can i upgrade?

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  1. orioncarp24, Aug 19, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2012

    orioncarp24 macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
    ok im new to this site im not sure if im doing this right but i need to know if it is possible to upgrade the processor in my Late 2009 mac mini because i upgraded the ram from 2gb to 4gb (witch is max) and it is running terribly slow i open activity monitor and i have plenty of free ram but my processor is like 80% used so if i could just upgrade it or over clock it somehow please let me know, heres my specs

    Mac mini
    Late 2009
    Processor 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    Memory 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400 256 MB
    Serial Number YM9375FL9G5
    Software OS X 10.8 (12A269)

    i really need help on this
  2. miles01110 macrumors Core


    Jul 24, 2006
    The Ivory Tower (I'm not coming down)
    It's soldered to the logic board, so you can't upgrade it.
  3. Ifti macrumors 68000

    Dec 14, 2010
    All you can really upgrade is the HDD and RAM. All other components are physically soldered onto the main board. To replace these you will need to replace the entire man board, in which case it'll be more cost effective to replace the mac mini itself!
  4. orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
  5. Ifti macrumors 68000

    Dec 14, 2010
    Well then try following the guide - good luck!
    One small wrong move and your mini will be dead though!

    Have you looked into what is keeping the CPU busy in the first instance?
  6. orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
  7. kc2ine macrumors member

    Aug 15, 2012
    if your processor is used 80% most of the time something is wrong and you better re-install your system....
  8. paulrbeers macrumors 68040

    Dec 17, 2009
    The 2006-2008 had boards that the CPU could be swapped on, but with 2009 forward, they have been soldered to the motherboard.

    You can not swap your processor on a 2009.

    Edit: You really shouldn't put your personal email or phone number on forums. There are spammers who look for these sorts of things just to add you to their lists.....
  9. surroundfan macrumors 6502

    Nov 22, 2005
    Melbourne, Australia
    Hardware-wise, there are two ways to speed up your mini:

    1) upgrade the RAM to 8GB (the max for all 2009 and 2010 minis)
    2) install an SSD (the Samsung 830 works well with the Nvidia chipset).

    But first, click 'All Processes' in Activity Monitor and sort by CPU % to see what's taking up your CPU cycles...

    (And I second the recommendation about not posting personal details...)
  10. GermanyChris macrumors 601


    Jul 3, 2011
    if he's using 80% cpu those thing won't really help
  11. LeandrodaFL macrumors 6502a


    Apr 6, 2011
    I agree

    btw, spammers are the least of your worries. Con Artists also check this
  12. kc2ine macrumors member

    Aug 15, 2012
  13. orioncarp24, Aug 19, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2012

    orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
    is there any kind of scan i can run or something to find out whats really causing it or if its an error or a virus
  14. kc2ine macrumors member

    Aug 15, 2012
    if this is the new mac mini eating virus you're out of luck...

    just kidding, try AVG scanner
  15. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    There is no need to reinstall the OS. Just diagnose what's using CPU.
    You don't have a virus. Macs are not immune to malware, but no true viruses exist in the wild that can run on Mac OS X, and there never have been any since it was released over 10 years ago. The only malware in the wild that can affect Mac OS X is a handful of trojans, which can be easily avoided by practicing safe computing (see below). Also, Mac OS X 10.6 and later versions have anti-malware protection built in, further reducing the need for 3rd party antivirus apps.
    1. Make sure your built-in Mac firewall is enabled in System Preferences > Security > Firewall

    2. Uncheck "Open "safe" files after downloading" in Safari > Preferences > General

    3. Disable Java in your browser (Safari, Chrome, Firefox). This will protect you from malware that exploits Java in your browser, including the recent Flashback trojan. Leave Java disabled until you visit a trusted site that requires it, then re-enable only for the duration of your visit to that site. (This is not to be confused with JavaScript, which you should leave enabled.)

    4. Change your DNS servers to OpenDNS servers by reading this.

    5. Be careful to only install software from trusted, reputable sites. Never install pirated software. If you're not sure about an app, ask in this forum before installing.

