhone in situations.

The 1970s, where our current cheap throwaway consumer culture really started, is when optics went from precision coated glass to plastic, quality control started to go away, film size decreased, etc...

pictures from the 70s-90s cheap cameras are garbage, which is why people think iphone pics are so comparatively great today.

Yeah exactly what I found! Luckily my family had moved to a much better 35mm camera in 1987, just the period from 1974 to 1987 where the Instamatic was used.
 
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Well, it really doesn’t if you just tap the screen at the bright spot. It will then set the exposure (and focus) based on that. Move your finger up and down to adjust, hold for a while to lock focus and exposure.

Sometimes you might have a problem because it also focuses, but that watermelon picture could have been more or less just as nice on the iPhone 8.

(It amazes how lots of people don’t seem to know this. It’s so simple to get great exposures almost all the time. Of course it’s great that newer phones probably get it right automatically and they have better HDR, but still.)


wow what a great post.

thank you!

i had no idea
 
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I upgraded from a 6S to a new SE so the camera is a nice upgrade. That said, I hadn't used the Portrait mode before but now I have and I can say with experience now (instead of just seeing everyone else's photos) that it's steaming garbage; I'm honestly surprised the feature passed QA.

I also find the camera app very convoluted these days. Seems like features have been tacked on and on over time without any consideration to redevelop the app from scratch. It's like Frankenstein's monster. What's the best alternative camera app?
 
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