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I'm delighted with the camera in my new iPhone 13 Pro and can see a discernible difference in quality over the iPhone 12 Pro. But for me it is far more than just the camera that motivates me to buy an iPhone over the iPhone copies. No other manufacturer offers the privacy and security of the iPhone, as well as the tight integration of hardware and software produced by the same manufacturer. Purchasing an iPhone over the crowd of second-rate phones is a no-brainer.
No way is 13 pro cam better than 12 pro cam
 
The problem with having taken this great concept photo on an iPhone is that it remains a concept photo. There's not much you can do with it in terms of printing or really enjoying it at large side.

I'm on an iPhone Pro Max 11 (don't think the improvements since then are significant) and I have to admit the convenience is fabulous. Pushing myself to shoot more with real cameras. It helps to have one small and light enough with a small lens to carry around one's neck. Always wear a camera as Overgaard insists.

No… it’s not a concept photograph. It’s a real photograph that can be printed, matted, and framed. And displayed in a gallery. As an aside, I cut my own mats and make my own frames.
 
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It looks to me it is blur caused by reviewer's head moving around too fast or his hand was not steady enough.
I don't think so, have a look at the clock on the wall behind him - on the Pixel you can see the minute lines clearly on the iPhone you can barely tell they are there.
 
No… it’s not a concept photograph. It’s a real photograph that can be printed, matted, and framed. And displayed in a gallery. As an aside, I cut my own mats and make my own frames.
What you posted here looks pretty grungy. I wouldn't want to waste my money printing this up to gallery size. Certainly wouldn't want to see it on a wall except at a very safe distance.
 
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What you posted here looks pretty grungy.

Thank you! I don't make pretty photographs.

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Nor would I since what I posted was 900 pixels across. Would you?
You're claiming gallery quality. Usually downsizing an image makes it sharper and better than it looks at full size. So if you've done a decent resizing to 900px and that's what you've got, the full size original image will be very grunge too.

If you'd taken that photo with a real camera and a good lens, it would be gallery material.

Mobile phones can take great photographs but only in bright conditions with ISO at minimum. Jury is out on night mode. I've seen a few very good images but most still look watercolour like.

Skin in particular is awful in mobile photos, with no texture and weird colours.
 
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You're claiming gallery quality. Usually downsizing an image makes it sharper and better than it looks at full size. So if you've done a decent resizing to 900px and that's what you've got, the full size original image will be very grunge too.

If you'd taken that photo with a real camera and a good lens, it would be gallery material.

Mobile phones can take great photographs but only in bright conditions with ISO at minimum. Jury is out on night mode. I've seen a few very good images but most still look watercolour like.

Skin in particular is awful in mobile photos, with no texture and weird colours.

Nope.

It's a compressed 900 pixel jpg. Perhaps you don't understand what the adverse consequences of highly compressed jpgs are.

Or may not know that iPhones are indeed real cameras.

So...what do you shoot?
 
Both cameras are excellent. And the complaints over the camera bump are just silly.
Yep. While cameras are important (to me with 2 little daughters) there’s much more to the iPhone I enjoy. The camera bump and notch are simply 2 things that I don’t even think about. Both serve quite functional roles
 
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the camera hw is becoming almost irrelevant as the sensors are all equally advanced now and most of the work is in processing.

And this is where Google cannot be beat - they are decades ahead of anyone else in ML/AI. Things like Night Sight, the auto corrections and scene detection in Photos etc are magic.

This amount of tech and its used to post selfies on instagram for other social media addicts. Its a waste.
 
They are both at the top, who makes a decision on just camera anyway. It’s android vs iOS ecosystem
 
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Can you do a video review of Sony's flagship $1800 phone with a 1 inch image sensor off their $1300 point and shoot camera?


This is sort of fake news, the Sony phone doesn't use the full area of the 1 inch sensor. Something like 66% of it.

It's not that much better than a high end phone basically. I'd rather just take my big camera with me if I really care about image quality.

There isn't enough of a jump between high end phones and 1" sensor cameras, especially if the camera in question can't even make full use of the sensor.
 
Portrait mode on the iPhone is way too aggressive. It cant do hair either. Some of the photo looks great until you look at the person's hair then you get this weird blurring artifact in front of the subject on those edges, and the effect is broken.
 