    6. Never let someone else have access to install anything on your Mac.

    7. Don't open files that you receive from unknown or untrusted sources.

    8. For added security, make sure all network, email, financial and other important passwords are long and complex, including upper and lower case letters, numbers and special characters.

    9. Always keep your Mac and application software updated. Use Software Update for your Mac software. For other software, it's safer to get updates from the developer's site or from the menu item "Check for updates", rather than installing from any notification window that pops up while you're surfing the web.
    That's all you need to do to keep your Mac completely free of any Mac OS X malware that has ever been released into the wild. While you may elect to use it, 3rd party antivirus software is not required to keep your Mac malware-free.

    If you still want to run antivirus for some reason, ClamXav (which is free) is one of the best choices, since it isn't a resource hog, detects both Mac and Windows malware and doesn't run with elevated privileges.

    To diagnose your high CPU usage:
    1. Launch Activity Monitor
    2. Change "My Processes" at the top to "All Processes"
    3. Click on the CPU column heading once or twice, so the arrow points downward (highest values on top).
    4. Click on the System Memory tab at the bottom.
    5. Take a screen shot of the entire Activity Monitor window, then scroll down to see the rest of the list, take another screen shot
    6. Post your screenshots.
  16. Tigerman82 macrumors regular

    Jul 27, 2010
    I just wanted to let you know that I upgraded my Early 2009 Mac Mini (4Gb
    -> 8Gb, stock 5400rpm HDD -> Crucial M4 SSD, Snow Leopard -> Mountain Lion) and performance difference is amazing. Mini boots ML in less than 30 seconds and applications open almost instantly.

    I think you should really get an SSD. Moreover, I've heard that a clean install of Mountain Lion can speed things up as it seems that people with the exact same computer are getting different kinds of performance with Mountain Lion.
  17. orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
    some times its worse like if im watching a video with flash and sometimes its better now its kinda in between

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  18. comatory macrumors 6502a


    Apr 10, 2012
    Flash video causes a lot of CPU usage,especially on old processors like Core2Duo.
    Look for a Safari plugin called click-to-flash, it will "convert" flash content into html5 which will work way better for you.

    Up the RAM to 8gigs, install SSD, reinstall OS (recover your app and user data via Setup Assistant during the installation process,requires Timemachine backup).

    Report back.

    P.S.: Search youtube for how to video for opening Mac mini chassis,then open the mini and use a can of compressed air to blow away all the dust.
  19. orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
    apple says 4 gigs is the max ram for late 2009 mac mini
  20. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    That's normal, as Flash is notorious for consuming system resources. For Flash-related issues:
    • Find your Flash version and make sure it's the latest version available. Never install or update Flash from a pop-up on a website. Always go to Adobe's site to get Flash or updates.
    • Install ClickToFlash (Safari), Flashblock (Firefox) or FlashBlock (Chrome) to control which Flash content plays on websites.
    • Try using the YouTube HTML5 Video Player to watch YouTube videos, when available. (May impact fullscreen viewing. See link for details.) Some have reported better performance with HTML5, while some have reported worse. Try it and find out what works best for you.

    It can use 8GB. You can find specs on all Apple products, including maximum RAM:
  21. philipma1957 macrumors 603


    Apr 13, 2010
    Howell, New Jersey
    apple is wrong machine handles 8gb
  22. orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
    where can i get the fastest ram for the cheapest i guess i need 8gb
  23. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    To determine if you can benefit from more RAM, launch Activity Monitor and click the System Memory tab at the bottom to check your page outs. Page outs are cumulative since your last restart, so the best way to check is to restart your computer and track page outs under your normal workload (the apps, browser pages and documents you normally would have open). If your page outs are significant (say 1GB or more) under normal use, you may benefit from more RAM. If your page outs are zero or very low during normal use, you probably won't see any performance improvement from adding RAM.

    Mac OS X: Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor
  24. orioncarp24 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 19, 2012
    what would give me better performance one(1) 8gb stick or two(2) 4gb sticks of RAM
  25. WesCole macrumors 6502a

    Jul 1, 2010
    I would get 2 x 4GB sticks. Also, if you really want a noticeable boost in everyday performance, upgrade to a is really amazing at how much faster normal tasks (like opening programs) are with an SSD.

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