Can I try the new MacBook Pro for like a week? Am interested in the wider color gamut

[Gregintosh]

Traditionally, professionals in the Apple ecosystem was a reference to video and photography pros (hence why those are the 2 out of 3 areas that they offer their own pro software, the other one being audio).

Sure, they can plug in other display, but the whole point of a laptop is to be able to use it to do good work on the go. Which is why a pro will prefer a laptop with a screen that can do what they need it to do.

 

[Miltz]

I have a late 2013 rMBP, but I've been interested in the new one. I'm interested in the wider color gamut.

Is there a way I can try the new one for like a week or something and see.

Go to the Apple Store with your current model and compare the same images side by side. I don't think you need a week to do that. Just make sure both images are AdobeRGB or P3. You'll see a difference. That being said, if you don't get paid to produce content it shouldn't be a selling point.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

It's called a MacBook Pro cause it's for Professionals, who use it for work producing video and images for professional applications. It's not designed to be a $2,500 Facebook and Porn machine, despite so many people using it that way. ;-)

Unfortunately Apple and others can't do that. If they fit Eizo level screens in a laptop there would be following complaints from ignorant members of the public and non-pro reviewers:

- why is the laptop so thick?
- why isn't there super high contrast?
- why isn't it super bright?

A professional monitor doesn't have the look that the public expects.

So to prevent those ignorant comments tech companies have had to support P3 and deep contrast for video consumption in their laptops and mobile devices. If you truly need to support other colour profiles or RAW/LOG formats in a very precise manner then you have no choice but to connect external Eizo or NEC monitors.

 

[gordi]

Yep, wide colour gamuts are not yet supported by web browsers and even some apps like file managers don't display wide gamut profiles properly.

They are until today used by photographers to avoid banding issues because when printing it helps that the gamut was wide as possible in the first place because CMYK has a smaller gamut than RGB.

Now DCI P3 wide gamuts are being used in video to produce vivid images and this is the gamut Apple supports. It's not comparable to Adobe RGB if you want natural delicate skin tones in images. That's why it isn't supported by still image cameras.

Just bear in mind these things:

- The wide gamut only means that you have a wider palette to choose from. Format mean that you can see or use all those colours at the same time because...

- Your eyes will still never be able to see more than 10 million colours if you are a regular trichromat human being.

- Likewise your screen at 4K is only displaying about 7 million pixels.

- And most images only have several thousand different colours.

You keep these points in mind and then you won't need to go mental over "gamuts". Leave that to Pros.

MBP or iPhone will makes your images pop anyway because they have deeper contrast and very bright screens. But this is NOT what you want if you are producing content. Hence true professional screens like Eizo monitors have less contrast and show more natural tonal range.

Doesn't Safari color correct? I'm wondering if it color corrects streaming adobe flash player too..

With the deeper contrast, is the new MacBook Pro not very life like then?

I was comparing the 2015 and 2016 in the store, and the whites in the 2015 seemed to have a pinker tint, skin color looked pinker too, whereas it looked more tan in comparison, on the 2016. I am wondering which one is more accurate.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

My experience - several years ago I purchased an expensive NEC wide-gamut monitor for use with my MB Pro. I don't think I would do that again. 99% of the world is using sRGB. You can have a nice wide-gamut image on your screen, but if you send it to someone else, display it on the web or print it, the extra colors will not show up. Furthermore, if the receiving party is not properly color-managed and assumes your file is sRGB, the colors will not look right.

There may be other reasons to like the MB Pro display, but I'm specifically addressing your interest in the wide color gamut.

 

[gordi]

My experience - several years ago I purchased an expensive NEC wide-gamut monitor for use with my MB Pro. I don't think I would do that again. 99% of the world is using sRGB. You can have a nice wide-gamut image on your screen, but if you send it to someone else, display it on the web or print it, the extra colors will not show up. Furthermore, if the receiving party is not properly color-managed and assumes your file is sRGB, the colors will not look right.

There may be other reasons to like the MB Pro display, but I'm specifically addressing your interest in the wide color gamut.

What are the reasons to like and dislike the display? Anybody find the contrast to be too much? I'm guessing that the flux app would be oversaturated on it.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Doesn't Safari color correct?

Safari only supports sRGB. Chrome has some beta support for AdobeRGB but it's pointless.

"With the deeper contrast, is the new MacBook Pro not very life like then?"

No because in real life you don't see deep or true blacks, unless you were looking at a material covered in Vanta or staring at a black hole.

"I was comparing the 2015 and 2016 in the store, and the whites in the 2015 seemed to have a pinker tint, skin color looked pinker too, whereas it looked more tan in comparison, on the 2016. I am wondering which one is more accurate."

You want to know if the screen is colour accurate you have to compare the digital image to the physical object placed directly under a pure white light. If it isn't accurate you can use a calibrating for device, but those work best on professional desktop monitors.

There were a few Dell Precision and Sony AW series laptops that supported true professional screens for photography and video. Since the late 90s Apple has promoted their pro laptops for cutting video and always recommends using a pro desktop monitor for advanced work.