When it comes to low light you certainly can. I have a 6s and it isn’t worth taking a picture in lower light environments, that’s no longer the case.
However, the general point you’ve made still stands.
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Camera Comparison: iPhone XS Max vs. iPhone X
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However, the general point you’ve made still stands.
Yup your right about the google camera app and pixel 2 using the same method as the og pixel
but third parties do.
http://www.androidbeat.com/2018/02/google-activates-pixel-visual-core-support-third-party-apps/
So much agression.
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From your article
“A November Fonearena interview with Brian Rakowski, VP of Product Management at Google and Tim Knight, head of the Pixel camera team, could have clarified things at this point and put a stop to the mounting confusion. But, confusion persisted nevertheless...”
Guess I wasn’t the only confused
Thanks for the link will read more thought when I have the time.
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And you can clearly see they (intentionaly?) overexposed the X photos. Really bad article.
I don't want professional equipment. Seriously. It's just too much hassle. I just want a good camera in my pocket. And the options available to me shouldn't be "go pro or go home". This is a camera for those of us not interested in investing in pro equipment.
This is no different than anything else in life. Most people are fine buying beer, but my buddy will only brew his own. Most people are content with a car that goes from A to B, some people want something higher end. Some people are fine with a Timex that gives them the time, while some will only wear high end watches. Some people are fine purchasing a TV, some people need it professionally calibrated. Some people are fine with TV speakers while some want that 7.2 sound setup.
Life if full of choices like this. "Here's an entry level widget, but if you're really serious, here's the pro version". Just because you choose to play in the deep end of the pool doesn't mean the shallow end should be removed. Have fun with your fancy equipment. I get it. I had a Nikon with a bunch of lenses earlier in my life (looooong before cell phones were a thing). Now I just want the camera already in my pocket. I'm not printing things for an art exhibition, so I'm good with that. I like photography, but I don't like it to the point of wanting to fool with a dedicated camera. My iPhone usually produces an image that is good enough for my needs.
If you need HUGE red arrows to point out the difference, then there’s really not much difference at all, is there?
Apple seems to have reached a plateau - as far as iPhone camera improvements go.
Apple seems to have reached a plateau - as far as iPhone camera improvements go.
Judging from this thread, only some people need the HUGE red arrows. Many others can see the differences without any effort. So I'd say there's not much difference at all, for some people. For the rest, there is a big difference.
These forums would be so much easier to read if people would learn to distinguish between personal opinions and facts.
This could be an album cover for the next hit emo singer/songwriter: "On his debut album, It's All About Me, Zach Smith sings with raw, searing honesty about the ennui he feels after playing with his newest toys."
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I like the heft of the XS Max. I was comparing it to a Note 9 in a Verizon store over the last weekend. The phones are the same size, but the Note was lighter and felt a little cheaper. I think the heft makes it feel more premium.
Perhaps I am not putting this into words very well.
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The smoothing issue is pretty evident to me. It's very aggressive. I wonder if this can be addressed via software?
Again, MIUI is the feature update for Xiaomi....
The discontinued list from Xiaomi you just posted is clear, Mi1S from 2012.08 is the first discontinued...
MIUI 9 was released in 2017, you can see phones from 2012 support MIUI 9, that's 5 years of support from Xiaomi.
To add, for 200 Dollars, I can upgrade each year for 5 years, meaning i would be on current OS for 5 years with a new battery every year (new specs and so forth) and still have spent less than 1 iPhone... and passing the older phone to a family member they too get a "new phone" every year at no cost.
But again, let's not derail the topic.
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That’s not very nice for a first post after joining the forum 20 min ago.
If it was just software you may have a point, if it’s due to the 8core npu in the a12 your sol.
On the other hand, the Pixel 2 is capable of doing this, all while having an arguably inferior chip set to the A11.
same here. After looking at a lot of examples, i mostly prefer the photos shot with the X. Smart HDR looks o.k. in a few cases (that portrait of Gruber comes to mind), but often makes faces, sky colors and reflections look pretty unnatural and mushy. Seems like you‘re trading „recovered“, unnatural highlights against more control of the camera. I‘m sure you‘ll also get a raw version of the file and/or can use a different camera-app where you can turn that feature off - but it dosn’t look like the camera-hardware itself has changed drastically since the X.
Does anybody know what color-space / dynamic range those photos are shot and displayed in? I mean, in theory, those photos could also display in „real“ HDR using the iphone XS’ 725nits display instead of a photo with the higher dynamic range crushed into a LDR image.
There is a new sensor on the wide lens that should help in low light conditions even with third party apps.
