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Whatever. The picture you showed with great pride of the exhibition from above was about the worst possible example of how phone cameras are great photographic tools. It's exactly the conditions where a phone camera will take a grungy shot with no definition, lousy colour. It's a poor photocopy of what might be visually arresting.

You seem to be on some ego trip trying to prove that it's the photographer, not the camera, and that you are that photographer. If you have the respect for the medium you profess, you'd realise that most of the names on your list cared a great deal for the technical perfection of their work and would not shoot poor quality pictures where they could shoot high quality pictures. That their gear was sometimes inferior to modern cameras was a source of great frustration to them.

As the gallery from above photo is not an image which requires shooting it right away with whatever happened to be in your lazy hands (someone who really care images would carry a more capable camera), it's just a terrible example of the use of an iPhone for photography. You'll probably say, "oh but the girl was just there then in the moment". Even if that's true, it wouldn't be difficult to go back there with a female friend and recreate those circumstances but with a camera capable of capturing the colours better along with some definition.

iPhone pictures are great as small screen thumbnails. Depending on conditions and subject, they are mostly horrible for print. Since you seem to think the worse the camera, the better the picture, there's a whole new world of pinhole cameras and iPhone 3GS cameras open to you.

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The black and white portrait above is a better use of a phone camera as it's shot in better light and the subject is ephemeral. By heavily post-processing the image and converting it to BW, you've effectively masked the poor colours, unpleasant texture and noise of a phone camera. That's a more suitable use of an iPhone camera, for grunge outdoor street portraits than when you try to pretend phone cameras are the right tool for structured art compositions shot in dim interiors where colour plays a central role.

Why are you hijacking this thread to promote yourself? The thread is not about whether it's possible to shoot publishable images on a phone camera. but about the relative merits of camera on an iPhone 13 Pro camera vs a Google Pixel 6. If you have something to say on the subject say your piece.

Showing off that you don't know when to shoot with a small sensor camera and when to shoot with a large sensor camera only shows you for a silly fellow, not an artist.

I think you're wrong.

Some images are timeless regardless of the equipment used to capture them. This isn't to say that technical details of a photograph don't matter, but they take a huge backseat to the actual content of the photograph.

I mean, photography has been around for a long long time... Images from the 60's and 70's that hold up today do so, not for their technical details but, for their actual content.

Nobody cares how you captured a shot; trust me... When sharing your work with non-photographers, no one gives a damn about the technical details of a shot. They simply care whether or not the image appeals to them.
 
Some images are timeless regardless of the equipment used to capture them. This isn't to say that technical details of a photograph don't matter, but they take a huge backseat to the actual content of the photograph.
This is another debate and irrelevant to the content of an iPhone 13 Pro vs Pixel 6 camera comparison thread. If equipment doesn't matter, then you and the other guy, the egoist, have no reason to be on this thread. Please create your thread about "The Camera doesn't matter" and have at it.
 
Based on the first image you showed to show off the iPhone, you clearly don't know which camera to use when. As I said before, this thread is not about egomaniacal, self-centred photographers. It's about the difference between the iPhone 13 and the Pixel 6. You don't have either, so I'm not quite sure why you are posting images and wasting people's time. If you would like to talk about photography generally there are whole forums devoted to the subject or you could start your own thread. Stop hijacking this one.

Please try and relax. You are not the arbiter of which camera someone should use for a particular purpose (purposes you know nothing about). Nor are you the arbiter of what’s proper to post on forums.

Not that you deserve an explanation in light of your continuing personal insults… Whenever someone posts that camera phones are not legitimate cameras (as in the case on this forum thread), I jump in and take issue with reasons why they are. And back my words up with photographs made from various iPhones over the years, the previous one being from an iPhone 4. You may not like them, and that’s fine. And when out of gas you can resort to personal insults - which is also fine, as that says something as well.

In general, I’ve found there are two types of photographers. Those that have work (photos and projects) to share and talk about. And those that have love to talk about camera gear and complain about phone cameras somehow being less legitimate cameras. Sadly, people in that last group rarely have interesting photographs to share. Here’s another one of mine, from around 10 years ago, likely from an iPhone 5 somewhere over California.

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What did henri Cartier bresson once say ?

sacre blue I wish I had zee iPhone !

tbh the iPhone pro looks a lot better to me , plus it’s got iOS which is a BIG plus
 
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What did henri Cartier bresson once say ?

sacre blue I wish I had zee iPhone !

tbh the iPhone pro looks a lot better to me , plus it’s got iOS which is a BIG plus

I suspect Robert Frank would loved to have had an iPhone - or any phone camera. And would have created additional amazing bodies of work.
 
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In general, I’ve found there are two types of photographers. Those that have work (photos and projects) to share and talk about. And those that have love to talk about camera gear and complain about phone cameras somehow being less legitimate cameras.
That's not the topic of this thread. What a fool you are to make assumptions about people and their photography. Create your own thread to argue with yourself about the essence of photography. This is a technical thread.

