And "yet" you still ask the same questions here as you did in the other thread like what the heck is quick reply? Can you not learn or what?
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And "yet" you still ask the same questions here as you did in the other thread like what the heck is quick reply? Can you not learn or what?
For one thing, the existing thread has a lot of these answers, so you wouldn't have to retype out all of your questions and justifications. You could have simply bumped the thread and asked if anything had changed. It also would have saved the time of all the people who are answering you this time assuming that you hadn't already received the same answers before.
azhava
macrumors 65816
And the answer is still 'no'. And I'm willing to bet it will still be 'no' next month. And next year, and the year after that.
I can't see Apple intentionally crippling any of the security measures behind Apple Pay. Somebody gets ahold of your phone, registers their thumb print with TouchID and goes on a spending spree with your cards. A few instances like that would cause huge negative press, just like the idiot celebrities who got their nudie pictures swiped because they used weak passwords - yet Apple took the hit in the media, not the lame-brained idiots who were really at fault.
Go to Passbook app. Your Apple Pay credit card is at the top. Open the Passbook app to use Apple Pay without having your phone locked. But you're still using your fingerprint to use Apple Pay. Am I missing something here? Your sentences are hard to decipher.
Cyberguycpt
macrumors 65816
Yes, thanks, but that requires me to use a passcode on my lock screen.
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Waste everybody's time that they chose to waste, yup.
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thread offender..something tells me you take these forums too seriously.
Newtons Apple
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For some reason Apple people seem threatened by people who do not wish to conform. I have always had trouble getting the finger ID to work but gave up complaining here as the fan boys always attack!
bunnicula
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I had trouble with it in the early days with my 5s. After a few months and some re-entering of fingerprints, it was smooth sailing. Have had no issues with 6+.
What were you hoping to achieve by "complaining"? I'm differentiating that from "politely asking for help"
One other thought; starting a comment by casting aspersions at a group isn't really setting the stage for helpful friendly responses.
Newtons Apple
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It may not be helpful but it is the truth!🙄
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No doubt my 6 works better than the 5S. I even returned my 6 for another. My thumb is entered three times and still will misfire at least 1 out of 5 times. Funny, both my iPad Air 2 units will work maybe 9 out of 10 times. So I use it on my iPads as I do leave them laying around while the iPhone NEVER leaves my side.
Yes it is true that insulting a group of people will generally not result in helpful responses from those very people. 🙄
It's also true that there are individuals who get their identity tied up with their choice of brand and can't tolerate any negative comments. Just as it is true that there are some individuals who stupidly make sweeping negative generalizations based on the actions of some individuals and then expect anything helpful.
Odd that you're seeing such a difference in behavior between the Air2 and iphone6. You were right to try getting the iphone6 replaced as that behavior suggested faulty hardware. Have you done the training bit where you go into Settings->TouchID&Passcode and keep applying your finger/thumb? Not by adding a finger, but just at the setting screen touch you finger and see which of the fingerprints gets highlighted indicating a successful read. It's claimed that doing this a few times at different edges/angles helps fill in gaps and enhance the reliability.
My experience with TouchID on the 5S and 6 has been quite solid. Most of the time any failure is directly my fault in terms of not really having my thumb on the home button. I can't recall enough instances of it not working to estimate a success/failure ratio. That doesn't mean others don't have an issue, but is merely an example of one person for whom it works well.
It's also true that there are individuals who get their identity tied up with their choice of brand and can't tolerate any negative comments. Just as it is true that there are some individuals who stupidly make sweeping negative generalizations based on the actions of some individuals and then expect anything helpful.
Odd that you're seeing such a difference in behavior between the Air2 and iphone6. You were right to try getting the iphone6 replaced as that behavior suggested faulty hardware. Have you done the training bit where you go into Settings->TouchID&Passcode and keep applying your finger/thumb? Not by adding a finger, but just at the setting screen touch you finger and see which of the fingerprints gets highlighted indicating a successful read. It's claimed that doing this a few times at different edges/angles helps fill in gaps and enhance the reliability.