Front-facing camera smoothing is inexcusable, they need to patch it in as a toggle, not the default setting.
I don't have any of these issues with light differences on pictures taken with my iPhone X.
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The A11 is more than capable of the calculations necessary for Smart HDR.
I've had students do this as semester projects almost 10 years ago and with far more limited CPUs. I refuse to believe Apple is so incompetent or lazy to make this work on a much more modern system. This is marketing.
I guess the reason for the new wallpapers on the Xs not available in previous generation models is also due to the limited amount of processing power? Come on guys, most of this is marketing. Some of these features have been done in near real-time ages ago with less powerful processors written in C++ and OpenCV. And besides it's a nice lab exercise for computer science students taking image processing and graphics courses. There's really nothing new there.
You are absolutely right. There are lots of different tastes in this world and this is great and makes our lives richer - no question. And no "taste" is superior to another, they are just different, I also agree. My only point is, that if you are happy with the image quality delivered by your phone because it perfectly fulfills your needs, it's fine to buy a very good mobile phone with a good camera. I just wonder, if the improvements of the latest iPhone are that much bigger that they justify the - from my point of view - unbelievable high price of the device. CPU power is a little bit better, fine. Display quality has increased, great. Camera quality is better, wow. Sorry, these statements sound silly to me. The image quality of my iPhone 8 is really great, when I only watch the picture on the phone. And I went to an Apple store to look at the then new iPhone X and it's image quality. Sorry to say, but it was not any better, at least not that much better convincing me to go to the counter and buy it. And for sure, I will execute the same procedure with the new XS / XS Max. But I am pretty sure, the quality of the images taken with and watched on the new XS / XS Max will not make such a big difference to my "old" iPhone 8.
To put it in other words: When the first iPhone appeared, it was simply mind blowing, a revolution, unthinkable until the incredible moment Steve Jobs pulled it out of his jeans and explained it. And since this moment, there have been made some giant leaps forward in terms of functionality usability and innovation. But: None of these can be compared with the ingenious idea of the invention of the iPhone itself. And I have the very strong impression, that since a couple of years, the degree of innovation and the added value to the customer is decreasing while Apple still manages to increase the prices at the same time. Ridiculous, if you think about it. And from my perception, this always was the beginning of the end of once very successful products.
No question, you can't maintain such a high level of innovation over the years. But the price development of the equipment should at least to some degree reflect this truth, but just the opposite is happening right now. And this spiral will definitely come to an end - sooner or later ...
Again, as I've started multiple times, the Pixel 2 includes a specially designed ISP (image signal processor) for the camera.
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And you know this how?
It's all subjective. For some the thought of replacing a year old phone is absurd. Some do it every year. Some do it multiple times a year. Everyone is different and has different tastes, budgets, priorities, desires, etc.
As for myself, I've always upgraded every other year. Except I did hold on to my 6 Plus for 3 years. This is the first time I've ever contemplated trading in a year old phone. And for me, that's the big stickler. I've always kept my phones and used them as test devices (I'm a developer) or passed them on to whoever was in desperate need of a phone. The thought of trading it in kinda sucks. That means I rented for a year instead of having my phone half paid off. On the other hand, do I really need an X sitting in a drawer for most of the year? No, I don't. I'm not one who sells my old phones, so that argument is out the window. On the flip side, I do enjoy taking photos. I also know I tend to take probably more than the average number of low-light photos. I can also recall times when the sun outside was giving me fits with the images I wanted to get. If these are areas where the new phone would benefit me, why not? I enjoy photography. Not enough to justify buying and carrying around dedicated camera gear. I've done that before and don't miss it. But I do want the best image possible with the only camera I have. And in my opinion, the upgrades to the camera this year are impressive. For me the money isn't a huge factor. I would enjoy the new phone a lot. And I don't really need to hold on to my old phone (I still have my 6 Plus for emergencies). It's tempting.
It really all depends on too many variables. Some have no problem getting the new phone, some do. Some aren't impressed by the camera upgrades, some are. Some are impressed with other things on the new devices, some aren't. There is no right or wrong answer. And everyone is different. Some want the new phone, can afford it, and get it. Some want the new phone, can't afford it, and get it. Some don't want the new phone and will upgrade anyway because their old phone is dying. I think I've seen every combination under the sun on this site. I've learned everyone is free to do as they wish with their money. Some make wise decisions. And some turn out to be very amusing stories here on the site.
Sounds like a new phone might not be for you this year. I'm on the fence, but leaning towards treating myself. Both are acceptable answers.