I'm not sure what relevance your clip art has – everything looks good at 900x600px. Imagine the conceit to think there is something new or wonderful in your banal airplane window shot. What would be relevant would be high quality photos shot on the iPhone 13 Pro and/or the Pixel 6. Better the same scene shot with good craft on both cameras.

Enough thread jacking and self-promotion, no?
 
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That's not the topic of this thread. What a fool you are to make assumptions about people and their photography. Create your own thread to argue with yourself about the essence of photography. This is a technical thread.

I'm not sure what relevance your clip art has – everything looks good at 900x600px. Imagine the conceit to think there is something new or wonderful in your banal airplane window shot. What would be relevant would be high quality photos shot on the iPhone 13 Pro and/or the Pixel 6. Better the same scene shot with good craft on both cameras.

Enough thread jacking and self-promotion, no?

Reread my post: "Not that you deserve an explanation in light of your continuing personal insults… Whenever someone posts that camera phones are not legitimate cameras (as in the case on this forum thread), I jump in and take issue with reasons why they are. And back my words up with photographs made from various iPhones over the years, the previous one being from an iPhone 4. You may not like them, and that’s fine. And when out of gas you resort to personal insults - which is also fine, as that says something as well."

All you have to offer are personal insults. Nothing else of value. You are not the forum police.
 
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I think in the end, Google did an AWESOME job with the camera functionality of the Pixel 6/6 Pro phones. Pity that the overall performance of the phone is still inferior to the iPhone 13 models due to Tensor SoC limitations.
 
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I think in the end, Google did an AWESOME job with the camera functionality of the Pixel 6/6 Pro phones. Pity that the overall performance of the phone is still inferior to the iPhone 13 models due to Tensor SoC limitations.
I've had an iPhone 8+ and currently have an iPhone 11 Pro Max. At no point have I ever felt held back by the processor. The Pixel 6 tests out at about the same processor capability as my iPhone 11 Pro Max. Where do you feel you would notice the difference in power apart from in gaming?

The Tensor SoC doesn't seem to be a barrier to photography. I've done a bit of digging and apparently the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro will work great for everything except gaming, as their CPU/GPU do throttle heavily under sustained load. So gamers should avoid these models. Probably doesn't affect photographers though.
 
I mean, this is just splitting hairs to be honest.

Your choice of phone purchase these days is mostly based on which ecosystem you're invested in; there's a device for everyone, and comparisons like this aren't the reasons people switch phones.

Still nice to see the difference in approach to 'default' post-processing though.
Totally agree. I went to Best Buy to play with the Pixel 6 Pro. Its camera was kind of cool, the color in photos was as pointed out, rather apparent. I did like the extra zoom and its super digital zoom did not suck. Good to have when needed. But then I tried to work with Android and had second thoughts. I am so deep in Apple, Because of the AMAZING AI in the pixel, love what that phone can do with voice-to-text and on-the-fly translation. ger perhaps learning a new operating system is good for your brain, then thought, you're nuts, Apple is intuitive, I use iMessage a lot and oh yeah, the 14 is here next year, and it's sure to have a better optical zoom. So staying with my 13Pro... final thought I had the 12ProMax, not a fan of "bigness,' and always carry an RX100M6 so zoom is not an issue.
 
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This is another debate and irrelevant to the content of an iPhone 13 Pro vs Pixel 6 camera comparison thread. If equipment doesn't matter, then you and the other guy, the egoist, have no reason to be on this thread. Please create your thread about "The Camera doesn't matter" and have at it.
Let's get this straight. I'm a pro photographer and the pixel 6 is a far better camera than the iPhone 13 pro. If you care to view at 100% it's abundantly clear. No competition whatsoever.

When juding resized compressed images on Instagram or forum posts it's a question of one's subjective feelings towards color, style, contrast (and brand influence) but at a pixel level it's objective and the google pixel phones have been better since pixel 2.

As for whether it matters, I think most photographers will agree that they want to have the best camera on them during an opportune moment; however they would also all agree that a good camera doesn't make a good photo. Proper art photographers and the people spending money on prints really doesn't care how technically perfect a photo is.
 
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Samsung, Google and Apple are really the only phones I would look at. I have a Pixel 6 coming in Monday!!
 
For half the photo samples shown I prefer Google's and the other half I prefer Apple's. But I would like to have seen the Samsung Galaxy A52 added to the comparison for a more interesting 3-way pic-off. A neighbor has just purchased an iPhone 13 Pro and demonstrated taking extreme closeup pics 1/4" away from the subjects. One wonders if the other two brands could do the same thing.
 
I think in the end, Google did an AWESOME job with the camera functionality of the Pixel 6/6 Pro phones. Pity that the overall performance of the phone is still inferior to the iPhone 13 models due to Tensor SoC limitations.
Pixel 6 Pro is 6 seconds slower than the iPhone in a real speed test, and this was Google's first try at a custom SoC.

 
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