My experience with TouchID on the 5S and 6 has been quite solid. Most of the time any failure is directly my fault in terms of not really having my thumb on the home button. I can't recall enough instances of it not working to estimate a success/failure ratio. That doesn't mean others don't have an issue, but is merely an example of one person for whom it works well.
Newtons Apple
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We agree and I will try to stop my "sweeping negative generalizations" as I know it is not productive here. Just loose it sometimes, but also realize tht this is the iPhone forum and I like it very much.
bunnicula
macrumors 68040
It's your thumb, then.
Not to sound all Jobsian, but that's really the problem.
Do you do a lot of work with your hands and/or do you get very dry hands? Do you wash them very often due to your job and/or do you tend to have sweaty palms?
Any of these could make Touch ID harder to use with consistent success. I know that when my 5s flaked out early on after I bought it, I'd traveled from NC to NorCal and the temperature change and dryness of the air, coupled with the fact that I'm a frequent hand washer and the soap in the hotel was quite drying factored into the issue. I nearly returned my 5s because of it, but after reading here and trying the trick where you enter the same finger a few times under differing conditions (dry, damp after a hand washing, etc) the 5s straightened right up and I never had problems with it after that.
I'm convinced that the 6/6+ Touch ID is better because I've not even had to do that an I've traveled since I got my phone back in September. I spend a week in San Francisco in October. No Touch ID changes needed.
ucfgrad93
macrumors Core
Agreed. Sorry ,OP, but I don't see Apple changing how Apple Pay works to the way you want it. Time to accept it and move on.
Newtons Apple
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I work about 50% of the time in my office and the rest in the field visiting customers. Hands are really softer and less worn that any time in my life. I wash my hands after eating or if they get dirty from a fight with the copy machine. I guess they could be dry from washing. I have even licked my thumb to moisten when it got stubborn. I can not guess the number of times that i have entered and re-entered BOTH thumbs under multiple fingers, just as suggested.
If there's a large variance on your particular fingers over the course of a day, take a print when your thumb is dry from washing then again of the same thumb when it has some oil on it.
Some people find success taking a winter print when their hands are more dry then another print of the same finger in a different season when it's less dry. Just don't delete the other print and it'll work year round.
Newtons Apple
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You know, that is a great idea. I will give that a shot as I would really like to use this. Even my friends all work well enough where they all use the finger ID. I will do what you suggest and post the results, Sir.
bunnicula
macrumors 68040
Good luck! It really is convenient if you can get it to work. I'd do several prints of the same finger at various times of day/wet/dry/etc.
Newtons Apple
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Will do. I erased all my thumb entires except one and have re-entered my thumb again after a lengthy hand washing. When they get dry from being out and about, I will do my thumb again. She is doing home made tacos tonight, I am usually a mess afterwards and usually go wash the hands before touching my phone. I will just rub them on my pants and shirt and do another thumb session.
Yes, good luck.
As I'm finding apps starting to incorporate TouchID it's becoming even more handy. 1Password, Discover Mobile, and Amazon are three I use regularly so far.
bunnicula
macrumors 68040
I got an iPhone 6 on Tuesday and I've used Apple Pay three times since then (I didn't go hunting for a place to use it, but it's worked out that three places I was going to anyway had the tech). Apple Pay is slick as snot and holding my finger on the Touch ID sensor only takes about 1 second. In fact, it seems Touch ID authorizes Apple Pay transactions a little bit faster than Touch ID unlocks my phone.
I also love that, even when I use my credit card normally (it is swiped by the merchant), I INSTANTLY get a notification of the purchase (merchant and amount) on my iPhone! AWESOME!
I was skeptical that I'd find Apple Pay useful. But it's incredibly useful because it, combined with Passbook, allows me to track all of my purchases AS they happen. Instantly! It will make reconciling my purchases with my statement a WHOLE lot easier!
Mark
I also love that, even when I use my credit card normally (it is swiped by the merchant), I INSTANTLY get a notification of the purchase (merchant and amount) on my iPhone! AWESOME!
I was skeptical that I'd find Apple Pay useful. But it's incredibly useful because it, combined with Passbook, allows me to track all of my purchases AS they happen. Instantly! It will make reconciling my purchases with my statement a WHOLE lot easier!
Mark