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dont you think that that was abit stupid sentence? Abit childish?

I think the problem here is more like the way how you lead people to think rather than the non-issue. Where is the point when you think it is abit misleading to say something when there is obviously more behind?

A "stupid sentence" coming from the guy who cannot spell "A BIT" :rolleyes: "Abit" is not a word.

You believe a company that told you that there is no antenna issue and you're just holding it wrong? The company that told you that there isn't a GPU soldering issue on multiple Macbook Pro models? The company that told you that there isn't a display soldering issue on the white macbook? That company? That company that presently claims there is no touch disease?

Just because there currently ->may<- not be much impact doesn't they should get away with bogus PR claims, it is sapphire, just doesn't work like sapphire. If it is due to pressure, why doesn't the 5 pick crack it?

Why believe some Youtuber either monetizing their channel and creating controversy to drive traffic to get ad views and make $?

Not saying Apple should be trusted either, but this is a non-issue. It IS a sapphire lens bottom line, even as the Youtuber admits. There was no guarantee of quality in Apple's materials, just that it is made of sapphire which is it.

Until people have scratches, which hasnt happened as this is the same lens going back to the 6, then it is a non-issue and complaining simply to complain.
 
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Some companies are bundling a camera lens protector along with the screen or back body protector. I got one for free from a shop that sells the screen protectors and body protectors.




 
Honestly, does anyone think that Apple believes that they can say a product has a certain specification when it really doesn't and not understand the effort that would be made to prove them wrong by the entire amateur internet? With all these super experts and sleuths running around smashing away at their keyboards in fury at the utter indignity of it all how have we not solved the Kennedy assassination, the murder of Jon Benet Ramsey and Bigfoot?

Hey look everyone! YouTube Review Guy caught Apple telling a lie!

Sometimes I want to thank Al Gore for helping to bring us the internet and sometimes I want to punch Al Gore in the face for helping to bring us the internet ( aaaaaaannnnddddd cue the people taking issue with idea that Al Gore blah blah blah rage rage rage internet blah blah blah rage rage rage).

In general, Apple's approach is to deny the obvious. I call that lying. Its only when the level of complaining is more widespread, or a lawsuit is started, that the truth comes out.

The use of the descriptor "Sapphire Crystal" denotes a level of quality. More specifically a level of scratch resistance. Watch crystals live up to this quality but not the lens/home button covers on the iphone.

I have heard it suggested that the lens cover needs to be inferior to overcome optical issues with using more pure sapphire crystal. Perhaps that is true, but again Apple is stating "Sapphire Crystal" to denote a level os scratch protection and not a level of optical perfection. And, this does not explain the home button being inferior when it does not need to be optically pure.

Apple will stand behind technicality saying it is Sapphire. That is true...but if you watch the video is it clearly a very poor quality of sapphire that does not live up to consumer expectation.
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But not scratch resistant sapphire. It is like selling lead belt to divers that float on water because they made them porous with air bobbles. Technicly it's lead, but it doesn't perform the function expected of it.

ON THE MONEY!
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Even if we hypothetically accept this test was accurate; and the crystals aren't fracturing from pressing too hard like Apple says (who I tend to believe more than some random guy on Youtube), it is still very scratch resistant. 6 to 7 range contains quartz, what many many watch faces in lower price watches are made of.

It is still perfectly fine to prevent scratches from every day use. After all, when is the last time you rubbed your phone lens against a mohs pick or something that hard?

Lets be real here and real life usage. Most items you set your phone on; glass, wood and plastic (like tables or in your car) are not as hard and wont scratch the lens. That is what the lens is designed to withstand, every day usage, not some arbitrary lab tests. This is again, accepting this test as true which I still dont unless the amount of pressure used was regulated to prevent crystal structure fracturing.

If people had scratches on their camera lenses in mass quantities then this would be anything more than nitpicking. But that's simply not happening at all. And it was never a problem on the 6 or 6S lines which were identical material.

This is a non-issue being made an issue by trolls. If this ia THAT big a deal go buy yourself an exploding Note 7 and see what a real issue is.

You are simply justifying what you got because it does not matter to you. Fanboy speak in my book. I want what I paid for or I want Apple to stop suggesting a level of scratch resistance that does not exist.
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A "stupid sentence" coming from the guy who cannot spell "A BIT" :rolleyes: "Abit" is not a word.



Why believe some Youtuber either monetizing their channel and creating controversy to drive traffic to get ad views and make $?

Not saying Apple should be trusted either, but this is a non-issue. It IS a sapphire lens bottom line, even as the Youtuber admits. There was no guarantee of quality in Apple's materials, just that it is made of sapphire which is it.

Until people have scratches, which hasnt happened as this is the same lens going back to the 6, then it is a non-issue and complaining simply to complain.

Because that You-tuber made a really great case with evidence that is hard to deny. Schiller's one comment with no follow up is simply not substantial enough.
 
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I got two hairline scratches on my camera lens already smh. This wasn't the case with the 6 and 6s.
 
I got two hairline scratches on my camera lens already smh. This wasn't the case with the 6 and 6s.
It is believed there is an anti-reflective coating on the camera to deal with the brightness from the quad-flash. A small scratch in the coating will not affect the camera and the image quality.
 
Some companies are bundling a camera lens protector along with the screen or back body protector. I got one for free from a shop that sells the screen protectors and body protectors.





i wouldn't be surprised if your pictures start looking worse. you're just putting another piece of plastic/glass infront of the lens. same thing with dslr lenses.
 
It is believed there is an anti-reflective coating on the camera to deal with the brightness from the quad-flash. A small scratch in the coating will not affect the camera and the image quality.

Yeah I don't really care for it. It does not affect photos/videos. And plus this phone is traded in as soon as the 8 comes out. Not worth the lottery exchanges for me :).
 
Oh, it'll be named the iPhone 8, of course! :D

Agreed I doubt with the amount of changes and redesign as rumored will make it 7s. 8 is most likely. I hope Apple will get rid of the numbers, they just don't make sense anymore at this point.
 
Some companies are bundling a camera lens protector along with the screen or back body protector. I got one for free from a shop that sells the screen protectors and body protectors.





Looks clean and neat. You can barely see the protector.
 
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