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I think Apple has a real problem on their hands and it's software.... iOS 15 is a disaster for me on my iPhone 12 Pro... the system lags, doesn't read inputs and jerks on any media playback now, Big Sur + Monterey are jokes of an OS (UX + Performance) and you can see this poor software bleed into these camera shots - it's artificial... the Pixel looks more realistic in almost all of the shots here!

The new macbook's look awful with the notch coupled with the locked in software ... definitely will be avoiding.

Shame I've been buying Apple since the Powerbook G4 Titanium but I'm definitely looking at moving off the ecosystem now.
 
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I'm still on 6s and was ready to invest in 13 Pro. Went to the store to test the camera and it's a disappointment for the price, really. Even in Raw the detail is smudgy and over-processed. Great for sharing on social media but not much more. Cheapest phone and a dedicated camera it is, then.
 
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There is too much ai involved in the photos of both iPhone and Pixel. There doesn‘t seem to be a way to disable it.
 
I think it's pretty much in the eye of the beholder. In a couple of those pics, I think the iPhone looks better. Other 1 or 2 pictures posted, I think the Pixel images look nicer.

Both can give us amazing images on a mobile phone. Those days of "crappy cellphone pictures" are largely over.
 
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These things are certainly subjective!

Water image - I prefer the Pixel for its colours

Woods - iPhone definitely. Although the Pixel picked up a lot more detail in the shadows, it just ends up looking fake and nothing like what you see in person, like a lot of night photo modes on cameras. It looks as if a harsh white flash has been used, and a lot of the shadows have that weird purple-ish tint to them that looks like chroma noise, like when you try to brighten the shadows on a jpeg and the dynamic range just isn't there. Just looks flat and unpleasant. iPhone's results have more shadows and a lot less detail on the ground etc, but a much more natural look to them overall like that's what you'd expect to see with your eyes. It's a great example of how the tendency of many cameras (and photographers) to try and pick up every detail as if it's daylight-exposed is not necessarily a good thing. It's a machine's way of thinking rather than an artist's.

Portrait - not a lot in it really. I think I'll give it to the Pixel as the skin tone looks more natural to me (but I've not seen the guy in person so maybe the iPhone is more accurate I don't know) and it's also picked up more of his facial hair detail. But one's taken at a wider angle than the other so it's hard to make a fair comparison. A lot of people may prefer the "popping" rich colours of the iPhone so it's down to the usual personal preferences between natural and vivid.

Shopping centre - the iPhone's colours are much nicer IMO for the same reason I actually preferred the Pixel in the water image - I prefer the warmer look, it looks less "harsh" if you will, rather softer and more inviting.

So it's something of a balance really. I'd maybe give it to the iPhone overall as I think where it wins out it tends to be more pronounced than when the Pixel wins. On the other hand, if you have the time to edit all your photos the Pixel possibly has more detail to play with and you can always boost the colour temperature, darken the shadows etc. Question is, who has time for that? It's good to have photos that look how I want them straight out of the camera.
 
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I'm delighted with the camera in my new iPhone 13 Pro and can see a discernible difference in quality over the iPhone 12 Pro. But for me it is far more than just the camera that motivates me to buy an iPhone over the iPhone copies. No other manufacturer offers the privacy and security of the iPhone, as well as the tight integration of hardware and software produced by the same manufacturer. Purchasing an iPhone over the crowd of second-rate phones is a no-brainer.
Siri is still an absolute moron (and seems to be getting worse) for everything including dictating a text than the Google
Assistant was 5 years ago, which is sad. I forget how helpful they are until I’ve been back on an iPhone for a couple of years now and miss text replies that weren’t horrible.

Also not sure how much I’m buying into iPhone and privacy. It seems that way but who knows? Websites are often not very secure anyway, and then mobile security is kinda moot anyway.
 
Wow front camera of Pixel 6 completely destroys iPhone 13 Pro's.
Photos of Pixel 6 Pro are superior too.I can't believe he said it's "personal preference" when clearly in most examples one is superior to the other!
videos are very close.
overal Pixel 6 Pro wins.
I feel sad now ordering 13 Pro max.
 
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